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'WIRE' LAW FAILED LOST GI: 10-HOUR DELAY AS FEDS SOUGHT TAP TO TRACK JIMENEZ CAPTORS IN IRAQ
New York Post ^ | October 15, 2007 | CHARLES HURT, Bureau Chief

Posted on 07/11/2008 8:31:58 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul

'WIRE' LAW FAILED LOST GI

10-HOUR DELAY AS FEDS SOUGHT TAP TO TRACK JIMENEZ CAPTORS IN IRAQ
By CHARLES HURT, Bureau Chief

October 15, 2007



WASHINGTON - U.S. intelligence officials got mired for nearly 10 hours seeking approval to use wiretaps against al Qaeda terrorists suspected of kidnapping Queens soldier Alex Jimenez in Iraq earlier this year, The Post has learned.

This week, Congress plans to vote on a bill that leaves in place the legal hurdles in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act - problems that were highlighted during the May search for a group of kidnapped U.S. soldiers.

A search to rescue the men was quickly launched. But it soon ground to a halt as lawyers - obeying strict U.S. laws about surveillance - cobbled together the legal grounds for wiretapping the suspected kidnappers.

For an excruciating nine hours and 38 minutes, searchers in Iraq waited as U.S. lawyers discussed legal issues and hammered out the "probable cause" necessary for the attorney general to grant such "emergency" permission.

Finally, approval was granted and, at 7:38 that night, surveillance began.

"The intelligence community was forced to abandon our soldiers because of the law," a senior congressional staffer with access to the classified case told The Post.

"How many lawyers does it take to rescue our soldiers?" he asked. "It should be zero."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alexjimenez; congress; democrats; elections; fisa; iraq; islam; mohammedanism; soldier; terrorism; treason; wiretap; wot
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To: mware

The next time the Democrats wring their hands in glee as they announce some “milestone” casualty number from the war in Iraq, they can take special delight in knowing they helped push it along.


161 posted on 07/12/2008 10:48:36 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: FocusNexus

Iraq cellphone service is provided through a network built by Orascom (Egypt), MTC Atheer (Kuwait), and Wataniya (Kuwait). That’s it.

Why would an inter-Iraq or even a Middle Eastern regional call need to transit a U.S. switch? The networks of all three companies are strictly Middle East and Northern African regional.

It is nearly preposterous that calls on these networks “go through the U.S.” for local or regional calling.


162 posted on 07/13/2008 7:14:31 AM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
I can’t post what I think about the Democrats and Hate America “peace groups” that rail about “illegal surveillence” with about being banned for life.:

But what we SHOULD do is FAX and email this article to every dimRat in DC and simply say:

Remember, every time you look in the mirror - for the rest of your life - that you see an accomplice to murder. The blood of these brave soldiers is on your head, traitor." - or something similar.

It's the least we can do, in their memory and for our troops still in harms way.

163 posted on 07/13/2008 8:53:42 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: Doctor Raoul
We need to make sure that up and coming republicans like Allen West, running for Congress *(Florida) are elected and get into the pipeline for the future.

He got into trouble for scaring a terrorist into giving up information that saved the lives of his men - and he said he'd do the same thing again in the same circumstances.

THIS is the caliber of men we need in Washington.

Wanna get a shot of 'feel good' to set up the rest of your day? Watch and bookmark this clip --- and let's make sure THIS MAN gets elected...THIS man would make a great president one day...

No matter what state you live in, contribute to Allen West's campaign - for the future of all of us.

(Live link next post)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNcQD_vA-X8

(I'm a 'typical white Bible clinging gun toting gramma)

164 posted on 07/13/2008 9:07:07 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: Doctor Raoul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNcQD_vA-X8

He covers every point - he has the background...he has the guts.

Let’s make sure he gets in the pipeline - he’d make an incredible President one day -

also, read what he did for his men in IRaq - regardless of the consequences to himself.


