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Hadrian's Curse: The Secret All The Arabs Know
Jewish Press ^ | -22-08 | Tsafrir Ronen

Posted on 05/22/2008 6:54:57 PM PDT by SJackson

Hadrian's Curse: The Secret All The Arabs Know

At the Annapolis Conference, President Bush spoke about his vision regarding the virtues of two nations for two peoples.

One of those peoples – the Jewish people – has a clear identity. Yet it would be interesting to know the identity of the second people. Already in 1977, a central spokesman of that “second people” (a PLO leader, Zahir Muhsein, head of the as-Sa’iqa Organization) revealed the truth in an interview to the Dutch newspaper Trouw. Here are his words:

“The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the State of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism for tactical reasons. Jordan, a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa. As a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”

Are you in shock? If the Palestinian people do not exist, what does exist? Arabs who live in Eretz Yisrael, and who have disguised themselves as“Palestinians” for fraudulent purposes. “Only a means for continuing our struggle against the State of Israel” – in Muhsein’s words. A fraud so successful that even George W. Bush can be found seeking a state for that fraud!

Do you think Zahir Muhsein is alone? This transparent fraud about the so-called existence of Palestine is revealed to us by all Arab leaders.

In 1974, the late Syrian President, Hafez al-Assad,declared, “It would be fitting for us to mention to the responsible Israeli authorities that we view Palestine not just as an inseparable part of the Arab nation, but also as a part of southern Syria.” In 1987 he reiterated this at a conference in Amman by saying, “A country named ‘Palestine’ has never existed.” Jordan’s King Hussein responded, “The appearance of the national Palestinian persona serves as a response to Israel’s claim that Palestine is Jewish.”

Yet the prize goes to Yasir Arafat who, in 1970 with candid simplicity, told the reporter Arianna Palazzi, “The question of borders doesn’t interest us… From the Arab standpoint, we mustn’t talk about borders. Palestine is nothing but a drop in an enormous ocean. Our nation is the Arabic nation that stretches from the Atlantic Ocean to the Red Sea and beyond it… The PLO is fighting Israel in the name of Pan-Arabism. What you call ‘Jordan’ is nothing more than Palestine.”

Such revelations are an eye-opener for anyone who has not understood until now the masked ball being run by the Arabs. The true meaning of Arafat’s words – that Palestine is Jordan – is that for the Arabic people living under the “Pan-Arab” umbrella, in addition to over 20 Arabic countries, there is already a country called Jordan that was established by the British for the Arabs on 78 percent of the Land of Israel. This is land promised to the Jewish people by the League of Nations in 1922.

Anywhere else on earth, could an additional country be established for a people that already has 21 countries?

All the same, there is nothing like the testimony of a PLO founder, Ahmed Shukari. Already in 1956 he proclaimed from the UN podium, as the Arab League’s ambassador there, “Such a creature as Palestine does not exist at all. This land is nothing but the southern portion of Greater Syria…”

And if Ahmed Shukari says that Palestine does not exist at all, the logical inference is that “Palestinians” also do not exist. That same Shukari was born to a Turkish mother in Lebanon, was a Jordanian lawyer, served as the Syrian ambassador to the UN, the Arab League’s ambassador to the UN, and the Saudi’s UN ambassador. In 1964, after this talented actor who changed loyalties like a chameleon was fired by the Saudis, Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser hired him to found the PLO, an organization dedicated to the “liberation” of a country that – in his own words – did not even exist.

All the prominent spokesmen of that poor, homeless “people” openly say the following: The Arabs who live in Eretz Yisrael are precisely the same Arabs who live in Syria, Jordan or Lebanon. They are not a separate country, but a fragment of the enormous Arab nation divided among many Arab countries. In their identity they are Arabs, and the invention of Palestine is just a transparent bluff – a means for continuing our struggle against the State of Israel for our Arab unity.

Can any testimony be better than that of the Arabs themselves, by exposing the lies and deceptions involved in Palestine’s creation?

Yet the most compelling argument for the idea that the “Palestinian people” is a fraudulent invention (and that the Arabs are all one people) was expounded by none other than Mr. Husseini, head of the Supreme Arab Committee to the UN special committee that was deliberating on Eretz Yisrael in 1947. Here are his words:

“An additional consideration of great importance for the Arab world is racial uniformity. The Arabs lived in a broad expanse stretching from the Mediterranean Sea to the Indian Ocean. They spoke one language, and shared a common history, tradition and aspirations. Their unity was the solid foundation for peace in one of the most central and sensitive regions in the world. For that reason, it does not make sense that the United Nations should facilitate the establishment of a foreign entity within that well-rooted unity.”

