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30 months in jail for broken gun (BATF gone wild)
World Net Daily ^

Posted on 05/29/2008 9:52:39 AM PDT by frankiep

WEAPONS OF CHOICE 30 months in jail for broken gun Judge hands down penalty for misfire from 20-year-old rifle

A federal judge has ordered a 30-month prison sentence for a man whose rifle misfired, letting loose three shots at a firing range, prompting 2nd Amendment supporters to warn their constituents how easily they, too, can become a "gun felon."

"It didn't matter the rifle in question had not been intentionally modified for select fire, or that it did not have an M16 bolt carrier or sear, that it did not show any signs of machining or drilling, or that that model had even been recalled a few years back," said a commentary in Guns Magazine on the case against David R. Olofson, of Berlin, Wis.

"It didn't matter the government had repeatedly failed to replicate automatic fire until they replaced the ammunition with a softer primer type. It didn't even matter that the prosecution admitted it was not important to prove the gun would do it again if the test were conducted today," the magazine said. "What mattered was the government's position that none of the above was relevant because '[T]here's no indication it makes any difference under the statute. If you pull the trigger once and it fires more than one round, no matter what the cause it's a machine gun.'

"No matter what the cause.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; bang; banglist; batf; batfe; blackrobedtyrants; bootthebatfe; charlesclevert; civilrights; constitution; davidolofson; jackbootedthugs; olofson; policestate; rapeofliberty
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To: mysterio
"Defund the ATF."

Defund Disband the ATF.

41 posted on 05/29/2008 12:10:44 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: TYVets
40 years later is the one time event of the unintentional results of the modified rife is still a crime?

It makes you at least a Terrorist.

42 posted on 05/29/2008 12:52:59 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: TLI

The Dishonorable “Judge” Charles Prevert sounds like Affirmative Action gone wild.

Should have stayed ijn Bankruptcy Court, since he is bankrupt in the brains department.


43 posted on 05/29/2008 12:53:31 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

With a Democrat President and Congress we WILL get the Fairness Doctrine resurrected as LAW rather than as mere regulatory power as before. And I strongly suspect it will be applied to the Internet. No more FR unless Jim Robinson is willing to move offshore.


44 posted on 05/29/2008 12:56:04 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Puppage

Can I have your pudding?


What does that mean in jail-speak?


45 posted on 05/29/2008 12:58:30 PM PDT by kenth (Just think, .000001783% of the population is screwing it all up for the rest of us.)
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To: kenth
Can I have your pudding?

What does that mean in jail-speak?

Nothing as far as I know. At dinner......I just want an extra pudding.

46 posted on 05/29/2008 1:05:53 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: frankiep
Pay particular attention to Item 7 and Item 10 and Item 12 and Item 13 and Item 17. Read those items over thoroughly. Olofson had installed a 3-position M16 selector, which is a real no no. Whatever else was installed or modified internally is known only to the immediate participants.

A stock factory AR15 was modified with an M16 selector at the very least, and quite likely other parts changed or modified. This is a federal crime.

This is an issue that NOBODY concerned about this case will acknowledge or admit to. Instead, everyone goes into Hyper Rant Mode about Second Amendment issues and JBT's.

The sad fact is, he illegally modified an AR15 and loaned it out to some nimrod who didn't have enough sense to leave that third selector position alone at a public range.


47 posted on 05/29/2008 1:28:29 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: arthurus

I think by then it will be time for another “tea party”.


48 posted on 05/29/2008 1:30:37 PM PDT by coydog (Keep Canada green - paint a Liberal!)
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To: Dumpster Baby

Very impressive. But you’re missing the point.
Why exactly is this a crime? On what basis does the BATF have the right to circumvent the Constitutionally protected right to bear arms in order to prosecute people?

Defend this all you want, but the fact remains that the BATF is an unConstitutional, out of control agency that really has no other reason for existence other than to hassle and prosecute citizens who are harming no one.