165 posted on 07/13/2008 9:10:09 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: Alter Kaker
Somebody obviously did foul up here, but I've seen no indication it was Congress.

So Congress had no hand in putting these FISA laws in place? hmmmmmmmmm

Seems to be some folk in here today carrying water for Congress

166 posted on 07/13/2008 9:33:27 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Democrats and Terrorists are birds of the same feather. They watch out for each other.


167 posted on 07/13/2008 9:45:35 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: mware
Hey Doc, don't know if you have watch BBC today, but they are going to have Christopher HItchens on tonight. He volunteered to be water boarded. They are going to show it on BBC News (News Night Comcast 114 BBC))tonight I believe at 6PM (EST)

You don't have to wait for the BBC broadcast.The video is available online at Vanity Fair here.

Hitch's VF column about it, "Believe Me, It's Torture", is is HERE.

168 posted on 07/13/2008 9:50:23 AM PDT by leilani
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To: maine-iac7
So Congress had no hand in putting these FISA laws in place? hmmmmmmmmm

Of course Congress wrote FISA. But FISA doesn't apply to Iraq and never has. That's pretty much the end of the story.

169 posted on 07/13/2008 10:03:54 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Well, wait a minute Doc, why haven't the President's sponsors written an ‘armed forces under duress’ exemption into the bill? There was never any doubt of getting the thing passed again, even Barry willfully tossed his candidacy into the crapper on FISA!
170 posted on 07/13/2008 11:21:52 AM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: AU72
"Democrats have blood on their hands."

"That is the horror of it: That in 1995 the standard/text high school history books will not say that America in the 1960s was ruled and effectively gutted by a gang of cheap thugs who also happened, for reasons of political necessity, to be Mass Murderers. The history books will not say that Lyndon Johnson was more vicious than Mussolini and more stupid than Hitler. They will not say that Robert McNamara's hands were so bloody that after five years he forgot what blood smelled like..." -- HST

171 posted on 07/13/2008 11:30:19 AM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Doctor Raoul
I can’t post what I think about the Democrats and Hate America “peace groups” that rail about “illegal surveillence” with about being banned for life.

Nether can I

172 posted on 07/13/2008 12:21:40 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
I can’t post what I think about the Democrats and Hate America “peace groups” that rail about “illegal surveillence” with about being banned for life.

Nether can I

173 posted on 07/13/2008 12:21:48 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: griswold3

Exactalactly...democrats serve as AQ’s ground op’s in America. Part that is so tragic is that the useful idiots think they are serving the nation. War breaks out within our borders, do them as the enemy.


174 posted on 07/13/2008 4:02:02 PM PDT by Issaquahking ("What did you do for America today?")
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To: Charlespg

Nor me.


175 posted on 07/13/2008 4:03:29 PM PDT by sport
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To: maine-iac7

I wish he was in my district so that I could vote for him.


176 posted on 07/13/2008 4:10:03 PM PDT by sport
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To: Alter Kaker

Iraq is foreign. Therefore it is foreign intelligence, and under the rhelm of the US Military and the CIA. They don’t need approval to wiretap overseas, they can and should just do it in this case, to hell with what some legal weenie says.


177 posted on 07/13/2008 5:54:06 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Doctor Raoul

this makes me furious


178 posted on 07/13/2008 6:28:53 PM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: Thunder90
Shakespeare did say, “First kill all the Jags...”
179 posted on 07/13/2008 8:10:00 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Fire the CIA and hire the Free Clinic, someone who knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

> For an excruciating nine hours and 38 minutes, searchers in Iraq waited as U.S. lawyers discussed legal issues and hammered out the “probable cause” necessary for the attorney general to grant such “emergency” permission.

A criminal state of affairs that must be rectified without delay.

Not that doing so will do any good for the families that grieve tonite.

I am so angry I could spit.


180 posted on 07/13/2008 11:53:46 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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