Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen

Israeli Insider ^ | 6/24/08 | Reuben Korvet

[pissant]

t is now a virtual certainty that the "birth certificate" claimed by the Barack Obama campaign as authentic is a photoshopped fake.

The image, purporting to come from the Hawaii Department of Health, has been the subject of intense skepticism in the blogosphere in the past two weeks.

It has become even more suspect with the revelation that variations of the certificate image were posted on the Photobucket image aggregation website -- including one listing the location of Obama's birth as Antarctica, one with the certificate supposedly issued by the government of North Korea, and another including a purported photo of baby Barack -- one of which has a "photo taken" time-stamp just two minutes before the article and accompanying image was posted on the left-wing Daily Kos blog.

That strongly suggests that Daily Kos obtained the image from Photobucket, not the State of Hawaii, the Obama family, or the Obama campaign. Photobucket is not known as a credible supplier of official vital records for any of the fifty states, and the liberties that other Photoshoppers took with the certificates confirms this.

[Arthur McGowan]

There is some question on that. But regardless, there is no proof he was born outside the U.S. to begin with so that law doesn't apply.

This is not a criminal trial, with a "presumption of innocence." This is a man seeking the Presidency. The burden of proof is on him to show that he is qualified. When they card you for cigarettes, they don't have to have proof that you are NOT 18; they require proof that you are.

[MeanWestTexan]

Sure, they’ll be enraged. If the Obomination can’t be president legally, he can’t be president.

[Arthur McGowan]

If you're not claiming he was born outside the U.S. then that means he was born in the U.S. And if he was born in the U.S. then he doesn't have to prove it. It's automatic.

If Obama was born in the U.S., but his mother had failed to live in the U.S. for five years after the age of 16, then he is not a natural-born citizen, because his father was not a citizen. Thus, even if Obama proves he was born in the U.S., he has not proved he was a citizen.

In fact, it seems now proven that Obama is not a natural-born citizen, because:

His father was not a citizen; his mother was not 21 years old; thus, she had failed to live in the U.S. for five years following her 16th birthday.

[Crimson Elephant]

Can you imagine the media circus if this ever became a court case? It would make Bush v Gore look like Sesame Street.

I wonder if this is what the passport information breech was about a few weeks ago?

[Non-Sequitur]

If Obama was born in the U.S., but his mother had failed to live in the U.S. for five years after the age of 16, then he is not a natural-born citizen, because his father was not a citizen.

If Obama was born in the U.S. then he's a U.S. citzen per the 14th Amendment regadless of his father.

[Grampa Dave]

Exactly what you posted.

Go to this latest thread posted by Pissant:

PROVEN: Barack Obama Presented Forged Certificate of Live Birth
Today.com ^ | 6/25/08 | Virginia Shanahan

Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:52:46 AM by pissant

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2036197/posts

[Grampa Dave]

This is a reply that I posted to Pissant’s latest thread on this blatant forgery by the Obamination thugs.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2036197/posts?page=33#33

To: pissant
As I have posted before, there are 3 things that say “Beware of Lying Skunk” with his so called birth certificate:
1. The lack of the embossed seal on the certificate as noted in this statement: “According to Koret, Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health made clear that no birth certification, or certification of live birth is transmitted electronically, and that all certificates of live birth contain an embossed seal and registrar’s signature on the back of the document.”

2. The blacked out number, is nothing but bs.

3. Was the word African used to describe his father’s race in 1961? If so his father might have been a white South African or whatever.

His handlers and MSM abettors knew about this serious problem, and that is why the Compost and others tried to raise doubts about McCain being an American a month or so earlier.

[autumnraine]

I have a question and I hope it doesn’t sound racist to ask; Were hospitals in Hawaii segregated in 1961? I’m just curious because I was watching a PBS special a few years back about segragated hospitals and how they would put the mother in there if the baby was 1/8 (or in some cases “1 drop” black blood) black. So would Obama have been in a different ward/hospital with his father being from Kenya?

I know Hawaii is not as segregated as other parts of the US, so that’s why I even wonder if it were an issue there. But just crossed my mind from watching that show.

[Grampa Dave]

More good questions.

I don’t know.

Hopefully some of our H freepers can help us with the birth certificate.

Did Hawaii use the word African to describe a newborn’s father’s race in 1961?

