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1 posted on 05/29/2008 11:43:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Hard to tell what side of $ he’s on


2 posted on 05/29/2008 11:44:44 PM PDT by allmost
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our political system is set up so that it naturally favors two parties. But that doesn’t mean that they have to be the Democrat and Republican parties. It just means that if a third part ever gains traction, it will be at the expense of one of the others, which will fade into obscurity.

Rush, of course, knows this. But he’s a little too invested in the status quo to say it publicly.


4 posted on 05/29/2008 11:47:11 PM PDT by kms61
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He is absolutely right. It’s more reasonable and (yes) feasible to make the GOP into the conservatives’ party again by supporting conservative candidates in the primaries on all levels. We will march into political oblivion, if we continue to splinter our forces or waste them by supporting multiple small parties (Constitution, Conservative or Falcon Party) with absolutely no chance of ever winning anything.


8 posted on 05/29/2008 11:59:20 PM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support of Obama. Period.)
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I disagree with Rush on this. If McCain wins, and especially if he wins big, future Republicans will run on the same liberal issues as McCain figuring this is the only way they can win. In the end conservatives lose and lose big time. It doesn’t take many more RINOs to shut down conservativism.


10 posted on 05/30/2008 12:05:26 AM PDT by taxesareforever (We'll never forget Matt Maupin and his service to our country.)
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Rush is spot on. You don't win by capitulating, you win by digging in your heels and fighting to regain the territory you lost, then advancing.

These idiotic third partiers are running around FR like a bunch of petulant children threatening to hold their breath until they turn blue.

We had our big third party blow out in ‘92 with Perot. It got us the Clintons for eight years and if it wasn't for black barack running we'd be facing eight more.

Hell, if it wasn't for bill not being able to keep his penis in his pants we wouldn't even have a Bush presidency. That would make it 8 for bill, 8 for al and eight more for shrill.

24 years of dem control of the White House AND the Supreme Court because a bunch of bone headed conservatives had a hissy fit “to show the republican party they can't take out votes for granted”.

And now history repeats itself. People say the pubbies are the stupid party, I say conservatives are the stupid ideology. Sometimes I don't want to even get up in the morning due to conservatives being so freakin brain dead.

12 posted on 05/30/2008 12:13:06 AM PDT by Bob J
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I'm a conservative who is registered as an independent. If the republican party wants my vote they need to field conservative candidates...if they refuse, then a party who does will get my vote. I realize this view will engender accusations that it will be my fault if liberals are elected. That is not true. If liberals are elected it's because the republican party has failed conservatives...it will be the republican party's fault if Obama becomes president.
14 posted on 05/30/2008 12:18:52 AM PDT by highlander_UW (illegal alien is to an undocumented worker as a drug dealer is to an unlicensed pharmacist)
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What’s the point in saying that McCain should be the next POTUS because he’s for continuing the WOT when the next Congress will probably be such a socialistic majority in both Houses that the next Congress will just vote against and just overturn anything and everything that McCain wants done and needs to be done that involves the WOT as well as also voting against McCain on all other issues that the next Congress has disagreements with McCain about(such as having the socialistic U.S. Senate voting against any and all possible conservative judicial appointee candidates)? Whew! The political makeup of the next Congress will truly determine what happens with both the short-term and the long-term future of the U.S. as a country, and it’s truly more important than who the next POTUS is. This is why I don’t mind voting for Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party as a protest vote against both socialists Obama and McCain while also voting for any possible conservative choices for other political offices (such as voting for Jeff Beatty for U.S. Senate in Massachusetts). It’s truly almost impossible to vote for anybody who really is a conservative when talking about “blue” states like Massachusetts. I feel like I could name and count all conservatives who are still living in Massachusetts on just one hand! Even the “still very weak” Massachusetts GOP is mostly very leftist politically with a small handful of truly conservative Republicans still in existence.


