Posted on 06/24/2008 1:01:41 PM PDT by pissant
t is now a virtual certainty that the "birth certificate" claimed by the Barack Obama campaign as authentic is a photoshopped fake.
The image, purporting to come from the Hawaii Department of Health, has been the subject of intense skepticism in the blogosphere in the past two weeks.
It has become even more suspect with the revelation that variations of the certificate image were posted on the Photobucket image aggregation website -- including one listing the location of Obama's birth as Antarctica, one with the certificate supposedly issued by the government of North Korea, and another including a purported photo of baby Barack -- one of which has a "photo taken" time-stamp just two minutes before the article and accompanying image was posted on the left-wing Daily Kos blog.
That strongly suggests that Daily Kos obtained the image from Photobucket, not the State of Hawaii, the Obama family, or the Obama campaign. Photobucket is not known as a credible supplier of official vital records for any of the fifty states, and the liberties that other Photoshoppers took with the certificates confirms this.
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IOW, Hillary is sitting in a room somewhere, arms clasped around her drawn up legs, rocking back and forth saying “FR ... get ‘er done, get ‘er done.”
No, but they would to get US provided health care and welfare benefits, things that were nonexistent if you were a citizen of Kenya in 1961.
IF this were true (that he was born in Kenya), then he is not a natural-born U.S. citizen - given what has been published about his mother's age at the time of his birth and her length of residency in the U.S. prior to his birth.
Hi. Did you read my entire post? I think it’s #49. There is no record of his birth when you search through the various pay investigative sites. Two hospitals are listed on the web as his place of birth. etc etc. It doesn’t add up. Why? What if someone confronted you, saying “prove that you’re an American citizen.” Papers would be flying. It would easy as falling down. You have the hospital records, eye witnesses, birth certificate, photos, etc etc.
I want to see the hospital records on this, not any birth certificate. Because I don’t think that there is a birth certificate. If so, it should say born in Kenya.
A single fold through the middle or folded in thirds or quarters would be very common, but a single fold a couple inches from the top seems very unusual.
This single fold inconsistency could be the result of photoshopping.
A much larger version from Daily Kos. Click on it to enlarge it twice.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616
I saw commentary on one thread that suggested they blanked out the certificate number because it was "blank", that the certificate was filed but never accepted by the state of Hawaii. I wonder if thats true that cert #'s are only filled in when the certificate is accepted?
Yes, I agree with this. There have been others that say no... But I agree with you.
At the very least, he has lied about this and needs to explain in detail. I don’t think he will.
“If it ain’t got The Seal, it's No Deal.”
As I recall, the parents have to register the baby at an U.S. consulate or embassy.
>>>>>So he can put a forgery on his website as ‘proof’ and suffer no consequences?<<<<<
He can drape himself in one of those Che flags and kill three kittens on live video on his website and suffer no consequences.
He can tell everyone that, if elected, he will immedietaly put all white people in reeducation camps, drain everyone’s bank account and redistribute the money to evenly and he would suffer no consequences.
He can get caught with three hookers and an ounce of cocain at a WeatherUnderground meeting and suffer no consequences.
He can...... well, you get it. His followers will never ever see him as doing anything wrong.
Don’t you think that the requirement for the US citizen parent to have been a US resident for five years prior to the birth of the child applies to naturalized citizens only, and not natural citizens? The portions of the law that keep getting posted basically say that no natural US citizen who is under age 21 and married to a foreigner can have natural US citizens as children. That just doesn’t make sense.
That's right. Very good. Maybe something more to that than just people fooling around.
What is the reference to Obama’s mother’s “extended time abroad” affecting his citizenship? When was she abroad before his birth? I thought they went to Indonesia when Obama was a couple years old.
I’ve read posters theorize that the seal impression did not come through in the way it was scanned by Obama’s people. Doesn’t sound likely, but maybe.
I have yet to see any body explain why the ink of the datestamping bleeds through in both the Obama and Decosta scans but the signature block bleeds through the Decosta document but not the Obama one, except for my explanation—the Obama document does not have a signature block stamp on the back.
It’s a genuine document. It’s just not complete. Not signed via the signature block. And that lends support to the idea there is no certification impression either.
If the document is a complete forgery, I’ll congratulate the forger as having a remarkable talent to imitate the date stamping machine, but question his thoroughness.
Still, I guess it is a genuine document that bypassed usual procedures.
Don't know, but if you look at the timestamp in the middle (it was stamped on the reverse side), you can see that this one was allegedly issued in 2007.
The American People -
Has the State Dept. been disputing Obama’s citizenship, or the veracity of his birth certificate? I hadn’t heard that.
As an infant wouldn't he get those through his mother? There is no question at all that she was a U.S. citizen. And is there any evidence at all that she was ever on welfare?
There’s a date stamped in the lower fifth of the certificate, near the middle. It’s backwards, and I can’t make out what it says.
...to US parents on a US military base at a time when the Canal Zone was legally US territory.
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