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1 posted on 06/07/2008 9:55:33 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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2 posted on 06/07/2008 9:58:04 PM PDT by lowbridge ("I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it" - Van Den Boogaard)
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To: Dawnsblood

Geez, the Democrats and the Popular Vote. If they’re so enamored of the Popular Vote why are they nominating a guy who lost the Popular Vote in their own primaries?


3 posted on 06/07/2008 9:58:18 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("a wee bit silly." -Lord Trimble on Hillary Clinton's claim of foreign policy "experience".)
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The Dems will pump up turnout in the big cities and win national elections if these changes happened.


4 posted on 06/07/2008 9:58:24 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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and then 38 state legislatures must ratify the change within seven years.

And has anyone explained why state legislatures other than New York, California, Texas and Florida would agree to make their states irrelevant in presidential elections?

5 posted on 06/07/2008 10:00:06 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: Dawnsblood

Imagine that..... A democrat Senator believes he knows better how to preserve the Republic than the founders.

This ass clown is dangerous.

They simply can’t leave well enough alone.


6 posted on 06/07/2008 10:00:41 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Dawnsblood; SE Mom; Bahbah
SHRILLARY is the one who wants to get rid of the electoral college .. so bad, she can taste it. There will be a continuing drumbeat to change our form of election from the Rats.
7 posted on 06/07/2008 10:00:51 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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re: a method that would have given former Vice President Al Gore the White House after the contested 2000 election

Not necessarily so. Campaigning is done based on the electoral college. It would have been an entirely different game had they known it would be strictly on popular vote. I don't say that it wouldn't have been so, just that it's not the slam dunk the say it is.

Changing it at this stage in our country's history and development would be just one more step in dissolution of the greatest nation in the history of the world.

9 posted on 06/07/2008 10:02:18 PM PDT by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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Let me see. Would the Dems be more able to cheat their way into the Presidency? That's all I want to know.
10 posted on 06/07/2008 10:06:41 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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They should have introduced Nelson to the airlock on the Space Shuttle mission he bribed his way onto.


12 posted on 06/07/2008 10:30:59 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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Another demented Washington politician yearning to tinker with the Constitution.

Three quarters of these freaks need to retire before they do any more damage to the country.


14 posted on 06/07/2008 10:40:40 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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HOW many times do you have to tell these dim-witted Demos that we live in a REPUBLIC, Not a democracy?
15 posted on 06/07/2008 10:44:24 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: Dawnsblood
First, Congress must approve the idea, and then 38 state legislatures must ratify the change within seven years.

Congress must approve the idea by a 2/3rds vote of the House and Senate. I don't think that's going to happen.
17 posted on 06/07/2008 10:49:54 PM PDT by Deo volente
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Tell this to your Dem friends: You live in Massachusetts.
Under the electoral college, Obama wins the state and gets
the electoral votes. If he puts together the right coalition of states, small or big, he is elected.

But suppose McCain gets more popular
votes nationally. Obama won Mass. but it doesn’t matter because McCain won more pop. votes nationally. If electoral college is banned, and pop votes only counted, McCain’s in, in
that example. How does it feel, Dems?

2004 election; suppose there’s no elec college
Final
Bush 62,040,610
Kerry 59,028,444
Bush still wins.

But smaller states don’t get ignored in
the campaign. Obama could lose the popular vote but still
get in via electoral votes, if he puts the right states
together.


18 posted on 06/07/2008 10:50:38 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Dawnsblood; potlatch; devolve; MeekOneGOP
KEEP THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE

GET RID OF BILL NELSON INSTEAD

20 posted on 06/07/2008 10:55:37 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Dawnsblood
The Electoral College is one of the last untampered with remains of our Federal Republic. It no wonder that they have their sights set on it.

Tampering with this is a dangerous and awful idea.

We've already gone to direct election of Senators and we see how well "democracy" has worked there. The Senate has gone from a body of statesmen appointed by state legislatures to a bunch of pork swilling used car salesmen (sorry used car salesmen).

Is this really "broke" enough to "fix"? Is it so "broken" that we have to take the risk of changing a fundamental part of our system?

I honestly think this would be the most dangerous change to our system ever. Worse than income taxes and prohibition.
22 posted on 06/07/2008 11:05:52 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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I don't like the idea because then politicians would pretty much just campaign in major population centers. You'd never see a presidential candidate again in West Virginia or New Mexico. Maybe in Albaquerque.

Of course the electoral college also keeps candidates out of California because it's going Dem anyhow.

24 posted on 06/07/2008 11:21:43 PM PDT by MovementConservative (John Roberts and Sam Alito.... Thank you GWB)
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From the party that still won’t permit the counting of the absentee votes in Fla./2000 election.


25 posted on 06/07/2008 11:36:15 PM PDT by Waco
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Are they really that stupid? Do they think low population states are going to go for this. Either sheer stupidity or grand-standing.


29 posted on 06/08/2008 12:36:42 AM PDT by gogov
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"It's time for Congress to really give Americans the power of one person, one vote," Nelson said in a statement.

Hey Nelson, what are ya, some kinda retard?

OHHHHHH!!!AHHYYYYYY


31 posted on 06/08/2008 2:08:21 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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Well the constitutional mechanisms necessary to amend the constitution will put Senator Nelson's proposal into a half Nelson.
32 posted on 06/08/2008 2:13:01 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual!)
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