Posted on 07/09/2008 10:07:48 PM PDT by kristinn
The WP howling for truth is about as sincere as Mugabe professing love for white farmers.
Oh, you forgot DemocRATS can lie and not get challenged by MSM.
The NY Times didn't get the memo. Neither did the Washington Post, the Atlanta Journal Constitution, the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the LA Times, nor any of the rest of the left-wing print media. You can add Reuters' and the AP to that list as well.
That snopes pic shows Kerry actually and verifiably sitting behind Fonda at a rally but they link to another fabricated pic of Fonda and Kerry at the same podium. Which pic appeared on FR?
The Compost and little miss investigator...what a pile.
Article:
The New York Times covered the Valley Forge in 1970:
VALLEY FORGE, Pa., Sept. 7 Chanting "What do you want?" and answering "Peace now," more than 100 veterans of the war in Vietnam arrived here today after a four-day march and led 1,500 other people in demanding an immediate American military withdrawal from South Vietnam.
The marchers, with weary muscles and blistered feet, formed a battle skirmish line in front of the Washington Memorial Chapel at the state park here and walked slowly on the wide expanse of the park's rolling grand parade ground. Their chants were answered by a growing chorus from the crowd below shouting "Stop the war, stop the war."
The marchers carried with them several black body bags that counted in white lettering outside the 43,419 men killed in the war.
Then, as the veterans converged on the rally site, they and the audience joined in the chant "All we are saying is give peace a chance."
The rally, which was organized by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, a Manhattan-based group, ended an 84-mile march that began early Friday morning outside Morristown, N.J. Along the route, the marchers staged simulated battle incidents that portrayed alleged American brutality and war atrocities in Vietnam.
Although other veterans were in the crowd this afternoon, most of the audience that sprawled on the freshly mowed grass were young persons.
Earlier, as the column moved into the park after marching under a bright sun from its campsite north of here, a small group of veterans supporting American military policy in Vietnam established a counter-demonstration across the street from the chapel. As the line of marchers moved past, the opposing veterans exchanged insults.
David MacQueen, a 48-year-old member of the Veterans of Foreign Wars who said he won eight battle stars in the South Pacific in World War II, held a sign that said "Only the mentally depraved want peace at any price."
Another supporter of the war, carrying a Confederate flag, shouted "traitor" and "coward" as the marchers went by.
Among the speakers at the rally were Representative Allard K. Lowenstein, Democrat of Nassau County; Donald Sutherland, the actor; Jane Fonda, the actress; Mark Lane, the civil rights and antiwar lawyer and Charles Bevel, a leader of a black group from Baltimore, which is marching to the United Nations to protest alleged American genocide in South Vietnam.
The rally ended when the marchers smashed the toy sub-machine guns they had carried for the last four days.
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Now they have Veterans Against the Iraq War. And, one paragraph jumped at me:
Until and unless the current U.S. Administration provides evidence which clearly demonstrates that Iraq or any other nation poses a clear, direct and immediate danger to our country, we oppose all of this Administration's pre-emptive and unilateral military activities in Iraq. Furthermore, we cannot support any war that is initiated without a formal Declaration of War by Congress, as our Constitution requires.
Excuse me - but didn't Congress do just that?
Oh, here's a photo of a march by VAIW I found.
Can someone please tell me what kind of flag they are flying in the foreground? So many people trying to bastardize Old Glory, it makes me sick.
Ironically, historians have spent a lot of effort to uncover the identities of the writers over time, but the anonymity was instrumental to the free and fair debate of ideas---apart from the personalities.