20 posted on 05/30/2008 12:28:20 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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Well I understand what the guy is getting at, but just remember - the Republican party was a third party, once upon a time. A third party isn’t viable at the moment, but third, or even fourth parties, HAVE to be viable at some time, otherwise this representative democracy will be reduced to a same-choice popularity contest with as much intellectual content as “American Idol”.


26 posted on 05/30/2008 12:39:35 AM PDT by Vanders9
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I heard Rush today speak this.
I love Rush, and usually agree with him.
I understand his point about the third party not having any legislatures to back them up,

BUT......

I disagree strongly.

We need a protest vote against McCain for conservatives, and I have two suggestions.

I can NOT ....

I can only vote against McCain.
58 posted on 05/30/2008 1:31:00 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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“They work at magazines with a subscription of 60,000”


Fred Friggin Barnes...i despise that maggot.


70 posted on 05/30/2008 2:19:59 AM PDT by chasio649 (sick of it all)
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He’s wrong. I like listening to Rush, but he has always been something of a cheerleader for the GOP. While he’s been critical of the GOP in recent months, but doesn’t make the logical conclusion that the GOP is simply not a conservative political party. That’s not surprising. His show remains popular (and profitable) because it doesn’t go too far in biting the hand that feeds.

Conservatives are in denial. They want to believe that somehow the GOP is going to jump up and become the conservative political party that it briefly was under Ronald Reagan. It just isn’t going to happen. What conservative leadership that remains in the GOP is pretty much hamstrung.

The GOP is the Whig party of the 21st century. And that will become more evident after the election. But conservatives won’t believe that until they see the party completely and utterly defeated. And probably not even then. It’s kind of like watching the Monty Python “Dead Parrot” sketch, but with conservatives insisting that the GOP is merely pining for the fjords.


72 posted on 05/30/2008 3:05:57 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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Thank you for posting this transcript. I worked yesterday sans radio and Rush.
73 posted on 05/30/2008 3:06:31 AM PDT by MaggieCarta (This Space for Rent)
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The problems I could never vote for Obama/Hillary/McCain. Obama has his Rev. Wright problem. Hillary is manic and who can forget Bill's pardon of Rich, a pedophile, and dangerous radicals. IMO, McCain exhibits signs of a sociopath with mental problems. All three want amnesty - to sell out this country. All would be a disaster as POTUS.

This leaves only 3rd party unless a miracle happens such as McCain being forced out - the only one of GOP candidates for whom I could not hold my nose and vote.

89 posted on 05/30/2008 5:45:48 AM PDT by Dante3
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Neither are the two current so called major parties the way. Like the pied-piper they have gleefully led the nation into this depth of morass and corrupt principles and decadent way of life. Rush Limblows livelihood exists and thrives on confusion and fighting. I can remember my history, that the Republican Party once was the third party in this nation. They may just find themselves on the outside looking in once again.


97 posted on 05/30/2008 6:15:26 AM PDT by Ron H. (A lesser evil candidate is still an evil candidate even if it's a Republicrat!)
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The liberal Republicans have taken over the party.

Is the only way to shake these simpletons loose is to stand the party on its ear?

Rush, in my opinion, is an establishment Republican, rather like Sean ('You're a great American") Hannity. Elected Republicans closely resemble elected Democrats in that once they're elected they undergo some miraculous transformation into a zombie-like nitwit.

I've noticed that this week especially that Rush has ripped McCain apart.

We desperately needed a candidate and we don't have him.

101 posted on 05/30/2008 7:17:46 AM PDT by CWWren (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of congress....but I repeat myself.)
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A Third Party Isn't the Way

Sorry, but Rush is wrong on this. A third party is the only way.

Cthulhu for President!

Why settle for the Lesser Evil?

http://www.theelderparty.com
 

106 posted on 05/30/2008 8:49:01 AM PDT by zeugma (Mark Steyn For Global Dictator!)
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