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Is There Legitimate Doubt About Obama's Eligibility to be President?
The Corner on National Review Online ^ | 7/6/2008 | Andy McCarthy

Posted on 07/06/2008 10:47:57 AM PDT by Aria

I had not caught up until today with this apparent controversy over whether the Hawaii birth certificate proffered by Obama's campaign is a forgery and whether there are legitimate questions about whether he was born in the United States — if he wasn't, he almost certainly would not be qualified under the Constitution and relevant immigration statutes to be president. Our Jim Geraghty seemed to pooh-pooh the birth certificate controversy about a week ago, but according to the above cited report (at a site called DougRoss@Journal) and a new one from Israeli Insider, there are new developments, and the Obama campaign appears to be stonewalling. Shouldn't it be a fairly easy matter to prove he was born in Hawaii if he really was? Why wouldn't Obama just end this quickly?

Is there anything to this?

ADDENDUM: I should add to the above that I am not a conspiracy theorist. My predisposition on the many stories floating around about Obama and his circle is to ignore them on the following theory: If there was really anything to this or that, the Clintons would have found it and gotten their media friends all over it. This story about Obama's eligibility puzzles me because (a) it is so basic, (b) it should be so easy to prove the relevant facts of his birth, (c) the Obama campaign's response to the story is bizarre, and (d) it seems to be getting worse rather than resolved.

07/06 12:09 PM


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; forgery; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamatruthfile
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To: liberallarry

We have police and military for any temporary problems that might result and disqualifying him now - ON LEGITIMATE GROUNDS, if this story can be proven - would save the country.


21 posted on 07/06/2008 11:02:25 AM PDT by Postman
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To: 9YearLurker
I can’t believe the whole country is going along with the ruse!

It is hard to get the idea across, but once again (I hate to keep repeating it) but 2/3 of Americans are brain dead. Just to mention one source, for the past many years the far left has been saturating our colleges with professors, and even the administration, that produced brain dead hard left nutty deadheads.

22 posted on 07/06/2008 11:02:30 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Aria

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23 posted on 07/06/2008 11:04:19 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: liberallarry
Disqualifying him on those grounds now - even if legitimate - would tear the country apart.

So if the grounds to disqualify him are legitimate then you would not mind if the laws of this country are just ignored?

24 posted on 07/06/2008 11:05:00 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Aria
This is a bogus claim the same was used against Goldwater (Arizona Territory) and some are trying to use it against McCain(Panama Canal Zone)Both were born of Mothers who were American Citizens so why bring up this CRAP (Im trying to be nice) When there is so much about this Closet Black Muslim to use.
25 posted on 07/06/2008 11:05:17 AM PDT by tsali
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To: Logical me

But surely our countrymen have a few brain cells at least still functioning—if only we can get their attention. That, I think, is the challenge!


26 posted on 07/06/2008 11:05:19 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
"I can’t believe the whole country is going along with the ruse!"

Really? Have you considered who he's running against?

Another liar with no coherent message.

27 posted on 07/06/2008 11:05:34 AM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: Always Right
Obama is definitely hiding something. It is speculation as to what, but he is hiding something.

I would looooove to see that he was not born here, but I think the big deal is that he was named 'Berry' and has changed it to a muslim name, all the while claiming he is Christian. The fathers listed race of "African" on the BC was a dead give away. This could very well sink him and give Hillary another chance if it starts blowing up! Don't wait on McCain to do anything; wimp.

28 posted on 07/06/2008 11:05:47 AM PDT by Bommer (A Third Party can win when Republicans and Democraps stand for the same thing!)
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To: ncfool

Now is that a conspiracy theory?

There are enough conspiracy theories to fill up Vince Bugliosi’s 1500 page book many times over. Your theory is a WAG, almost no basis in fact, yet.... Could it happen? Would it cause RIOTS in the street?

I bet it would.

By the way, there are conspiracies. For example, the ultimate one?

LBJ killed JFK, Hoover altered the evidence. History will look back on us as fools for not figuring that one out!


29 posted on 07/06/2008 11:06:59 AM PDT by BILL_C (Those who don't understand the lessons of history are bound to repeat them!)
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To: Aria
Obama cannot be allowed to be CIC. The Military will leave in droves just like in the Clinton years. This will again leave us vulnerable to plottings like 9/11. Get out the vote! A vote for McCain is a vote against Obama.
30 posted on 07/06/2008 11:07:09 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Always Right
Obama is definitely hiding something. It is speculation as to what, but he is hiding something. I think Obama might have told some pretty big whoppers, and the real birth certificate would shine light on to those.

I agree that it's likely more than rope-a-dope, but regardless, even if he were born elsewhere, he'd qualify for the legal requirements of the office of President.

However, that doesn't mean there aren't questionable things on his Birth Record (not to be confused with birth certificate). Frank Abagnale Jr

31 posted on 07/06/2008 11:08:54 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: EEDUDE

A very unfortunate circumstance, I agree. But scoundrels have long abounded in politics, the Obamameister is taking it to a new level, wrapped in an ideology that our citizenry still, in sum, rejects!


32 posted on 07/06/2008 11:08:55 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: liberallarry
Disqualifying him on those grounds now - even if legitimate - would tear the country apart.

That would be a good thing.

33 posted on 07/06/2008 11:10:22 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: EagleUSA

Thanks. Great comments.

I waver back and forth between who or what is the biggest danger to America, freedom and the survival of Western civilization. Is it Islamofascism or the Marxists/leftists/ traitors and fifth columnists in our own country.

I’m beginning to think it’s the vast hard left wing conspiracy right here in our own country.


34 posted on 07/06/2008 11:10:37 AM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: liberallarry
"Disqualifying him on those grounds now - even if legitimate - would tear the country apart"

Yeah, cuz we're so unum now. It'd be sad and so drear to be estranged from the Leftists.


35 posted on 07/06/2008 11:11:23 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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Obama disqualified himself for the Presidency the second he stated he would sit down and negotiate with supporters of terrorism.

McCain disqualified himself for the Presidency the second he answered a question in a debate about a hypothetical in which America had already been attacked, intel officers had terrorists in their custody who had knowledge that could prevent a second attack, and he stated that he would not in such a scenario authorize water-boarding of those terrorists to prevent the attack.


36 posted on 07/06/2008 11:12:23 AM PDT by LaurenD
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To: liberallarry

“Disqualifying him on those grounds now - even if legitimate - would tear the country apart.”

Spoken like a true Obamaniac.


37 posted on 07/06/2008 11:12:53 AM PDT by motoman
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To: liberallarry

You were being sarcastic, right?


38 posted on 07/06/2008 11:13:01 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: tsali
This is a bogus claim the same was used against Goldwater (Arizona Territory) and some are trying to use it against McCain(Panama Canal Zone)Both were born of Mothers who were American Citizens so why bring up this CRAP

Because the areas you listed are under US jurisdiction and therefore a person born there is indeed a citizen. However if Berry was born in a foreign country not considered US territory, he is disqualified period! His refusial to release his birth certificate is pretty damning of something, just like John Kerry refusing to sign SF180, otherwise why hide it?

39 posted on 07/06/2008 11:13:26 AM PDT by Bommer (A Third Party can win when Republicans and Democraps stand for the same thing!)
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To: ncfool
The clinton’s are waiting until the week before to leak and discredit Obama. So the confusion will allow the Superdelegates to call for a floor vote. The rest will be history. Now is that a conspiracy therory?

Actually a pretty good one.

Saves the madam several months of campaigning, money, and worst of all, answering the press.

40 posted on 07/06/2008 11:13:47 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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