Author | Notes | |
---|---|---|
A.B. | Francis Hopkinson | Federalist.[1] |
Agrippa | James Winthrop[2] | Eighteen essays appeared under this name in the Massachusetts Gazette between November 23, 1787 and February 5, 1788.[3] |
Alfredus | Samuel Tenney | Federalist.[4] |
Americanus | John Stevens, Jr.[5] | |
Aristedes | Alexander Contee Hanson | Federalist.[6] |
Aristocrotis | William Petrikin | Anti-Federalist.[7] |
An Assemblyman | William Findley | |
Brutus | Robert Yates[8] | Anti-Federalist. After Marcus Junius Brutus. |
Caesar | Alexander Hamilton? | |
Candidus | Benjamin Austin[9] | |
Cato | George Clinton[10] | Anti-Federalist. |
Centinel | Samuel Bryan | Alternately, the author possibly was George Bryan.[11] |
Cincinnatus | Arthur Lee | After Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus. Six essays addressed to James Wilson appeared under this name in the New York Journal beginning November 1, 1787.[12] |
A Citizen of America | Noah Webster | |
A Citizen of New Haven | Roger Sherman | |
A Columbian Patriot | Mercy Warren[13] | |
A Countryman | Roger Sherman | |
A Country Federalist | James Kent | |
Crito | Stephen Hopkins | |
Examiner | Charles McKnight | |
Federal Farmer | Anti-Federalist. The Federal Farmer letters are frequently attributed to Richard Henry Lee, but modern scholarship has challenged Lee's authorship.[14] | |
Foreign Spectator | Nicholas Collin[15] | |
Genuine Information | Luther Martin | |
Harrington | Benjamin Rush | |
Helvidius Priscus | James Warren[16] | |
An Independent Freeholder | Alexander White | |
John DeWitt | ||
A Landholder | Oliver Ellsworth | Thirteen essays, some of the most widely circulated commentary on the proposed Constitution, appeared under this name, with the first publication coming in the Hartford papers. The essays were certainly written by one of the Connecticut delegates to the Convention, and Ellsworth is the only likely possibility.[17] |
Marcus | James Iredell | |
Margery | George Bryan | |
An Officer of the Late Continental Army | William Findley[18] | |
A Pennsylvania Farmer | John Dickinson | |
Philadelphiensis | Benjamin Workman | |
Philo-Publius | William Duer | |
Phocion | Alexander Hamilton | |
A Plain Dealer | Spencer Roane[19] | |
A Plebian | Melancton Smith | |
Publius | Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, John Jay | After Publius Valerius Publicola. Under this name the three men wrote the 85 Federalist Papers. Hamilton had already used the name in 1778., |
A Republican Federalist | James Warren[20] | |
Rough Hewer | Abraham Yates | |
Senex | Patrick Henry? | Published an article in the Virginia Independent Chronicle, August 15, 1787, which was reprinted in four states. James McClurg wrote that the author was "supposed by some to be Mr. H---y."[21] |
The State Soldier | St. George Tucker | |
Sydney | Robert Yates[22] | |
Timoleon | After Timoleon of Corinth. | |
Tullius | George Turner? |
Dr. Allen seems to have a particular dislike for Free Republic, doesn’t she?
Byron York has some thoughts up here at The Corner on this article and topic:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MGViNmY5MTIxYjA5ZWI0NGZiZjVkYjU0OWNiOTg3Zjg=
Where was she when calumny was being exercise with great glee against Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas?
As ye sow... so ye shall reap
What's good for a goose is sauce for a gander
Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones
etc.
Exactly. #108.
I refuse to read this. Under the law and constitution, I have the right of free speech. I intend to keep it that way.
In point of fact, the Left constantly and consistently and intentionally lies about America, conservatives, and Republicans - in fact, anyone who disagrees with them.
We need more and freer political discourse in this country, not less. People who appoint themselves the arbiters of free speech are a curse on this nation.
Including POTUS candidates like Barack Hussein Obama?
The article was full of calumnious facts...
Danielle Allen , isn’t a match for Free Republic, we will be here long, long afer Obama is history...which should be in November.
How about going after phony soldiers who claim to have served in Vietnam or Iraq but did not yet they slur our troops’ morale with lies about witnessing and participating in “war crimes”?
Nope, the Left is only to happy to smear those who out such frauds.
And then there are the phony journalists. Code Pink is now manufacturing their own “press passes” to try to infiltrate McCain’s political speeches and cause disruption.
How about investigating phony “Reverends”?
I think you've summed it up best.
Allen probably has bad dreams about being chased by those dreaded right-wing Freepers. Obviously she (and her publishers) seethe about us during daylight hours.
LOLOL!
You own it by the act of creation. When Andy Warhol copied photos of flowers out of a science textbook, he was sued for copyright violation and paid.
The silkscreened paintings and reproductions of them (e.g.postcards) did not magically transfer to the company that owned the stock photo of the original unmanipulated photo.
Snopes may have a “newsworthy” fair use claim to show the photos (that was the claim a judge asserted when he permitted a pornographer to sell copies of a stolen videotape from Pamela Lee’s house). The judge’s excuse was that the trial had MADE them newsworthy.
If Snopes HAS a fair use, then so would FR. Only FR was hounded by Corbis and the photographer. Jane Fonda condemned those who’d try to “smear” Kerry with that original Corbis color photo as well.
All animals are equal. Some are more equal than others. FR never HOSTED any of the discussed photos. The images all resided on other servers whether they be Corbis’, AP’s, photobucket’s, etc. etc. Snopes HOSTS those illicit photos on their own servers. They made copies of the files and have them available for download display in their HTML from their servers and even as it has been shown disallow hotlinking to their hosting of the images.
So why is it “newsworthy” to have them on Snopes but not newsworthy for FR to also show them in a discussion of the content?
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