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I've been flamed on other threads for suggesting that GM is facing the real prospect of Chapter 11 but others are catching on. Incompetent, entrenched management, market share in meltdown and much better run competitors are killing this once great company.
1 posted on 06/26/2008 5:55:47 AM PDT by jalisco555
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I remember when after September 11 all the auto makers cut their loan rates, etc to help boost the economy. How much of that led to their decline, I wonder?


2 posted on 06/26/2008 5:58:40 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (H2OLY: The chemical formula for holy water.)
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Consider the source: Communist Negativity Network.


3 posted on 06/26/2008 5:58:55 AM PDT by RoadTest ( Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. But he spake of the temple of his body.)
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GM drove away a lot of people with decades of subpar automobiles. Many of those people went to the Japanese and are now quite happy. GM hasn’t yet matched the Japanese in most passenger car categories but they have improved. The problem is that most Japanese, and now Korean with the emergence of Hyundai, customers are satisfied. GM can’t just build an equal car to win them back, they must build a car that is clearly better and they’ve yet to show they can match things like the Accord.

They also screwed up by putting too many eggs in the SUV market. They let those profits keep them going. Once that bubble burst, as you knew it would, they ended up in trouble.


6 posted on 06/26/2008 6:07:39 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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“Incompetent, entrenched management, market share in meltdown and much better run competitors are killing this once great company.”

Come on! This is FR, get with the program. GM has only one flaw, unions. If union members were summarily shot, there would be cheers here. A less drastic step, that would still be greeted with much glee is to keep the managment here and move all manufacturing offshore. That would get some freepers wetting their pants with delight.

And those same freepers wonder why a putz like Obama is getting traction.


12 posted on 06/26/2008 6:17:24 AM PDT by brownsfan (Algore makes P.T. Barnum look like a piker.)
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I drove Chevrolets for decades, but recently switched to a Mazda. Given my long experience with GM vehicles and their typical problems, I would find it hard to go back.


13 posted on 06/26/2008 6:19:02 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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"And in a major sign of desperation..."

an opinion in a "news" story? I'm shocked!

22 posted on 06/26/2008 6:24:53 AM PDT by wny
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Time to manipulate the DJI by throwing out a loser & adding in a winner?

30 posted on 06/26/2008 6:33:10 AM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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I need the reliability, longevity, maintainability, safety, utility, comfort and looks in a vehicle so I buy GM. I see so many little ugly riceburners broken down on the side of the Interstates as I travel, I don’t see the facination with those things.


33 posted on 06/26/2008 6:41:47 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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GM Death Watch

"I have been in a long running debate with "Chris" who frequently comments on my blog. I have stated many times that GM should have dumped Ditech and GMAC. Chris disagrees. The argument from Chris is that GM needed GMAC to finance cars.

Sorry Chris, you lose. GM needed GMAC to finance cars in the same sense that addicts need the next fix. The "profits" that GMAC provided were an illusion, just as the negative amortization profits at Wachovia (WB) and Washington Mutual (WM) were an illusion.

GM is not really a manufacturer. GM is a subprime lender disguised as a manufacturer. And as long as the junkie could get its fix, the game could go on. GM could have and should have dumped its subprime lending scheme when it had the chance. It would have fetched top dollar.

GM did not need those businesses, there was plenty of financing available numerous other places. GM would have sold as many cars as it did, whether it had GMAC or not.

Ironically, the same holds true today. GMAC is bleeding badly and will have to tighten lending restrictions. Lending restrictions have tightened elsewhere. Now GMAC and Ditech are like lead weights on GM's neck. Things are so bad, GM might have to pay money to get rid of GMAC. That is exactly what GM should do. Instead, it continues to fund it."

43 posted on 06/26/2008 6:52:44 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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i remember in the mid-1980’s discussing with friends, some of whom had worked for gm and quit, that

the management and unions at gm were screwed up.

they’ve had decades to get their act together.


45 posted on 06/26/2008 6:59:01 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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I heard on the radio that GM has enough cash to last another six months. Too bad they and Ford couldn’t make a durable car to compete with the Japanese cars. For years I tried to be patriotic and buy American cars, but they were all poor quality. My Honda Civic has been the most reliable car I’ve ever had, now 12 years old.


56 posted on 06/26/2008 7:38:37 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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“As General Motors goes, so goes the Nation”. True?


60 posted on 06/26/2008 8:03:57 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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Maybe in the past they had bad management -- I think, in my opinion, that the current CEO is pretty good and he did manage to turn around GM ever so slightly but then got hit with high gas prices. All US manufacturers were counting too much on gas guzzlign SUVs, so no wonder Toyota is closing in on being number 1.

GM ought to bring the cars that are selling like hot cakes in China and India (I think they've had 25 to 30% year on year growth in those markets)
61 posted on 06/26/2008 8:04:11 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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$179 billion sales should not be ignored.


69 posted on 06/26/2008 8:37:03 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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GM’s market cap may be small but it is still a huge part of the economy. Here is the top 10 by revenue.

1 Wal-Mart Stores 378,799.00
2 Exxon Mobil 372,824.00
3 Chevron 210,783.00
4 General Motors 182,347.00
5 ConocoPhillips 178,558.00
6 General Electric 176,656.00
7 Ford Motor 172,468.00
8 Citigroup 159,229.00
9 Bank of America Corp. 119,190.00
10 AT&T 118,928.00


72 posted on 06/26/2008 8:46:40 AM PDT by FewsOrange
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Whats the old joke...

GM is an HMO that makes cars on the side. Death by unionization.


94 posted on 06/26/2008 10:18:16 AM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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Anti-Americanism is alive and well in the pages of financial journalism.


95 posted on 06/26/2008 10:20:09 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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Maybe they’ll rebound, and those who are employing the “dogs of the Dow” strategy might actually make some money this time around.


96 posted on 06/26/2008 10:23:09 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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Incompetent, entrenched management, market share in meltdown and much better run competitors


Add the burden of legacy UAW labor to the GM woes.

Bankruptcy would be a light at the end of the tunnel...helping to get the legacy burden off GM’s back.


103 posted on 06/26/2008 1:46:00 PM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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btt


105 posted on 06/26/2008 3:39:54 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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