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McCain and the Bitter Conservatives
American Thinker ^ | June 15, 2008 | Andrew Sumereau

Posted on 06/15/2008 12:57:09 AM PDT by neverdem

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Thin gruel, but I'll be holding my nose. God help us, please?
1 posted on 06/15/2008 12:57:10 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
who gives a sh#t?

3 a.m. and I just got off of work.

I'm one of the "rich" people that just don't deserve a tax break.

I'm so glad the democrats and the republicans know how to spend my money.

I can't make up my mind whether to vote for McCain or just sit at home and laugh my tail off for 3-4 years.

2 posted on 06/15/2008 1:07:13 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: neverdem

This country is being destroyed by over-regulation. I see no hope that McCain and his environmental band wagon will give us any relief on that score.


3 posted on 06/15/2008 1:09:05 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: marsh2
By refusing to drill ANWR or construct new energy production facilities, McPain is ensuring that Americans will pay upwards of 10 bucks for a gallon of gas.

Guaranteed.

4 posted on 06/15/2008 1:10:52 AM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: neverdem

On the comforting side, Sir Winston L S Churchill moved in that hazy middle-section between Labor and Conservative for much of his elected life, changed parties from Labor to Conservative, and then led a Conservative-Labor Coalition Government thru the Second World War.

He was the UK’s greatest Prime Minister ever (followed by Wellington and Marlborough IMO), and is usually held up as a fantastic Conservative model.

Just possibly McCain will do something similar. Nothing says that he has to stay the same as he already is. Churchill didn’t.


5 posted on 06/15/2008 1:12:36 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I don't know how you can mention Churchill and that drek McCain in the same thousand paragraphs.
6 posted on 06/15/2008 1:21:45 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: DieHard the Hunter

If I may offer a small opinion, DieHard The Hunter; I do believe that history shows Sir Winston Churchill was opened minded enough to seek answers and solutions to whatever problem, situation he was working on.

On the other hand, history shows us that McCain is quite content with his agenda, his values, and his associates. There is very little hope that he will change at this stage of his life; nor will he leave his comfort zone.

America needs a leader for President.
It’s not McCain.
It’s not Obama.

That’s the gritty reality right now — and it’s not pretty.


7 posted on 06/15/2008 1:30:46 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Luke21

> I don’t know how you can mention Churchill and that drek McCain in the same thousand paragraphs.

And yet I did... deliberately.

Churchill wasn’t always the brilliant Prime Minister he is remembered for: he had a long political career that was mostly nondescript. And some of his work was truly bad.

The six years he was PM during WW-II tho’ — that was magic.


8 posted on 06/15/2008 2:01:45 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: neverdem
McCain is solid on two (alas, two) vital issues that make the difference; spending and judges.

Sadly, Gorebull Warming negates one of those vital issues, The Gangrene of 14 and McCain-Feingold negate the other.

9 posted on 06/15/2008 2:07:51 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Cindy

> If I may offer a small opinion, DieHard The Hunter; I do believe that history shows Sir Winston Churchill was opened minded enough to seek answers and solutions to whatever problem, situation he was working on.

Sometimes, yes. But the Dardanelles campaign in WW-I was largely his doing, and it was a disaster, and he would not be persuaded that Turkey wasn’t “the soft underbelly of Europe” like he thought.

Gallipoli was the result — which is a tragic subject near and dear to the heart of every Kiwi and Ocker.

> America needs a leader for President.
> It’s not McCain.
> It’s not Obama.
>
> That’s the gritty reality right now — and it’s not pretty.

I humbly submit Ollie North / Curtis Sliwa as the *DieHard the Hunter* GOP Candidates of Choice, for President and Vice President, respectively. Before these two men, who could stand?


10 posted on 06/15/2008 2:09:33 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Ingtar

Look, if you want a reality check go visit the presidential forum of DU and see what the goals of those crazies are and how devoted they are to Obama — the man they feel will totally negate everything accomplished by conservatives since Reagan.

