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FARC leaders were paid millions to free hostages: Swiss radio
Forbes.Com ^ | 07.04.08, 9:19 AM ET | Thomson Financial

Posted on 07/04/2008 7:53:57 AM PDT by milky

Leaders of the Colombian FARC rebel movement were paid millions of dollars to free Colombian politician Ingrid Betancourt and 14 other hostages, Swiss radio said on Friday, quoting 'a reliable source'.

The 15 hostages released on Wednesday by the Colombian army 'were in reality ransomed for a high price, and the whole operation afterwards was a set-up,' the radio's French-language channel said.

Saying the United States, which had three of its citizens among those freed, was behind the deal, it put the price of the ransom at some $20 million.

The radio said its source was 'close to the events, reliable and tested many times in recent years.'

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: betancourt; colombia; farc; hostages; latinamerica; ransom
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Since the Swiss-France-Spain negotiation team does not want to look bad, I will admit to the possibility that this is just a smokescreen to put the US and Colombia in a worse light, but (I'm pretty sure I'm going to get beat on for this) I must admit that I thought yesterday's rescue accounts were kind of strange and coincidental, yesterday - a rescue that seemed, at least to me, to have been much too innovative and well orchestrated for the Colombian Army, who reportedly couldn't pour piss from a boot.
1 posted on 07/04/2008 7:53:57 AM PDT by milky
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Didn't Bettencourt(?) say one of the FARC leaders was tied up and laying on the floor of the ‘chopter she rode out on?
2 posted on 07/04/2008 8:01:08 AM PDT by tubebender (Why does a round pizza come in a square box?)
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To: milky

I read some months ago that they had paid the ransom - and gotten no hostages. That is, they’d been stiffed by FARC.

So I would suspect they did pay, didn’t get what the hostages, and then the Colombian govt went ahead with Plan B.

The Colombian military has been heavily trained and professionalized by the US in the years since the end of the horrible Clinton era (which virtually gave Colombia to FARC). And in addition, apparently we were very much involved in this rescue.


3 posted on 07/04/2008 8:01:14 AM PDT by livius
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To: milky
Swiss radio said on Friday, quoting 'a reliable source'.

I refuse to believe the anti-American media.

4 posted on 07/04/2008 8:02:17 AM PDT by donna (I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth. - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: milky

I understand they arrested the kidnappers. The French/Columbian lady rescued even saw him tied up when it was announced they were free.


5 posted on 07/04/2008 8:02:20 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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I took some heat yesterday for saying this looked too convenient, the timing and all. It will interesting if this pans out. I do not approve of paying ransoms to kidnappers. It just insures someone else will be kidnapped.


6 posted on 07/04/2008 8:02:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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To: tubebender

Her guard and another guard got on the copter with the hostages, and once they were in the air, the hostages heard a commotion behind them. When they dared to look around, the guards were lying on the floor, stripped naked and bound.


7 posted on 07/04/2008 8:02:38 AM PDT by livius
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To: milky
I hope this report is false. If it is true, I hope that all involved in bribery to the enemy are promptly cashiered from both civilian and military leadership as quickly as possible.

The last time we were up against murderous Muslims, it was the Barbary Pirates. At that time a Member of Congress declared, "Millions for defense. Not one cent for tribute." Have we no such Members of Congress left?

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Beyond Guns: The Deeper Meaning of Heller"

8 posted on 07/04/2008 8:05:53 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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If this was a money issue...it would have been fixed up several years ago. I suspect that FARC has slipped badly in the past two or three years...and probably is a “Woody Allen-style” guerrilla operation, with drug money keeping them up and running but nothing else to brag about. The Swiss report...I’m guessing is speculation rather than actual fact.


9 posted on 07/04/2008 8:07:56 AM PDT by pepsionice
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I’m pretty sure you’ll find they paid the ransom earlier - and got no hostages. I remember reading about this some months ago. The French had also been “negotiating” to get her. Of course, her (French) mother said something stupid like, “oh, if only they could have dialogued...” Numerous groups actually had been “dialoguing” for years, but these high-value hostages were FARC’s big bargaining chip and it’s not likely they gave them up.

