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Is Obama's candidacy even constitutional?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 10 June 2008

Posted on 06/11/2008 9:15:05 AM PDT by Hal1950

Bloggers are raising questions about Illinois Sen. Barack Obama's qualifications to be U.S. president, because of the secrecy over his birth certificate and the requirement presidents be "natural-born" U.S. citizens.

Jim Geraghty, reporting on the Campaign Spot, cited the "unlikely" but still circulating rumor that Obama was born not within the United States, but elsewhere, possibly Kenya.

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To: PeterPrinciple
I’d bet that it says he is white

Oh, the horror! LOL

What a ....


81 posted on 06/11/2008 10:10:20 AM PDT by anymouse
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To: RockinRight
I think it says he’s WHITE.

Hmm. You might be right. Don't birth certificates list race?

82 posted on 06/11/2008 10:11:14 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Wasn’t he born at an early age?
Abbot:"What sign were you born under?"
Costello:"No Parking"

83 posted on 06/11/2008 10:12:33 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("It's not my fault if McCain loses - it's his own damn fault!" - Mark Levin)
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To: twigs; Congressman Billybob
Wouldn’t the federal agency which oversees elections look into whether or not a candidate met the qualifications to be president?

I have never run for office at any level. Maybe someone who has run for a federal office can tell us what documents they had to provide when filing to run for election.

84 posted on 06/11/2008 10:12:43 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Red Steel

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2029479/posts?page=69#69


85 posted on 06/11/2008 10:12:54 AM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. F--- the caribou.)
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To: Cicero

Actually, his mother’s marriage may NOT have been legal. IIRC, his father never got a divorce from his first wife and returned to Kenya and had more children with her, who are now BO’s siblings. THEY are Kenyan citizens. Obama’s mother may not have known about that and assumed that her marriage was his only one, or that least that it had been legally dissolved. It’s an issue that raises some legal questions.


86 posted on 06/11/2008 10:14:38 AM PDT by twigs
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To: usmcobra
Google it. Who knows what exists out there?

That's not my list...it's from ...

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

87 posted on 06/11/2008 10:16:03 AM PDT by top 2 toe red ("Cackling hillary...makes her sound like she is mentally-illary." Jimmy Kimmel. "Uh...she is!" Me)
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To: COBOL2Java

Q. What state does Conspiracy Guy live in?

A. Confusion.


88 posted on 06/11/2008 10:16:45 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: twigs
Wouldn’t the federal agency which oversees elections look into whether or not a candidate met the qualifications to be president?

It won't matter. They'll say that his intent was good, that it wasn't his fault that his family lied to him about his birth records and parents' marital status, he meant well, he didn't know, so it's okay with them if he runs.

-PJ

89 posted on 06/11/2008 10:17:13 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Red Steel; top 2 toe red
From that link:

US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.”

Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* .

In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen.

As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office. ------------- I don't see this in your list, top2toe, wonder where this provision is?

90 posted on 06/11/2008 10:17:58 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I grew up in that state!


91 posted on 06/11/2008 10:22:13 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("It's not my fault if McCain loses - it's his own damn fault!" - Mark Levin)
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To: RockinRight
And according to the linked website that law may have came off the books in 1986. In other words the law may be void or ab initio.

So what is Obama really hiding that's on his birth certificate?

92 posted on 06/11/2008 10:23:17 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: txflake
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html ...

There's no mention of this at the US Constitution Online site ... at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. {{{shrug}}}

93 posted on 06/11/2008 10:23:41 AM PDT by top 2 toe red ("Cackling hillary...makes her sound like she is mentally-illary." Jimmy Kimmel. "Uh...she is!" Me)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I wouldn’t think so. Did he take federal election money?


94 posted on 06/11/2008 10:24:13 AM PDT by twigs
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To: txflake

BO’s mother was born in Wichita, Kansas.

She was always a US citizen.

Also, I really doubt this law was intended to affect a parent who was themselves a natural born citizen who never lived outside the US - I think it was aimed at naturalized citizens who had a child with a non-citizen. I don’t think that law applied to someone who was born in the United States. Heck if that’s the case then millions of Americans who are 4th or 5th generation, born to mothers under 21, with immigrant fathers, aren’t “natural born” citizens.

If


95 posted on 06/11/2008 10:24:27 AM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. F--- the caribou.)
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To: COBOL2Java

I was born, raised, and I’ll probably die in this state.

My brother lives in Shame.


96 posted on 06/11/2008 10:28:00 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: twigs

Exactly. Obama’s father had been married before and apparently did not tell his mother about it when they were married.

So, what was it? Under American law, such a marriage could easily be annulled—or under traditional Catholic law, for instance. It was a marriage under false pretences.

Obama seems to treat it as a Muslim marriage, with his mother as the second wife. But was there ever a proper Muslim marriage? And if so, was it legal under American law? Even Muslims are expected to inform second wives about the existence of their first wives.

Perhaps it would not matter if Obama were simply illegitimate, if there were not also questions about his citizenship.

And also, frankly, some basic questions about his good judgment. Why does he prefer and idolize a drunken, corrupt, philandering, wife-abandoning, child-abandoning father over his mother—and over the grandparents who loved him, paid for his schooling, and brought him up—apparently for no other reason than that his father represented two things he admired over everything else: He was Muslim and black.


97 posted on 06/11/2008 10:30:26 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Hal1950

Will we even know when we see his birth certificate and all of his school recrods, including how he passed the bar or pass UNDER the bar. Pun intended.


98 posted on 06/11/2008 10:31:16 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Clemenza
McCain was born in the Canal Zone, now part of Canada, but then part of the US.

Really? Canada?! Not Panama?

I guess you learn something every day!

99 posted on 06/11/2008 10:34:24 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: txflake
In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen.

Only if he was born outside the U.S. If he was born in Hawaii, he is a natural-born citizen under the 14th Amendment, even if neither parent were a citizen.

100 posted on 06/11/2008 10:36:03 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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