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Marines accused of proselytizing in Fallujah; gospel verse on coins
The Seattle Times ^ | 5/29/08 | Jamal Naji and Leila Fadel

Posted on 05/29/2008 11:11:57 AM PDT by XR7

FALLUJAH, Iraq — At the western entrance to the Iraqi city of Fallujah on Tuesday, Muamar Anad handed his residence badge to the U.S. Marines guarding the city. They checked to be sure he was a city resident, and when they were done, Anad said, a Marine slipped a coin out of his pocket and put it in his hand.

Out of fear, he accepted it, Anad said. When he was inside the city, the college student said, he looked at one side of the coin. "Where will you spend eternity?" it asked.

He flipped it over, and on the other side it read, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:16."

"They are trying to convert us to Christianity," said Anad, a Sunni Muslim like most residents of this city in Anbar province. At home, he told his story, and his relatives echoed their disapproval: They'd been given the coins, too, he said...

"Iraq is investigating a report that U.S. military personnel in Fallujah handed-out material that is religious and evangelical in nature," said Rear Adm. Patrick Driscoll, a U.S. military spokesman, in a statement e-mailed to McClatchy Newspapers. "Local commanders are investigating since the military prohibits proselytizing any religion, faith or practices."

Residents said some Marines at the western entrance to their city have been passing out the coins for two days in what they call a "humiliating" attempt to convert them to Christianity.

In the markets, people crowded around men with the coins, passing them to each other and asking in surprise: "Have you seen this?"

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: christianity; christiantroops; dajjal; dhimmi; dhimmiwatch; evangelism; fallujah; gospel; iraq; islam; jesus; marines; mullahs; religionofpeace; rop; usmc; wot
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Fallujah, the scene of a bloody U.S. offensive against Sunni insurgents in 2004, has calmed and grown less hostile to U.S. troops since residents turned against al-Qaida in Iraq. Now residents of the city are abuzz that some Americans who they consider occupiers are also acting as Christian missionaries.

Horrors!

The head of the Sunni endowment in Fallujah, the organization that oversees Sunni places of worship and other religious establishments, demanded the Marines stop...

How dare our Marines try to spread the good news that God is full of grace and that their sins can be forgioven and they do not have to engage in jihad to gain His favor!
Remember what St. Peter told the authorities?

The Authorities: "We gave you strict orders not to teach in this name!" he said. "Yet you have filled [Falujah] with your teaching..."
Peter and the other apostles replied: "We must obey God rather than men!"
* -- Acts 5:28-29 (NIV) paraphrased

Instead of imprinted coins, maybe the wisest thing would be to give the Iraqis food, some US dollars and a Bible printed in Arabic.
Do you suppose that might save some bullets, and some souls?
1 posted on 05/29/2008 11:17:05 AM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

Although I’m sympathietic to the Marines here, this really is a pretty stupid thing to be doing in Fallujah or anywhere else in Iraq while we’re trying to snuff out the insurgency and Mahdi Army threats.


2 posted on 05/29/2008 11:20:30 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: XR7
"They are trying to convert us to Christianity," said Anad, a Sunni Muslim like most residents of this city in Anbar province. At home, he told his story, and his relatives echoed their disapproval: They'd been given the coins, too, he said...

If your religion is so flimsy that you can get offended by someone handing you a coin with an inscription on it, you need a better religion.

Christians don't behead muslims when they say no.

3 posted on 05/29/2008 11:21:06 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: XR7

At this stage of the war, having just recently gained much cooperation from the Iraqi population, I don’t think this is a good idea! Right now, I don’t think alienating anyone is a useful, or wise, idea. Later? Yeah. But now, incidents like this will be turned against us as propaganda.


4 posted on 05/29/2008 11:21:20 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: XR7

No pictures of the coins? Godless heathens.


5 posted on 05/29/2008 11:23:34 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Dajjal; wardaddy; NYer

ping.


6 posted on 05/29/2008 11:23:49 AM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

Not a good idea. They are employees of the U.S. government and preaching the gospel is not part of their job description.

Soldiers with guns are not the ideal type to be preaching the gospel, no matter what their intentions. Better they should just be—literally—good Christian soldiers and pray that they are doing their part in spreading the gospel that way.


8 posted on 05/29/2008 11:26:22 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: XR7
And of course, it is HUMILIATING!!!!!!

sarc/

9 posted on 05/29/2008 11:27:25 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: XR7

Jamal Naji and Leila Fadel? I call “you know what”


10 posted on 05/29/2008 11:27:33 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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since the military prohibits proselytizing any religion, faith or practices."

My memory of scripture is a bit hazy I'm ashamed to say but doesn't it say someplace that Jesus said: They who acknowledge me in front of men so too will I acknowledge them before my Father in Heaven and those who deny me before me shall be denied Heaven? Something like that? I'd hate to be those "army officials" or Secretary of Defense or President responsible for that policy, come the Judgment!

11 posted on 05/29/2008 11:27:47 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Centurion2000

You expressed my sentiment exactly - pretty weak religion if you think someone will convert (to the truth) over a verse on a coin.

Why, just the other day, I was just on the verge of converting to Islam because someone posted a verse from the Koran. /sarc


12 posted on 05/29/2008 11:29:01 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: XR7
These are the coins they're passing out:

They come in over 50 different languages and you can get them for free.

13 posted on 05/29/2008 11:29:13 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Arthur McGowan
Not a good idea. They are employees of the U.S. government and preaching the gospel is not part of their job description.

Agreed. That's not what we sent them over there to do.

The job they and their fellows are being asked to is hard enough without them antagonizing the very locals we need to win over.

14 posted on 05/29/2008 11:33:01 AM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Where?


15 posted on 05/29/2008 11:33:24 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
They are employees of the U.S. government and preaching the gospel is not part of their job description

Bingo. They need to preach on their own time. In the case of a soldier in the middle of a deployment this means waiting until the deployment is over.
16 posted on 05/29/2008 11:33:28 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: XR7

But they like the coins that read “IN GOD WE TRUST”.


17 posted on 05/29/2008 11:34:08 AM PDT by 300magnum (God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it. D.Webster)
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To: XR7

Finally, some news out of Iraq. I thought the Democrat Media had forgotten all about it.


18 posted on 05/29/2008 11:34:15 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been banned or suspended.)
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To: MrB
Why, just the other day, I was just on the verge of converting to Islam because someone posted a verse from the Koran. /sarc

Me too ... of course the verse was on my toilet paper with an image of Mad-Piggly-Wiggly-Mo.

19 posted on 05/29/2008 11:34:27 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: XR7

” . . . the military prohibits proselytizing any religion, faith or practices.”

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Is that a rule for that theater of operations, or a general military rule?


20 posted on 05/29/2008 11:34:57 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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