One thing that might be involved, however, is a big buy-out of somebody on the inside of FARC. The good guys infiltrated the group very high up, and it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a very wealthy ex-FARC out there right now. (Probably in deep hiding, of course!)


10 posted on 07/04/2008 8:08:14 AM PDT by livius
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much too innovative and well orchestrated for the Colombian Army, who reportedly couldn't pour piss from a boot.

They have been working closely with the best for the last 8 years, and the whole operation seems to have been conducted with a great deal of American electronic warfare involved.

I'll come right out and say it: This story is bull****. The international Left cannot allow the Bush administration and its allies ANY successes, so they have come out with this story just so that the left-wing blogs will have something to point to. NOTHING can be allowed to disrupt the narrative of the Left in this all-important election year.

11 posted on 07/04/2008 8:08:32 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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Saying the United States, which had three of its citizens among those freed, was behind the deal

I'm not inclined to believe this report but, if it is true, then what was left of Bush's spine has been removed

12 posted on 07/04/2008 8:11:45 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Privatizing profits and socializing losses is no way to run an economy)
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To: Congressman Billybob

FARC Muslims?


13 posted on 07/04/2008 8:12:34 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: milky
Do you think the raid into in Ecuador in March where Columbian troops captured Farc laptops and killed one of their top leaders was also a setup? As far as what the Columbians and other Latin American countries are capable of, it really depends on the people in charge. You might read Mark Bowden's book titled 'Killing Pablo'. The hero of that book is Colonel Hugo Martinez, a Columbian Army officer, who puts his and his family's lives at stake to trackdown and kill Pablo Escobar.

Another example of things depending on the people in charge is when Fujimori launched the raid on the residence of the Japanese ambassador where Tupac Amaru terrorists were holding dozens of hostages. That raid killed all fourteen of the terrorists with the loss of only one hostage (due to heart failure).

14 posted on 07/04/2008 8:13:18 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: pepsionice

FARC has an aging leadership. Most of them are in their 70s; they haven’t been replaced by fresh blood, and the Colombian government has been very successful with a two-pronged approach of military action and “reinsercion,” that is, retraining of former guerrillas to reenter normal society. In many cases, the “guerrillas” weren’t particularly voluntary, but were peasant children who had been kidnapped and brought up in guerrilla camps, where the boys were trained to blow things up and the girls were used as prostitutes. So amnesty and retraining was an offer that was very attractive to many of them, especially as the leadership began to age out and lose some of its grip.


15 posted on 07/04/2008 8:13:41 AM PDT by livius
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To: milky

Does anyone think we will get to know the real truth, if so, how would it be proven? If people don’t like what they hear, they will just say they don’t believe it, regardless of the evidence.

That’s the great thing about the internet.


16 posted on 07/04/2008 8:14:49 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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This story is bull****. The international Left cannot allow the Bush administration and its allies ANY successes

I agree. They hate Uribe, too. The thing that amazes me is how many people here seem to want to believe it and are already cursing Bush for "weakness." Strange.

17 posted on 07/04/2008 8:15:24 AM PDT by livius
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The thing that amazes me is how many people here seem to want to believe it and are already cursing Bush for “weakness.” Strange.
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18 posted on 07/04/2008 8:18:27 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: milky
Leftist propaganda to discredit the brilliance of this operation. The truth is, it doesn't matter what the leftists say now. FARC knows it's been pwned big time and what they are facing. Some idiot commie in the press doesn't play a big role in the dynamics and the aftermath of this operation. The real players know what's at stake, and for FARC, it's their @ss.
19 posted on 07/04/2008 8:19:34 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: milky

“a reliable source” = a total fabrication


20 posted on 07/04/2008 8:20:20 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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