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Temperatures Rise In IL Town Over Window-Mounted Air Conditioner Ban
All Headline News ^ | June 13, 2008 | Vittorio Hernandez

Posted on 06/14/2008 5:06:48 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

Addison, IL (AHN) - It will be a hot summer in this Chicago neighbor this year, not only because of the rising temperature but a ban on window-mounted air conditioner units.

The prohibition is the result of an ordinance approved by the village board in March. It specifically banned the installation of window-mounted air coolers on walls that face the street or in side windows 12 feet or less from the street.

The law seeks to improve Addison's aesthetics, according to Addison Mayor Larry Hartwig. Violators of the ban will be given warnings this year, but next year they would be fined up to $500.

Addison is the home of several large U.S. firms which includes Pizza Hut, Mary Kay and Palm Harbor Homes. Its stringent landscape regulations even defines plant heights in certain locations.

Addison has about 36,000 residents who live in multifamily dwellings that are quite old. Some residents have questioned the correctness of such a law during summer.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: propertyrights; zoning
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I remember a bunch of people dying in a recent Chicago heatwave. This won’t go over well if that happens again.


21 posted on 06/14/2008 5:37:35 PM PDT by TNdandelion (It's Buh-rack Uh-bama for uh hope and uh change.)
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To: csmusaret

LOL. I was thinking the same thing.


22 posted on 06/14/2008 5:38:11 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: TNdandelion

I remember that too. I graduated college the year after that happened. I remember Illinois had a boom in new peaking power growth. It is where I landed my first real job.


23 posted on 06/14/2008 5:41:46 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Little commie group won’t be the ones enforcing the ban, unfortunately, this will lead directly to confrontations with the police and a lot of dead innocent citizens who attempt to resist this insanity.

This mayor and anyone on the council who approved this attack on common sense needs to be dragged into the streets and pilloried during the hotted week of the year without a drop to drink from sunrise to sunset.

Let them suffer for a week and see if they remain stupid, if so, repeat the punishment.


24 posted on 06/14/2008 5:44:14 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

No Cooling Hum in This Urban Oasis

William Gross is sweltering through the steamy, sticky days of summer wishing he could walk into the nearest appliance store and buy the biggest air-conditioner in stock.

He can afford thousands of B.T.U.’s, enough to chill his two-bedroom apartment to the see-your-breath coldness of a polar bear’s den. But because he lives in Stuyvesant Town, he wilts.

For in Stuyvesant Town, where 18,000 people live in a parched six-block-long area, air-conditioners are strictly against the rules.

‘A Lot More Arguments’

‘’People look at me and say how can you live without one?’’ said Mr. Gross, an insurance agent. ‘’You eat out a lot. You go to the movies. You change the sheets a lot. You get into a lot more arguments with your wife.’’

On the oval-shaped sidewalks in Stuyvesant Town, an 89-building middle-income complex on the East Side of Manhattan, and in Parkchester, a condominium complex in the Bronx where air-conditioning is also forbidden, this is the time of year when people plot strategies about fans. They decide where to place them, how to aim them, even how to find the prized, discontinued Hunter fan units that families hand down from generation to generation the way children of football fans dream of inheriting season tickets to Giant games.

Some residents wonder about propping room air-conditioners against the window, out of sight of security guards and nosy neighbors who could notify the management. Others avoid cooking. And one topless toddler was dashing across a Stuyvesant Town playground the other day saying, ‘’The ice cream store, the ice cream store, the ice cream store’’ - like a mantra.

On a day of merciless heat, with the sun blazing through a mostly cloudless sky, New Yorkers had other hot-weather headaches yesterday, a day with the temperature peaking at 89 degrees at 3 P.M.

Although there are no air-conditioners in Stuyvesant Town or Parkchester, thousands of others were humming yesterday, helping to set a state record for electricity used in a single day. The New York Power Pool, which ties together the state’s seven major utilities, said demand reached 25,274 megawatts in midafternoon. A megawatt is one million watts.

Yesterday also marked the first time this summer that the Long Island Lighting Company asked its customers to limit power use. Lilco estimated that the request cut use by 50 to 100 megawatts.

For centuries people have dreamed up ingenious ways to cool themselves - an eighth-century caliph of Baghdad imported snow and packed it between the walls of his palace, and Leonardo da Vinci designed water-driven fans. But so far no one has figured out how to air-condition Stuyvesant Town. Metropolitan Life, the insurance company that owns the complex, says the 40-year-old wiring could not support thousands of air-conditioners safely.

A Metropolitan vice president, Fred Wortman, said rewiring Stuyvesant Town would cost at least $50 million. It hopes to have a plan ready by the end of the year, he said, but the rewiring will take years to complete.

With a lengthy waiting list for its rent-stabilized apartments, the landscaped Stuyvesant Town complex has been described as a green oasis.

In Parkchester, residents have hired consultants to advise them on keeping cool. Amit Sikdar, who manages Parkchester South in the complex, said one option was piping chilled water through each building and installing fans to throw the cold air into the rooms.

‘An Art to This’

In the meantime, tenants make do with umbrellas, bandannas, broad-billed caps and long visits to friends’ air-conditioned apartments. ‘’I go to the D’Agostino’s on 20th Street just to walk down the aisles,’’ one tenant, Joan Bennett, said.

At home, there are fans, fans, fans. Chris Bush has eight. Ed Petty has four, including a huge Hunter fan. ‘’There is an art to this,’’ he said. ‘’I sit in the living room with the shades drawn and the kitchen fan roaring.’’

But some like it hot, or at least warm. Stuyvesant Town’s senior citizen center, an oasis of four air-conditioners, began warming up the other morning. The director, Isabelle Ackerman, checked and found someone had nudged the temperature knob toward - can you believe it? - warm.

