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Give 'im hell, my friend !!
Posted on 06/24/2008 9:20:08 PM PDT by van_erwin
NBC News Transcripts
June 19, 2005 Sunday
SHOW: Meet the Press 10:00 AM EST NBC
MR. RUSSERT: Let me turn to Guantanamo. In October--excuse me, December of 2003, "John McCain said he is concerned about the failure to move ahead with prisoners' trials at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. ...`These cases have to be disposed of one way or another. After keeping someone two years, a decision should be made.'"
That was a year and a half ago. It's now been three and a half years. Should we close it?
SEN. McCAIN: I don't think necessarily. But I think the important thing is it's not the facility at Guantanamo, it's the adjudication of the cases of the prisoners who have been held there without trial or without any adjudication of their cases. So the frustration is not the fact we have a facility at Guantanamo, although that certainly becomes symbolic. The frustration is, is: What are we going to do with these people?
Now, I know that some of these guys are terrible, terrible killers and the worst kind of scum of humanity. But, one, they deserve to have some adjudication of their cases. And there's a fear that if you release them that they'll go back and fight again against us. And that may have already happened. But balance that against what it's doing to our reputation throughout the world and whether it's enhancing recruiting for people to join al-Qaeda and other organizations and want to do bad things to the United States of America. I think, on balance, the argument has got to be--the weight of evidence has got to be that we've got to adjudicate these people's cases, and that means that if it means releasing some of them, you'll have to release them.
Look, even Adolf Eichmann got a trial. I mean, these--we are signatories to numerous agreements on human rights, against torture, universal declaration on human rights, etc. So that means we have to do something with these people. And I hope we can move that process forward very soon.
The guy who posted this seems to think the problem is that McCain has flipped on the position he held in ‘05 now that he’s running for President.
The question I have is, why was he saying this in ‘05 in the first place - and can we trust what he’s saying now?
Dear John,
Not until the war is over.
Signed,
Independent conservative who you've not won over yet.
do what FDR would do...he was a Dem, they should be happy with that
(I think GW has done exactly what FDR did)
McCain probably still holds this view.
Problem is this article never mentions that a trial he was talking about wasn’t in our judicial system.
I am pretty sure McCain was speaking of a military trial.
Sounds ok to me. Try them in a military tribunal. If we have the wrong guy, let them go. Of course the trial would be after sufficient time to interrogate them, then let them face justice. No lawyering up. I don’t think that’s what McCain wants.
Of course we can’t trust anything that POS McLame says now. The problem, though, is that the donks have nominated a flat out treasonous taqiyya spouting radical leftist. Those are our choices. We have to deal with it. I’ll take a McLame over the Obamantion any day.
The core issue is that the MSM and education/indoctrination efforts have moved this country to the left. Won’t self correct. Won’t correct at all until this nation gets a cup of “wake the f### up,” probably in the form of nukes taking out a few cities. But in the meantime, we have to do damage control as well as we can, because we will have to have some strength left before to have any left after. That means voting for McLame, as repulsive as it is. At least he isn’t an actual knowing agent of the enemy, but rather just a useless idiot.
McCain … Manchurian Candidate.
Fine. Release them in HIS neighborhood. Let him endanger himself as well as other innocent Americans.
Who knows what to believe when it comes to him. He is running as a different man than he has represented himself as over the years on a lot of issue.s
Independent conservative who you've not won over yet.- - - - - - - - - - - - -
Give 'im hell, my friend !!
Another version/variation ...
But our guys don't deserve our best efforts to get them back when they're captured.
John, these are prisoners of war. We are not required to convict them of anything. They remain prisoners as long as the war continues, and we repatriate them after the war.
Do you honestly think every POW gets a trial? Yikes.
Did we provide trials for the German, Japanese or other POWs we had before the end of WWII? Were they convicted of anything prior to the end of the war?
Not a flip at all. We have military tribunals to consider challenges people make to being taken as prisoners of war, or if the people taken prisoner are considered to have broken the laws of war.
We have those tribunals, but frankly Bush was rather slow in getting them going, for whatever reason.
Come on John McLame, can you make it any more difficult to support your sorry RINO butt?
Two absolutely pathetic choices for president, Obamma Lamma Ding Dong or this crazy RINO.
That says it for me. That would be my tagline if it weren't so long.
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