Freep this poll: Will the controversy about Obama's Birth Certificate affect the Intrade Price?

Intrade ^ | June 26, 2008 | Kevmo

[Kevmo]

Poll Will the controversy about Obama's Birth Certificate affect the Intrade Price?

Yes, he could be ineligible to be president by the "natural born" rules 40% [ 2 ]

No, it's a Tempest in a Teapot 60% [ 3 ]

Total Votes : 5

[Kevmo]

I think you need to sign up with a login name (no trading necessary) in order to be involved with the poll.

[arderkrag]

No, it's a Tempest in a Teapot 60% [ 3 ]

Correct answer.

[chuckles]

I just want to know if his mother named him Barrack or Benny. How many single mothers would name their child by the fathers name after they split? Maybe he had an epiphany when he was hanging with Farrakhan and changed his name. I think joining the “bow tie boys” when he turned 21 might make a difference. There are many questions besides how long his mother was in country that a BC would clear up.

[Wil H]

Correct answer.

Then why would he post an uncertified, unsigned, version of a document that is invalid without both, and redact the serial number to make it untraceable?

according to procedure, this document, in an unembossed, un-notarized condition couldn't ever be in the hands of anyone. It isn't ever sent to anyone in that form.

[DB]

If you want to have fun with wild theories...

Hillary knows Obama’s BC is bogus. She's using it to blackmail Obama into selecting her for VP. Then once elected as the "dream ticket" that can't lose, the bogus BC is mysteriously exposed and Hillary becomes President...

There...

Wild enough?

[ModelBreaker]

Correct answer.

I agreed with you up until the Israeli Insider article. But I now think there's something very weird going on and the odds are not wildly against it being BO hiding a bombshell.

I have a dear friend who is a lifelong dem and somewhat of a power in the Calif democrat party. He's also a very savvy political analyst. I updated him tonight with a couple of the articles on this issue. His reaction was the same as mine. This could be very big trouble for BO.

If BO had just stonewalled like Kerry and the military records, the media could have carried his water, as they did Kerry's. But there's a probable fake document out there that Obama has now endorsed. It's going to be a lot harder for the media to ignore that than it was for them to ignore Kerry's military records.

If this is just incompetence on the part of BO, it makes him look young and naive--not fatal but damaging. If he's hiding a bombshell, he's going to have a hard time keeping it hidden because of the fake document.

Remember, HRC is still waiting in the wings.

[Caipirabob]

At the very least, any delay on releasing as essential a document as a birth certificate is both petty yet troubling at the same time. As someone suggested yesterday, perhaps he's making a game of it to draw in the conspiracy seekers and then discredit them, however it's still an unworthy game and leads to discussion of his other weaknesses.

So I'd have to take the side of it being an actual problem, whether it ends up valid or not. It's going to draw scrutiny to other issues he could avoid right now by releasing it.

[Nipfan]

If he’s posted a fake on his own site, and it appears very likely that he has, then the only one he’ll discredit is himself.

[BluH2o]

Tempest in a Teapot ...

Surely a variation but I've always heard it as 'a tempest in a teacup'. My British heritage don't ya know.

[DB]

It's no game if he's claimed a forged document as being real. He can't blame that on others, its on his Web site.

[Homer1]

do people really think: a) this is an issue? b) the republicans would persue a "default" strategy? c) even if this went to court, a court would have the stones to declare him inelligible. ?

[barb-tex]

Now the vote is 3y-3n after my vote. I hope I am not tempted tothere start trading again. Been there, done that. As my commodity statement used to say, “last amount is loss unless otherwise noted.
barbra ann

[Kevmo]

The blackmail game only works if you keep the information private. It’s now public, so it can’t be called blackmail any more.

My theory is that this is Hillary’s revenge. If it really disqualifies Obama, she can still win the nomination. Hillary only a couple of weeks ago was delivered “the biggest F*** You in political history” by the Obama campaign when they put Patti Doyle as head of the VP selection committee and she’s probably getting her revenge while she still can.

http://www.observer.com/2008/clinton-bundler-obamas-doyle-pick-biggest-fuck-you-ever

[Kevmo]

d’oh, I didn’t even realize I used the wrong term. Thanks. ;-)

[Kevmo]

do people really think: a) this is an issue?
***About half do, so far. But the poll numbers are very small. Obama’s Intrade price went UP this morning, so the indicators are that it’s a tempest in a teacup.

b) the republicans would persue a “default” strategy?
***What is the default strategy?

c) even if this went to court, a court would have the stones to declare him inelligible. ?
***I dunno what others think, but I doubt a court would have the stones to declare him ineligible. That’s actually a very astute observation about today’s political climate. If aRINOld Schwartzenwhatever ran for pres, we would all know that he was ineligible. This one seems to be closer to straddling a legal grey area. The democrats like to twist laws when they don’t like what the law says, and that’s the approach they’d take on this one.

[ckilmer]

this animated gif image goes back and forth between obama's birth certificate and a real birth certificate. note the missing seal, the blacked out certificate number and the differences along the edges of the seal. in order to show detail this is a high mg download.

this writer examines the writing in detail and shows why much of the writing on obama's birth certificate was photo shopped.

This is a google search of birth certificate obama. This story is steadily making its way up the info food chain.

This link gives the growing list of posts at free republic on obama's birth certificate.

[Kevmo]

Here’s a snapshot of the poll/forum results so far.

23 posts, 622 views

Will the controversy about Obama’s Birth Certificate affect the Intrade Price?

https://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/2279.page

Yes, he could be ineligible to be president by the “natural born” rules 50% [ 5 ]
No, it’s a Tempest in a Teapot 50% [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 10

[Kevmo]

Will the controversy about Obama’s Birth Certificate affect the Intrade Price?

Yes, he could be ineligible to be president by the “natural born” rules 42% [ 5 ]
No, it’s a Tempest in a Teapot 58% [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 12

POLINUT wrote:
Dude...this horse is dead...move on...
https://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/30/2279.page#27197#27197
KO wrote:
For a dead horse, it sure is getting up and running around.

This thread has over 1000 hits and the blogosphere is hyperventilating over the issue.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/birthcertificate/index