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New Fuel Cell System 'Generates Electricity with Only Water, Air'
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080613/153276/ ^ | 06-13-2008 | Kouji Kariatsumari, Nikkei Electronics

Posted on 06/13/2008 12:02:30 PM PDT by Red Badger

120W fuel cell system

Internal portion of the 120W fuel cell stack

300W generation system mounted in a luggage room (left)

Genepax Co Ltd explained the technologies used in its new fuel cell system "Water Energy System (WES)," which uses water as a fuel and does not emit CO2.

The system can generate power just by supplying water and air to the fuel and air electrodes, respectively, the company said at the press conference, which took place June 12, 2008, at the Osaka Assembly Hall.

The basic power generation mechanism of the new system is similar to that of a normal fuel cell, which uses hydrogen as a fuel. According to Genepax, the main feature of the new system is that it uses the company's membrane electrode assembly (MEA), which contains a material capable of breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen through a chemical reaction.

Though the company did not reveal the details, it "succeeded in adopting a well-known process to produce hydrogen from water to the MEA," said Hirasawa Kiyoshi, the company's president. This process is allegedly similar to the mechanism that produces hydrogen by a reaction of metal hydride and water. But compared with the existing method, the new process is expected to produce hydrogen from water for longer time, the company said.

With the new process, the cell needs only water and air, eliminating the need for a hydrogen reformer and high-pressure hydrogen tank. Moreover, the MEA requires no special catalysts, and the required amount of rare metals such as platinum is almost the same as that of existing systems, Genepax said.

Unlike the direct methanol fuel cell (DMFC), which uses methanol as a fuel, the new system does not emit CO2. In addition, it is expected to have a longer life because catalyst degradation (poisoning) caused by CO does not occur on the fuel electrode side. As it has only been slightly more than a year since the company completed the prototype, it plans to collect more data on the product life.

At the conference, Genepax unveiled a fuel cell stack with a rated output of 120W and a fuel cell system with a rated output of 300W. In the demonstration, the 120W fuel cell stack was first supplied with water by using a dry-cell battery operated pump. After power was generated, it was operated as a passive system with the pump turned off.

This time, the voltage of the fuel cell stack was 25-30V. Because the stack is composed of 40 cells connected in series, it is expected that the output per cell is 3W or higher, the voltage is about 0.5-0.7V, and the current is about 6-7A. The power density is likely to be not less than 30mW/cm2 because the reaction area of the cell is 10 x 10 cm.

Meanwhile, the 300W fuel cell system is an active system, which supplies water and air with a pump. In the demonstration, Genepax powered the TV and the lighting equipment with a lead-acid battery charged by using the system. In addition, the 300W system was mounted in the luggage room of a compact electric vehicle "Reva" manufactured by Takeoka Mini Car Products Co Ltd, and the vehicle was actually driven by the system.

Genepax initially planned to develop a 500W system, but failed to procure the materials for MEA in time and ended up in making a 300W system.

For the future, the company intends to provide 1kw-class generation systems for use in electric vehicles and houses. Instead of driving electric vehicles with this system alone, the company expects to use it as a generator to charge the secondary battery used in electric vehicles.

Although the production cost is currently about ¥2,000,000 (US$18,522), it can be reduced to ¥500,000 or lower if Genepax succeeds in mass production. The company believes that its fuel cell system can compete with residential solar cell systems if the cost can be reduced to this level.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Japan; Technical
KEYWORDS: electricity; energy; freeenergy; genepax; hydrogen; perpetualmotion; scam
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To: Red Badger; Slings and Arrows

See my post 78 and 79


81 posted on 06/15/2008 9:03:49 AM PDT by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: Slings and Arrows; Red Badger

Correction: see post 79 and 80


82 posted on 06/15/2008 9:05:50 AM PDT by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: Slings and Arrows; AnalogReigns

I understand the HHO injection idea to improve the efficiency of the combustion cycle- NOT to release more power from the hydrogen than it takes to crack it.

It’s simply an additive that makes the engine squeeze more power and less wasted heat out of the fuel/air/HHO mixture than burning fuel/air alone.

The trick is tuning the engine properly to makeuse of the mixture. More avanced timing, O2 sensor mods, stuff like that.


83 posted on 06/15/2008 9:13:09 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: cpdiii

If we ever get that low temp fusion thingy going we’ll be okay........


