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McCain in 2005: Gitmo Detainees Deserve Trials Or Should Be Released
NBC News Transcript ^ | June 20 2008 | Mark Nickolas

Posted on 06/24/2008 9:20:08 PM PDT by van_erwin

NBC News Transcripts
June 19, 2005 Sunday

SHOW: Meet the Press 10:00 AM EST NBC

MR. RUSSERT: Let me turn to Guantanamo. In October--excuse me, December of 2003, "John McCain said he is concerned about the failure to move ahead with prisoners' trials at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. ...`These cases have to be disposed of one way or another. After keeping someone two years, a decision should be made.'"

That was a year and a half ago. It's now been three and a half years. Should we close it?

SEN. McCAIN: I don't think necessarily. But I think the important thing is it's not the facility at Guantanamo, it's the adjudication of the cases of the prisoners who have been held there without trial or without any adjudication of their cases. So the frustration is not the fact we have a facility at Guantanamo, although that certainly becomes symbolic. The frustration is, is: What are we going to do with these people?

Now, I know that some of these guys are terrible, terrible killers and the worst kind of scum of humanity. But, one, they deserve to have some adjudication of their cases. And there's a fear that if you release them that they'll go back and fight again against us. And that may have already happened. But balance that against what it's doing to our reputation throughout the world and whether it's enhancing recruiting for people to join al-Qaeda and other organizations and want to do bad things to the United States of America. I think, on balance, the argument has got to be--the weight of evidence has got to be that we've got to adjudicate these people's cases, and that means that if it means releasing some of them, you'll have to release them.

Look, even Adolf Eichmann got a trial.
I mean, these--we are signatories to numerous agreements on human rights, against torture, universal declaration on human rights, etc. So that means we have to do something with these people. And I hope we can move that process forward very soon.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; dumpmccain; gitmo; idiot; mccain; mccainsucks; moron; newcandidatenow; notomccain; republicanteaparty; rino
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1 posted on 06/24/2008 9:20:08 PM PDT by van_erwin
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To: van_erwin

The guy who posted this seems to think the problem is that McCain has flipped on the position he held in ‘05 now that he’s running for President.

The question I have is, why was he saying this in ‘05 in the first place - and can we trust what he’s saying now?


2 posted on 06/24/2008 9:22:20 PM PDT by van_erwin
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To: van_erwin
McCain in 2005: Gitmo Detainees Deserve Trials Or Should Be Released

Dear John,

Not until the war is over.

Signed,

Independent conservative who you've not won over yet.

3 posted on 06/24/2008 9:25:07 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: van_erwin

do what FDR would do...he was a Dem, they should be happy with that

(I think GW has done exactly what FDR did)


4 posted on 06/24/2008 9:25:40 PM PDT by woofie
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To: van_erwin

McCain probably still holds this view.

Problem is this article never mentions that a trial he was talking about wasn’t in our judicial system.

I am pretty sure McCain was speaking of a military trial.


5 posted on 06/24/2008 9:26:23 PM PDT by JRochelle (Barak to Muslim women: "Your seats are in the back of the bus.")
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To: van_erwin

Sounds ok to me. Try them in a military tribunal. If we have the wrong guy, let them go. Of course the trial would be after sufficient time to interrogate them, then let them face justice. No lawyering up. I don’t think that’s what McCain wants.


6 posted on 06/24/2008 9:33:26 PM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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Its the little hit piece from the Obama media and posted here to stir up the usual Mccain bashing . Mccain was talking abut military trial . So what , they have to come to trial sooner or later . I agree . Who doesn't ? The Nazi got them .
7 posted on 06/24/2008 9:33:40 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: van_erwin

Of course we can’t trust anything that POS McLame says now. The problem, though, is that the donks have nominated a flat out treasonous taqiyya spouting radical leftist. Those are our choices. We have to deal with it. I’ll take a McLame over the Obamantion any day.

The core issue is that the MSM and education/indoctrination efforts have moved this country to the left. Won’t self correct. Won’t correct at all until this nation gets a cup of “wake the f### up,” probably in the form of nukes taking out a few cities. But in the meantime, we have to do damage control as well as we can, because we will have to have some strength left before to have any left after. That means voting for McLame, as repulsive as it is. At least he isn’t an actual knowing agent of the enemy, but rather just a useless idiot.


8 posted on 06/24/2008 9:34:27 PM PDT by piytar
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McCain … Manchurian Candidate.


9 posted on 06/24/2008 9:35:24 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: van_erwin

Fine. Release them in HIS neighborhood. Let him endanger himself as well as other innocent Americans.


10 posted on 06/24/2008 9:35:47 PM PDT by The Worthless Miracle (DRAFT BABY ALEX!!)
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To: doc1019
Spare us this conspiracy crap.
Lets compared that nonsense to the Muslim Marxist with the suspicious birth certificate and best friends with Ayers, Farrakhan , Wright , Pritzker , Meeks , .. the list is endless.
11 posted on 06/24/2008 9:40:22 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: van_erwin

Who knows what to believe when it comes to him. He is running as a different man than he has represented himself as over the years on a lot of issue.s


12 posted on 06/24/2008 9:55:29 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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He didn't say trials in US courts. I think we should have begun military tribunals 4 years ago, followed by summary hanging of anyone found to be allied with Al Qaeda.
13 posted on 06/24/2008 10:11:16 PM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: xzins
Independent conservative who you've not won over yet.

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Give 'im hell, my friend !!


14 posted on 06/24/2008 10:58:32 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO needs reach across the aisle to Conservatives for a CHANGE! Dang him!!!)
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To: y'all
Another version/variation ...


15 posted on 06/24/2008 11:01:00 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (McRINO needs reach across the aisle to Conservatives for a CHANGE! Dang him!!!)
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To: van_erwin
McCain in 2005: Gitmo Detainees Deserve Trials Or Should Be Released

But our guys don't deserve our best efforts to get them back when they're captured.

The War Secrets Sen. John McCain Hides

16 posted on 06/25/2008 12:56:34 AM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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John, these are prisoners of war. We are not required to convict them of anything. They remain prisoners as long as the war continues, and we repatriate them after the war.

Do you honestly think every POW gets a trial? Yikes.

Did we provide trials for the German, Japanese or other POWs we had before the end of WWII? Were they convicted of anything prior to the end of the war?


17 posted on 06/25/2008 1:35:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
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Not a flip at all. We have military tribunals to consider challenges people make to being taken as prisoners of war, or if the people taken prisoner are considered to have broken the laws of war.

We have those tribunals, but frankly Bush was rather slow in getting them going, for whatever reason.


18 posted on 06/25/2008 1:55:01 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Come on John McLame, can you make it any more difficult to support your sorry RINO butt?
Two absolutely pathetic choices for president, Obamma Lamma Ding Dong or this crazy RINO.


19 posted on 06/25/2008 3:26:33 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: piytar
The core issue is that the MSM and education/indoctrination efforts have moved this country to the left. Won’t self correct. Won’t correct at all until this nation gets a cup of “wake the f### up,” probably in the form of nukes taking out a few cities.

That says it for me. That would be my tagline if it weren't so long.

20 posted on 06/25/2008 3:51:04 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Teach your child to be an American. Take him out of public school.)
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