Indeed, Husseini is correct. His declaration before the UN’s investigative committee exposes the simple fact that there is no “Palestinian” language and no unique “Palestinian” culture. The Palestinians are Arabs, and they cannot be set apart from the Jordanians, Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc.

Remove from the argument the lies, and you reveal that the conflict is taking place between the Arabic, Muslim empire of 21 states and the Jewish people – claiming their right to their one and only historic homeland, consisting of less than one fifth of one percentof the lands under Arab control.

This is the twisted story of the biggest, most unprecedented fraud in history. It involves such a successful bluff that many people have no doubt about its veracity. This propaganda has become a powerful weapon whereby Israel’s enemies, the Arabs, are trying to conquer Eretz Yisrael without firing a shot – and without an army, tanks or jets

Hadrian's Curse: The Arabs' Ultimate Goal (Part II)

Following the Six-Day War, the Arab countries, defeated by a small country determined to survive, understood that Israel would be unbeatable militarily. They understood that the Israeli Samson could only be vanquished through the cunning of the Philistine Delilah. And that’s what happened. Henceforth there would be no more cries firing up the masses to genocide but, instead, a complex melody – carefully aimed at the delicate western ear. The Arabs discovered that it was easier to convince the world of the rights of the poor, small, deprived “Palestinian people” to its own state than to justify the demand of the enormous Arab empire for more territory from a tiny country fighting for its life.

The Palestinian people are a deliberate fabrication of Arab countries defeated in battle, a “Trojan horse” for conquering Eretz Yisrael, as Faisal Husseini said after the Oslo Accords.

So was born the worldwide propaganda campaign that turned matters on their head. The Israeli “David” and Arab “Goliath” begot an Israeli “Goliath” oppressing a Palestinian “David.” The object was to blot out the name and identity of ancient, Biblical Eretz Yisrael, and to turn it into “Palestinian” land.

This lie gained such a strong foothold in the media and the bastions of liberalism that no one has paid any attention to the simple truths spoken openly by Zahir Muhsein, Hafez al-Assad, Ahmed Shukari, King Hussein or Yasir Arafat.

Through brainwashing, fabrications and taking advantage of the world’s ignorance and the international media’s superficiality, a process has been going on in broad daylight for several dozen years of rewriting history. As Goebbels and Hitler, the arch propagandists of the 20th century, said derisively, the bigger the lie, the more people will believe in it.

Feeding the Palestinian lie will put an end to the identity of Eretz Yisrael, and we, in turn, will lose our right to the Land. For if there are “Palestinians,” that means there is also a land called Palestine – and if there is a Palestine, there is no Eretz Yisrael.

The worst part of this is that many Israeli Jews have themselves fallen into the propaganda trap, and it is they who are letting in the Trojan horse that will destroy our Land’s identity. This war is not being waged by means of weapons and armies, or over physical territory. It is being waged on the battlefields of awareness of the Land’s identity. The Roman name “Philistia” was a fiction invented by the Roman emperor Hadrian after the Bar Kochba Revolt in 135 C.E., a fiction of Hadrian then and a fiction – to the same degree – of the Arabs today.

It is a fabrication that represents no people, not then and not today. It was conceived for one purpose only, namely to wipe out a land’s identity. If the land is called Palestine, the Jewish people are occupiers. If it is called Eretz Yisrael, the Arabs are occupiers.

The Palestinian identity is tactical, artificial and temporary, just a tool in the pan-Arab struggle against Israel. The amazing thing is that it’s all out in the open. Section 12 of the Palestinian charter, with these words, summarizes the idea of this temporary identity:

“The Palestinian people believe in Arab unification. It believes that in order to achieve this goal, it must, at this stageof its national struggle, preserve all the components of its Palestinian persona, increase awareness of its existence and reject all plans liable to weaken it or make it disappear.”

Are there another people in the world that writes in its charter the expression, “at this stage?” And what will be in the next stage? Obviously after conquering Israel, the territory will be divided between Arab countries, and those Arab countries will throw Palestine into the dustbin of history.