84 posted on 06/16/2008 5:20:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (NOBODY MOVE!!!!.......I dropped me brain............................)
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To: keat; Slings and Arrows

“Why didn’t somebody tell me that the Second Law of Thermodynamics had been repealed?

It happened yesterday. 5-4 decision by the Supreme Court. “

Congratulations. Your sarcastic remark and subsequent retort have been nominated for the coveted Geek/Politics award, 2008, Collaborative Team category.

You should be hearing from the nominating committee shortly... :-)


85 posted on 06/16/2008 12:37:17 PM PDT by HeadOn (Tell me again why millions of lazy, greedy people are MY problem?)
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To: HeadOn; keat

You like me! You really like me!


86 posted on 06/16/2008 12:53:10 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Code Pink should guard against creating stereotypes in the Mincing Community." --Titan Magroyne)
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To: Red Badger

OK —how long before the government taxes water and air? Have to make up those gas taxes somehow.


87 posted on 06/16/2008 1:00:38 PM PDT by duckbutt (Those who pay no taxes have no check on their appetite for services.)
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To: duckbutt

They’ll tax your tires, $100 each..............


88 posted on 06/16/2008 1:02:40 PM PDT by Red Badger (NOBODY MOVE!!!!.......I dropped me brain............................)
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To: Slings and Arrows; keat

Easy there, Sally...

I sympathize with you on academia, there S&A. My Mom taught elementary school for about 37 years, and the last few were easily distinguished from the first. Her sister taught, as well. Let’s just say that all my cousins and I are really glad we went into engineering...

Have a great week.


89 posted on 06/16/2008 1:03:19 PM PDT by HeadOn (If only the medical profession could develop a stupidity vaccine...)
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To: Red Badger

This company Genepax has actually produced a prototype of a car that runs only on water. Here is some video footage of the car in action. It can do at least 40 mph, even though the car is tiny. This is promising for the future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jivb7lupDNU


90 posted on 06/17/2008 8:01:46 AM PDT by Deo et Patria ("Don't taze me, bro!")
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To: Deo et Patria

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2030689/posts


91 posted on 06/17/2008 8:31:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (NOBODY MOVE!!!!.......I dropped me brain............................)
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To: Camel Joe
Newton’s Law of Gravity once told us we could not fly

Yes we could -- we just had to apply an equal (or greater) force in the opposite direction.

92 posted on 06/17/2008 8:34:59 AM PDT by kevkrom (2-D fantasy artists wanted: http://faxcelestis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=213)
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To: kevkrom

No, it was Bernoulli’s equation that showed usa that.


93 posted on 06/24/2008 11:10:31 AM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: ovrtaxt
HHO injection idea to improve the efficiency of the combustion cycle

I nice sounding phrase until you look at the fundamentals of the reaction going on in the engine. Then it falls apart.

94 posted on 06/24/2008 11:17:08 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: NMR Guy
It is thermodynamically impossible to break water into hydrogen and oxygen and then get a net energy gain by reacting the hydrogen with oxygen in the air.

Cold Fission? ;~))

95 posted on 06/24/2008 11:33:51 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Red Badger
New Fuel Cell System 'Generates Electricity with Only Water, Air'

Idiot Journalists. That is the original fuel cell from the 20's and further developed in the early 60's. Nothing new.
96 posted on 06/24/2008 11:38:53 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: Camel Joe
No, it was Bernoulli’s equation that showed usa that.

If I'm not mistaken, that told us how we could fly. The theoretical ability to fly simply required the (continued) application of a force greater than gravity, which directly follows from Newton's laws.

97 posted on 06/24/2008 11:39:34 AM PDT by kevkrom (2-D fantasy artists wanted: http://faxcelestis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=213)
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To: PA Engineer

I just read the entire article. I don’t know if I should call my lawyer since I hold one of the first regenerative fuel cell patents. The writer is a complete idiot. There is no magic here, however there is quite a bit of prior art. You would think the writer would at least get part of it correct.


98 posted on 06/24/2008 11:45:03 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: cpdiii
PS The laws of thermodynamics do not take heretics lightly.

Unfortunately, believers in the "magic secret weapons" take the laws of thermodynamics lightly.
99 posted on 06/24/2008 11:56:44 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: thackney; PA Engineer

Could you please explain how the process described in post 83 this isn’t a viable theory? It sounds more than reasonable to me, similar to adding nitrous.


100 posted on 06/24/2008 3:53:02 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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