49 posted on 05/29/2008 1:44:17 PM PDT by frankiep (Democrats base their ideology on the premise that you are too stupid to do anything for yourself.)
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To: frankiep

Anyone seen any comments from the NRA or GOA, JPFO etc on this case ? Their silence is deafening.

What say they ?


50 posted on 05/29/2008 1:52:52 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: frankiep
Oh, I agree 100% that the BATF is out of control, and is enforcing unconstitutional laws. I fully believe the 2A says what it means and means what it says.

Where I diverge from most folks is that I'm not an absolutist on this issue. The real world around us intrudes, with millions of violence prone citizens whose daily mayhem would only dramatically increase if everyone and anyone could just walk into a gun store and buy all the cheap automatic weapons they wanted, like the absolutists want.

The reality is that these laws exist and violating them in such a stupid and flagrant way will end life as you know it. These two assclowns messed up in a big way, period. Nobody wants to acknowledge that fact, and instead launch themselves into orbit with rants about "broken guns".

This gun was not "broken", it was "illegally modified" and then taken to a public range to demonstrate the nature of the illegal modifications. Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.

51 posted on 05/29/2008 1:55:08 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: Dumpster Baby

100% Correct. The weapon was modified. I own an AR and am not sure what the “bolt was filed down” meant. Filing the bolt will not produce full auto fire. The 3 position selector is what got him.


52 posted on 05/29/2008 2:15:27 PM PDT by MGBGUN (Freedom is not free.)
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To: frankiep

Does this mean that “Bump Firing” is illegal???


53 posted on 05/29/2008 2:59:27 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: WildcatClan
Here is another article on this case...

Automatic gun transfer nets prison sentence

Here are some key excerpts...

According to court records, Kiernicki turned the rifle's firing selector to the third position, pulled the trigger, and three bullets fired with each pull. Then the weapon jammed. The automatic gunfire was reported to police, who contacted the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

Kiernicki testified Olofson told him the third position was for automatic firing, but it jammed, court records indicate. He also testified Olofson told him he had fired the weapon on the automatic setting at that same range without a problem, according to the records.

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Haanstad said Olofson had provided weapons and ammunition to so many people he couldn't keep track. A search of his home turned up books on converting rifles to fully automatic, and e-mail on his computer showed he bought M-16 parts, records show.

Olofson had contact with vigilante groups and professed to be part of the sovereign movement, which doesn't acknowledge federal laws as applying to them, Haanstad said.

54 posted on 05/29/2008 3:27:19 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: beltfed308
You wrote: "What is the status of the open bolt semi MAC 10 and Mac 11s that are floating around out there?"

Check this out.

Semper Fi
An Old Man

55 posted on 05/29/2008 5:19:45 PM PDT by An Old Man ("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
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To: investigateworld

A certain corrupt Sheriff was found in San Bernardino with a stolen and unlicensed or registered/taxed M2 machine gun. BATF&E didn't even file a case.


And then there's this:

Bloggers attack feds after agent forgets gun in airport: 'Officer made a willful illegal transfer of a firearm to a prohibited person or persons'

56 posted on 05/29/2008 6:31:13 PM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: EdReform; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...


Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
57 posted on 05/29/2008 7:11:51 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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bfl


58 posted on 05/29/2008 7:38:28 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: frankiep

Frankiep, it is going to rapidly get much worse and not any better.

Both political parties are working on a voting base that will vote for whoever will promise to give them the most free things and not give a damn what happens to the Country afterward.

For the Government to give one something that something must be taken from someone else.

When one robs Peter to pay Paul, one can always count on Paul’s support.

We are rapidly turming into a Nation of producers and parasites. As it now stands the producers are rapidly becoming the minority.


59 posted on 05/29/2008 7:54:40 PM PDT by sport
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To: frankiep
Don't go to the ranges.

Too many rules.

Too many eyes.

60 posted on 05/29/2008 8:25:47 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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