[nikos1121]

What does this mean? That one of the documents is valid?

[Polarik]

Welcome to the discussion!

You might wish to take a look at the site that exposed the graphical fakery:

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/default.aspx

Start with the first post and go up from there.

[EEDUDE]

Very interesting. Thank you.

[cricket]

Good to have friends. . .now if the rest of America could find the door to the train here. . .

Of course, this IS a 'catch 22' despite what may be the merits of the truth here. Could see a 'race war' erupting.

Think more than Spike Lee would be chanting 'Obama - or DIE'. . .

[txhurl]

Oh, NOW you’re coming around.

Barack posted a forged, altered Birth Certificate on his stopthesmears website.

Presidents don’t do that. Chicago Wiseguys do stuff like that.

[txhurl]

You should credit our Hawaiian Freeper who gave hers up unredacted.

[BIGLOOK]

Aloha Dave,

I don't think the Registrar of Births would have used 'African' any more than using 'Popolo'; Most likely 'Negro' would have been used in 1961. On my son's BC from the Registrar in 1986, 'Caucasian' was the term instead of 'Haole'. They do use Micronesian and Polynesian though.

But let's cut to the chase, Dave. It's unlikely this pursuit will be fruitful trying to track an infant. The residence and dates of residence of the parent (mother) at the time of Obama's entrance into the world and the Presidential race is key. On the Registrar's Certificate of Birth is the date, names of the mother and father, their current addresses, their signatures and the signature of the attending physician. Registration of a birth takes only a working day or so (if the kid was born on a Saturday, the registration would be on a Monday or Tuesday).

It has been claimed that Obama was born at Kapiolani Medical Center which at the time had no facility to do so. That leave Queen's Hospital, Kaiser and FT Shafter as providers for obstetrics at the time. There was Straub Clinic and the tuberculosis hospital in Kaimuki and also the Shriner's hospital for kids with deformities but none of them had an OB ward (but there were MDs that were capable of delivering a birth there just like there are policeman and cabbies and ambulance drivers who get drafted in the moment).

So....the document is bogus but that's a forgone conclusion.

Track the mother and father. Their travel and dates of travel to where ever would be recorded in their Passports and Visas. This skinny would prove or disprove Obama's legitimacy.

[Kevmo]

Thanks for the laughs.

[bannie]

I don’t think it’s a “who.”

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for your reply below. Most of us don’t have the resources to find out why Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas, the Islamofacist Manchurian Candidate tried to pass this phoney birth certificate as a real one.

At now we need to get the word out that this Birth Certificate is as phoney as Blather’s famous documented lies about GW and the Air National Guard.

As we spread the word on this serious falsification, we need to ask why would he and his thugs try to pull this off?

Thanks for your comments below, and I have copied them to this reply so people can read them.

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 8:36:04 PM · 516 of 518
BIGLOOK to Grampa Dave
Aloha Dave,

I don’t think the Registrar of Births would have used ‘African’ any more than using ‘Popolo’; Most likely ‘Negro’ would have been used in 1961. On my son’s BC from the Registrar in 1986, ‘Caucasian’ was the term instead of ‘Haole’. They do use Micronesian and Polynesian though.

But let’s cut to the chase, Dave. It’s unlikely this pursuit will be fruitful trying to track an infant. The residence and dates of residence of the parent (mother) at the time of Obama’s entrance into the world and the Presidential race is key. On the Registrar’s Certificate of Birth is the date, names of the mother and father, their current addresses, their signatures and the signature of the attending physician. Registration of a birth takes only a working day or so (if the kid was born on a Saturday, the registration would be on a Monday or Tuesday).

It has been claimed that Obama was born at Kapiolani Medical Center which at the time had no facility to do so. That leave Queen’s Hospital, Kaiser and FT Shafter as providers for obstetrics at the time. There was Straub Clinic and the tuberculosis hospital in Kaimuki and also the Shriner’s hospital for kids with deformities but none of them had an OB ward (but there were MDs that were capable of delivering a birth there just like there are policeman and cabbies and ambulance drivers who get drafted in the moment).

So....the document is bogus but that’s a forgone conclusion.

Track the mother and father. Their travel and dates of travel to where ever would be recorded in their Passports and Visas. This skinny would prove or disprove Obama’s legitimacy.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Very convincing....