To make their apartments a bit more bearable, some residents have bought an $845 windowless air-conditioner, an Italian device that keeps William Koniuk’s handy digital thermometer at a steady 54 degrees.

‘’I tell ‘em don’t buy it,’’ said Mr. Koniuk, the owner of Frenchmen TV, an appliance store on First Avenue across from Stuyvesant Town, pointing to a sign saying the unit violates Stuyvesant Town rules. ‘’They say, ‘If you don’t want to sell it, we’ll go somewhere else.’ ‘’ This has made Mr. Koniuk the largest seller of the units this side of the Tiber.

For some Stuyvesant Town tenants, the hottest prospect for staying cool is moving. In 1978, Mr. Gross applied for an apartment in Peter Cooper Village, a Metropolitan Life complex across from Stuyvesant Town, where air-conditioners are allowed. He was told not to expect to get to the top of the waiting list until 1993.

‘’Only five more hot summers,’’ he said. ‘’But you know what? I hear the wiring in Peter Cooper isn’t so good.’’

Published: August 4, 1988

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25 posted on 06/14/2008 5:54:02 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It’s a health issue with the elderly.


26 posted on 06/14/2008 5:55:23 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (If the Republican party wants to survive, it must return to its conservative foundations)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Before investing in a portable air condition, I suggest researching the topic. Many if not most of them are dramatically less energy-efficient than window-mounted units.

One reason is that the warm air has to be exhausted to the exterior. For every cubic foot of air you exhaust, you pull in another hot and humid cubic foot of outside air. Worse, many of them do not allow for the exhaust air to be shut off when the compressor shuts off, so you keep throwing your cool, dry air away and pulling in hot, damp outside air all the time the unit is on.

As you might deduce, I’m not a fan.


27 posted on 06/14/2008 6:01:40 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Sherman Logan

Holy cow.

I haven’t researched this (which makes me the perfect person to comment on it :^), but I assumed that they kept the outside air, which cools the condenser, separate from the inside air, which is cooled by the evaporator (being the objective of this exercise).

That design would, of course, keep the outside air separate from the inside air, so the air it “pulled in” would go through the condenser and then right back out again, never exchanging with the inside air.

If this isn’t true, it’s just crazy.


28 posted on 06/14/2008 6:34:08 PM PDT by Erasmus (I invited Benoit Mandelbrot to the Shoreline Grill, but he never quite made it.)
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To: DLfromthedesert
This is Illinois. They are second only to France in the number of poor and elderly people who suffocate in non-airconditioned tenements in the Summer.

In the meantime their Governor, Blog the Impaler, intends to make things even more uncomfortable for pharmacists.

29 posted on 06/14/2008 6:36:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Erasmus

There may be such a unit on the market. In fact, there are “split” types of portable ACs, where the compressor sits outside and the refrigerant lines are all that run through the window.

But most units work as I described. I know because I made the mistake of purchasing one.

Anybody want a cheap used GE portable AC?


30 posted on 06/14/2008 6:37:57 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Sherman Logan
Best bet for the portable units is for single-room "dryout" in climates where the need is limited to a month or less.

That way you can, at least, sleep at night.

31 posted on 06/14/2008 6:40:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I agree that they have such uses, although even for this purpose most of them burn a whole lot more juice. I would strongly suggest looking for a unit that has an Auto setting where the exhaust fan shuts off when the compressor shuts off. They would still burn more electricity than a window unit, but should be more efficient than those without such a feature.


32 posted on 06/14/2008 6:43:35 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Erasmus
We bought one several years back for one of the kids to use in his non-airconditioned on-campus apartment. The air is kept separate. The "tube" had two channels ~ one brought in outside air to the heat exchanger, and the other blew that air back to the outside. With one person in the apartment things were dry and cooler. With more than one person in there, things were dry.

Still, it was always better than "outside" and he could sit there at his PC doing homework while chilling under the cool breeze coming from the portable unit.

33 posted on 06/14/2008 6:45:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Erasmus
We bought one several years back for one of the kids to use in his non-airconditioned on-campus apartment. The air is kept separate. The "tube" had two channels ~ one brought in outside air to the heat exchanger, and the other blew that air back to the outside. With one person in the apartment things were dry and cooler. With more than one person in there, things were dry.

Still, it was always better than "outside" and he could sit there at his PC doing homework while chilling under the cool breeze coming from the portable unit.

34 posted on 06/14/2008 6:46:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sherman Logan

The efficiency of the window units is highly degraded when the landlord has a $360 mandatory “installation fee”.


35 posted on 06/14/2008 6:46:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Has to be Dems in charge, right?


36 posted on 06/14/2008 6:47:30 PM PDT by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: Alice in Wonderland
People really do choose to live in hell? Whoda thought it.
37 posted on 06/14/2008 6:50:30 PM PDT by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I feel your pain. I spent a week or so with my elderly parents a few months ago. I was there to help take care of them for a while. I thought I would have a heat stroke.

They have central air and heat but thier comfort zone is quite different from mine.

38 posted on 06/14/2008 6:54:45 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (McCain, my penultimate choice in the primary and only choice in the general)
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To: muawiyah

Quite true, if one is discussing cost-effectiveness as opposed to energy efficiency.

But even the portable units require some installation.


39 posted on 06/14/2008 6:56:46 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: csmusaret
If I lived there City Hall would suddenly find themselves without AC.

Repeatedly. This is stupid - these so-called "officials" need to be run out of town.

40 posted on 06/14/2008 6:58:53 PM PDT by meyer (Government is the problem, not the solution.)
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