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1 posted on 06/18/2008 5:29:34 AM PDT by Maceman
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Humans were on this continent BEFORE the northern “virgin” forests took root.


2 posted on 06/18/2008 5:35:32 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Maceman

Good piece. If you took away all the lies from the Environmentalists’ playbook, they wouldn’t have a whole lot left to work with.


3 posted on 06/18/2008 5:37:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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Maybe we should emulate our Indian forbears and go and steal every drop of oil we can from the OPEC countries........


4 posted on 06/18/2008 5:37:43 AM PDT by Red Badger (NOBODY MOVE!!!!.......I dropped me brain............................)
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6 posted on 06/18/2008 5:40:40 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Maceman
The penalty for trespassing by one tribe on another's property was death without a trial. They also raided each other's camps for slaves, usually women. They were a brutal unforgiving people living in a brutal unforgiving land. The Aztec, Arapaho, Apache, Comanche and Blackfoot, plus many other tribes were not peace loving hippies. The ones that made nice with the white man were realists that understood what the alternative was.
7 posted on 06/18/2008 5:41:43 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Maceman
Thank you for this excellent, excellent post.

This utterly ridiculous but apparently unkillable myth needs to be exploded as often as possible.

The part of the myth that particularly gets my goat is: "Indians knew how to use every part of the animal they hunted, unlike Europeans who were used to just raising and slaughtering animals for meat." As a child, teachers told me this about 100 times in US history class.

Before Europeans ever came to the New World, what would they do with a cow?

They would eat all the muscle meat - steaks and chops, of course. They would also eat the organs (kidney pie, tripe, sweetbreads, liver, headcheese). The would turn the blood into black sausage. They would boil down the hooves for gelatins and aspics. They would crack the bones and eat the marrow, then roast the bones to extract stock for soups and sauces. They would use the bones for decorative purposes as well. They tanned the hides into leather garments. They even used the excrement to enrich the soil. Not to mention the milk, cream and butter they extracted from the animal during its life.

Only a profound self-hatred could make people proclaim the opposite of the obvious facts to be true.

9 posted on 06/18/2008 5:47:50 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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14 posted on 06/18/2008 5:59:12 AM PDT by blam
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bttt

Another illustration of why smart people homeschool.


16 posted on 06/18/2008 6:14:46 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Driving a Phase Two Operation Chaos Hybrid that burns both gas AND rubber.)
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GGG?


23 posted on 06/18/2008 6:35:56 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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Michael is 100% correct in this article. This was one thing that shocked me in doing research on the Iroquois and related semi-settled tribes in the Eastern Woodlands. They would build a palisaded village--sometimes with up to three rows of sharpened tree-trunks surrounding it--and then farm the surrounding area. They had no notion of soil exhaustion or crop rotation, so they would just farm the area until it wouldn't produce any more and hunt the surrounding game to extinction. At that point, they would burn the village down, pick up their stuff and move someplace else.

Theirs was an intriguing and dangerous life, but they were hardly stewards of the environment. That's just another myth created by the left to make ignorant white people feel bad.
24 posted on 06/18/2008 6:37:18 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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There is a book that compares photos of the Black Hills of South Dakota (sacred land to the Lakota) taken in 1876 by Gen. Custer’s expedition (the spring before the Little Bighorn) with the same view in 2002. One is immediately struck by the vast increase in forests. In 1876, forest fires set by natural or other means were not extinguished, nor were there human efforts made to replant forests.


25 posted on 06/18/2008 6:38:45 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Maceman

Myths are not so easily “busted,” go into any high school in the U.S. today and ask of the students whether they had heard both sides of this story and you will get blank stares.

Why it matters should be our focus.

Mankind can’t harm the earth for the simple reason that the earth has no feelings in a moral or physiological sense.

It’s just a rock, careering in space, programmed to do so until the clock winds down.

Mankind should rightly concern himself with the survival of mankind unless he no longer wants to wait for the clock.


33 posted on 06/18/2008 7:34:22 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Maceman

Santa Claus.. Easter Bunny... Honest Politicians..


40 posted on 06/18/2008 12:07:37 PM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/nativeamericans/chieflogan.htm

“I appeal to any white man to say if he ever entered Logan’s cabin hungry, and he gave him not meat; if he ever came cold and naked and he clothed him not. During the course of the last long and bloody war, Logan remained idle in his cabin, an advocate for peace.

Such was my love for the whites, that my countrymen pointed as I passed, and said, “Logan is a friend of the white man.” I have even thought to live with you but for the injuries of one man, Colonel Cresap, who last spring in cold blood and unprovoked murdered the relatives of Logan, not even sparing his wife and children.

There runs not a drop of my blood in the veins of any living creature. This has called on me for revenge. I have sought it; I have killed many; I have fully glutted my vengeance.

For my country, I rejoice in the beams of peace.
But do not harbor a thought that mine is the joy of fear. Logan never felt fear. He will not turn on his heel to save his life. Who is there to mourn for Logan? Not one.”

Amerindian speakers gave pretty moving speeches. Oration was a neccessary social skill in their society. People in preliterate societies had better memories than we do.

And English translators often had a poor grasp of the language they were interpreting and used literary license freely to fill in the gaps.

I always remembered the above speech by Chief Logan.


41 posted on 06/18/2008 1:44:08 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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It is not known who the first Americans were, or even when. This is probably going to be seen by the academic anthropology lobby as a racist remark. It is impossible to stop laughing.


49 posted on 06/21/2008 9:30:41 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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