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To: null and void

Absolutely amazing the lengths that people will go to hide from reality. Of course volcanos are causing the Arctic to melt. Isn’t it obvious? It couldn’t be the millions of tons of carbon. And the carbon and other GHG increases in the atmosphere? Obviously caused by Leperchaun dust. And, the increased rate of class 5 hurricanes is caused by super big dragon flies from the Bermuda Triangle. You’re implication that AGW is a vast left wing conspiracy reminds me of Hillary’s vast right wing conspiracy. You’re not Hillary are you?

Wake up and face reality. It appears that we are changing the climate. As long as dopes keep denying it, it gives guys like Al Gore a platform. Pathetic.


27 posted on 06/30/2008 6:35:01 PM PDT by melstew
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To: melstew

Hmm.

Was there supposed to be a < /sarc> tag anywhere in that? And if so, where?


29 posted on 06/30/2008 6:40:56 PM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can differentiate, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians - OBL)
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To: melstew
Wake up and face reality. It appears that we are changing the climate. As long as dopes keep denying it, it gives guys like Al Gore a platform. Pathetic.

"Yearning to Understand" has an excuse -- he's today's newbie. What's yours?

Visit http://www.icecap.us/ to begin your education.

31 posted on 06/30/2008 6:43:44 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: melstew
It appears that we are changing the climate.

You have an awfully high opinion of what man can actually do.

Let me know when we can make one tornado. Just one is all I ask.

PS there isn't an increased rate of class five hurricanes.

Sorry.

32 posted on 06/30/2008 6:46:36 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: melstew
There are many climate reconstructions that show that it was warmer in 1000 AD than it is today. The heaviest industry back then was Cathedral-building - no plausible AGW. The factors that made 1000 AD so warm are the same ones that gave us the modern Warm period.

The undeniable anthropogenic increase in CO2 ppm since 1850 is not significant. Water vapour constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect. The effect from CO2 is tiny in comparison.

Any "facts” regarding global warming that are based on the erroneous concept that CO2 is the main player in the greenhouse effect will end up overstating human impacts as much as twenty times.

Also, the idea that we have an unprecedented level of CO2 today is simply incorrect. For instance: a paleobiological study of the stomata frequency of fossil birch leaves (link is: here ) shows that CO2 concentrations in the early Holocene period (say 11000 years ago to 6000 years ago) were between 300 and 370 ppm – certainly on a par with todays “unprecedented” levels of millions of tonnes of CO2.

43 posted on 06/30/2008 7:22:57 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: melstew
Wake up and face reality. It appears that we are changing the climate. As long as dopes keep denying it, it gives guys like Al Gore a platform. Pathetic.

How do we know the volcanoes aren't the cause of the increase in atmospheric CO2?

Just how was the modern-day baseline for CO2 established, and where is it measured? cmdl.noaa.gov Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Dry Air Mole Fractions from quasi-continuous measurements at Barrow, Alaska; Mauna Loa, Hawaii ; American Samoa; and South Pole, 1973-2006

Mauna Loa? Has that been in the news in recent years? I believe Mauna Loa is an active volcano, that had a quiet period from 1975 to 1984 - the early part of the baseline period. hvo.wr.usgs.gov/maunaloa/history . In fact, Mauna Loa is the largest volcano on the planet! hvo.wr.usgs.gov/maunaloa

What's relevant about that? It makes me question the validity of the measurement, just like the distribution and location of official weather stations makes me question the validity of the "warming" data. www.surfacestations.org

Have you ever heard that old saying "figures don't lie, but liars figure"? Dig into the data yourself, and see what it tells you. There is a wealth of data available today to those who are interested in learning about any subject, and on the subject of Global Warming, the data is telling me that there are some liars figuring...

46 posted on 06/30/2008 7:34:01 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: melstew
Wake up and face reality. It appears that we are changing the climate.

Yes, the stupid fools can't see the writing on the wall, all they have to do is open their eyes!

Just look at the last decade of... Ooops, static to falling temperatures. And even the Gorebots assure us that this decade long trend will continue for another 10 to 15 years.

So the prediction of a severe .5 to 1 degree of global warming in the coming 50 years starts with at least 20 to 25 years of static or falling temperatures. Interesting.

As I think on it, it was little more than 30 years ago that scientists were issuing dire predictions of global cooling.

Also very interesting is that the fix for global warming is a tax on energy and a global redistribution of wealth. How very Marxist of Mother Nature.

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And, the increased rate of class 5 hurricanes is caused by super big dragon flies from the Bermuda Triangle.

Perhaps you could point me to the actual prediction and data supporting this claim. I remember hearing the perennial predictions of greater numbers, and greater severity, but as I recall these were just a few of the very many global warming predictions that have proven false.

48 posted on 06/30/2008 8:46:25 PM PDT by RJL
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To: melstew
It appears that we are changing the climate.

There you go again...

57 posted on 07/01/2008 2:57:31 AM PDT by Rudder
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