Voting for Obama, or not voting at all if you are a patriotic conservative ameks as much sense as putting a tatoo of Elton John on your rear end and dropping the soap in a prison shower. Some people would enjoy the results but most would not.


11 posted on 06/15/2008 2:13:21 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Prole
"By refusing to drill ANWR or construct new energy production facilities, McPain is ensuring that Americans will pay upwards of 10 bucks for a gallon of gas. Guaranteed.

Then we'll just pay more for everything else as well.

Gas goes up, everything that it fuels goes up, wages as well. Oil is one of those things that the entire economy is built on. All increasing oil prices does is drive up inflation. Sooner or later, the price of everything will catch up, adjusting to the increased costs of oil/gas.

The profits made by sudden sharp oil price increases are only temporary, which just goes to prove we are being gouged by inside trading.

These oil caused inflationary cycles will only end when less and less of our economic output depends on oil. But no matter what energy sources industry switches to, smaller inflationary cycles will continue to be triggered by sudden increases of those energy supplies.

12 posted on 06/15/2008 2:24:27 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DieHard the Hunter

It is a shame that Bush, who had the opportunity to be like Churchill, failed so miserably. Great start and then went down like an anchor. Churchill is the greatest man of the 20th century IMO.

We will see if McCain is up to the task. I doubt it sincerely but he will have his opportunity.

It won’t be due to my vote: I refuse to vote for him under any circumstance. However, I think he will defeat Obama and become the next CINC.


13 posted on 06/15/2008 2:25:32 AM PDT by wireplay
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To: neverdem
Obama lite? No thanks.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

14 posted on 06/15/2008 2:25:43 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem
So the question of the day is how can a candidate that turns off a large portion of his base, who will most certainly be put on the defensive by a biased media, who appears old and uncool to the great unlettered new generation of voters, succeed?

He cannot, and will not.

Also, conservatives, though unhappy, will do the right thing for the country if only through a sense of duty.

Whistling past the graveyard.

15 posted on 06/15/2008 2:27:09 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

The beauty of oil price increases is that there is now a massive pressure to find alternatives. Go alternative energy, go!


16 posted on 06/15/2008 2:27:56 AM PDT by wireplay
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Churchill was a great man, but he was already demonstrating his greatness in the years leading up to the war, warning against Hitler while serving as First Lord of the Admiralty.

McCain is a betrayer. He has no principles. Churchill wouldn’t have let England be swarmed under a flood of illegal immigrants. Again, terrible analogy.


17 posted on 06/15/2008 2:28:48 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: wireplay
Go alternative energy, go!

A waste of time and money. There is no alternative for the foreseeable future.

18 posted on 06/15/2008 2:32:26 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: neverdem; P-Marlowe

John McCain seems to enjoy saying things that set my conservative teeth on edge. As they suggest, these things demoralize. That which demoralizes also causes hesitation, procrastination, reconsideration.

That’s exactly what John McCain doesn’t want, but he seems hell-bent on getting it.

I think he wants to prove he can win without the conservatives by forming a coalition of lib/mod republicans + mod Democrats + mod independents.

He doesn’t want to be beholden to conservatives in any way shape or form. In terms of judgeships, that is scarey. John McCain will appoint what his experience in the Senate says will get through without much difficulty; i.e., “moderates.”


19 posted on 06/15/2008 2:42:39 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: neverdem
Same here.

Normally, by this time, I'm spending a regular work day, every day, working on my Presidential candidate's campaign. Making calls, going house-to-house, and anything else I can do to help. I'm doing for Senator Istook, but no Presidential work. I'll vote for McCain, but I can't, in honestly, work for a candidate I can't believe in.

I grew up in the country. A maverick is a heifer, steer, bull, or cow, that is too stupid to follow the rest of the herd. Somebody needs to inform the McCain campaign. I've already tried.

20 posted on 06/15/2008 2:44:17 AM PDT by singfreedom
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