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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I disagree with Rush on this. If McCain wins, and especially if he wins big, future Republicans will run on the same liberal issues as McCain figuring this is the only way they can win. In the end conservatives lose and lose big time. It doesn’t take many more RINOs to shut down conservativism.


10 posted on 05/30/2008 12:05:26 AM PDT by taxesareforever (We'll never forget Matt Maupin and his service to our country.)
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To: taxesareforever
future Republicans will run on the same liberal issues as McCain figuring this is the only way they can win. In the end conservatives lose and lose big time.

Wrong. Only if conservatives let them. The time to decide this is called primaries. Support conservatives in the primaries. That's the logical and intended way to go. The point is that this Presidential elections are the wrong time to "teach a lesson". We should have been united on one conservative in the primaries. We were split and McCain sailed through. He is our candidate now. If we want to prevent future RINOs, weed them out in the primaries. It's really not that difficult.

11 posted on 05/30/2008 12:10:13 AM PDT by SolidWood (Refusal to vote for McCain is active support of Obama. Period.)
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To: taxesareforever; All
"I disagree with Rush on this. If McCain wins, and especially if he wins big, future Republicans will run on the same liberal issues as McCain figuring this is the only way they can win. In the end conservatives lose and lose big time. It doesn’t take many more RINOs to shut down conservativism."

I assume you've been reading your fair share of articles on Barack Hussein Obama. Having said that, how in the world could you, for even one minute, ponder letting someone like that near the Oval Office? Were you around when Jimmy Carter was president? Think of Obama as President Carter, with less judgement, experience and military background, surrounded by the furthest left advisors in American history, while we're at war overseas and at home, energy prices are skyrocketing, housing is tanking and Congress is run by Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi!!

15 posted on 05/30/2008 12:18:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: taxesareforever

I have said for some time that McCain is the poison pill to Conservatism. Elect him and Conservatism goes from a movement to a theory.

If you have a leftist as the President of your ‘Conservative’ party, what happens? He rules as a leftist pushing leftist policy. The RNC won’t oppose him becaue he’s their meal ticket. The Republicans in Congress won’t oppose him because they want access to the White House and as much quid pro quo as they can get. McCain and the RNC then muscle the state Republican leaderships to support McCain’s agenda. Republicans on forums like this one fall in line behind the (R) at about 75 to 25%.

In one fell swoop, there is no mechanism to push Conservatism. McCain’s leftist policies will get Republican and Democrat support.

Nobody will submit Conservative bills. Even if they did, they’d be DOA. McCain would even veto some of them.

Anyone thinking Conservatism gets rebuilt in this atmosphere is dilusional.

If Obama is elected, Conservatism thrives. Republicans in Congress will oppose him. The Republican party will reach out to Conservatives to gain power. Conservatives will be welcomed to help rebuild. Congress would be ours in 2010.

The Democrats are afraid of Obama. If reasoned candidates with sound values are lofted, they’ll vote for them. After two years they’ll be looking for a way to check Obama as much as well will.

Don’t forget folks, in South Carolina 41% of those who voted for Hillary said they wouldn’t vote for Obama. If that is true, 2010 looks like the year we take Congress back.

Of course that’s if John McCain hasn’t rewritten the Republican Bible, with the Conservative ‘Old Testament’ left out by then. (Just political talk folks, no implication on the actual Bible should be seen as implied here.)


24 posted on 05/30/2008 12:36:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Votes to Pass Leftist Policy: McCain Senators 90, House 375 / Obama Senators 58, House 275.)
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To: taxesareforever
I disagree with Rush on this. If McCain wins, and especially if he wins big, future Republicans will run on the same liberal issues as McCain figuring this is the only way they can win. In the end conservatives lose and lose big time. It doesn’t take many more RINOs to shut down conservativism.

He doesn't disagree with you, but he's not going to put it that bluntly. There is no good outcome in November, and the only certainty is that the Republican party has to be rebuilt, and it's going to take living through some major hurt for that to happen. Rush is saying don't believe the hype that tells you otherwise.


83 posted on 05/30/2008 5:32:50 AM PDT by browardchad ("We are all mavericks now." -- Rush Limbaugh)
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