As Arafat said, the Palestinian people are a fiction. The same goes for the Jordanian people, and all the other Arabic-speaking peoples in the Middle East. They have no separate identities, but are part of the great Arab nation. By their self-definition, they cannot be divided into a number of peoples with individual identities. Rather they constitute one nation consisting of many states, as Arafat himself said in an incautious moment.

For the sophisticated Saudis, with their Saudi Peace Plan, it is clear that its purpose is not to actualize the rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination – for no such people exist. They conceal the truth that the great Arab nation has already actualized its right to self-determination by establishing a large number of countries, one of which extends over about 78 percent of the area of mandatory Eretz Yisrael. For the Arabs, exploding with laughter over the West’s foolishness, it is clear that if an additional Arab state arises in the western portion of Eretz Yisrael, it will not serve the right of self-determination, but rather the demand of imperial conquest of all of Eretz Yisrael by the Arab nation. Is George W. Bush & Co. dragging Israel to its destruction?

The Palestinian lie is exposed precisely when we listen to authentic Arab voices. The prominent Arab historian, Dr. Philip Hitti, expressed himself as follows at the 1947 Anglo-American commission of inquiry at the State Department: “Sir, Palestine never existed throughout history. Absolutely not!”

Professor Juhan Hazam, testifying at that same commission, said, “Before 1917, when Balfour made his declaration, there had never been a Palestinian question, and there was no Palestine as a political or geographic unit.”

A local Arab leader, Abd al-Mahdi, testifying before the 1937 Peel Commission, said, “There is no such land. Palestine is a term invented by the Zionists. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our land was for hundreds of years a part of Syria.”

Were there the slightest truth to the claim regarding the historicity of a Palestinian people, we should certainly have expected to find it mentioned in the history books, encyclopedias and archaeological research.

Next: Will Israel Finish Hadrian’s Work?

Tsafrir Ronen is a member of the secular kibbutz, Ein Charod. He is a media personality, serves in the elite army unit, Sayeret Matkal, and was one of the founders of the Nahalal Forum on Behalf of the Entire Eretz Yisrael. He is presently preparing a documentary film on the Arab/Palestine myth.

TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; arabs; dhimmiwatch; hadrian; israel; jewhaters; jihad; palestine; palestinian; palestinians; transjordan
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1 posted on 05/22/2008 6:54:57 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
DNA tests show a different situation. The Jews, per se, are not terribly different from the Arabs in the area. Even the Iranian people seem to be of the same genetic background as the Arabs ~ but they speak Indo European languages due to some obscure pre-historic ancient conquest.

At the same time there are "others" living in the midst of the Arabic sea who really are different.

The Druze, for example, have an anomalously high percentage of the "X Factor" found mostly in the Sa'ami, Chippawa and Berber people.

There are some areas with substantial Central Asian backgrounds.

Whatever was believed in 1977 about the ethno-history and genetic background of Middle Eastern populations has to be set aside now in the light of better information.

2 posted on 05/22/2008 7:02:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High Volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel. or WOT [War on Terror]


3 posted on 05/22/2008 7:02:35 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: SJackson

Interesting reading like this is what led me to ask you to place me on your ping list.

Thanks for posting this. I am emailing this one to lots of folks.

4 posted on 05/22/2008 7:06:52 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: muawiyah
The Jews, per se, are not terribly different from the Arabs in the area


Genetic testing shows Jews to be different from the Arabs.
We are closest to the Kurdish people .

5 posted on 05/22/2008 7:07:06 PM PDT by hecht
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6 posted on 05/22/2008 7:07:22 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: muawiyah
Even the Iranian people seem to be of the same genetic background as the Arabs ~ but they speak Indo European languages due to some obscure pre-historic ancient conquest

Wrong again!!!!

Genetic testing shows Iranians to be genetically similar to other Indo-europeans, and less with neighboring Arabs

7 posted on 05/22/2008 7:13:11 PM PDT by hecht
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To: muawiyah
DNA tests show a different situation.

The author is addressing culture. There is no distinct palestinian culture or heritage, distinct from their Arab brothers. Heck, 80 years ago they were complaining about their separation from Syria, French rather than British control.

DNA aside, Iranians, aka the original Aryans, formerly Persians for a few millenia, wouldn't appreciate being referred to as Arabs.

DNA aside, I've heard I'm 93% gorilla, I think the author was addressing cultural and political traditions. And for the palestinians, those are essentially Arab traditions.

8 posted on 05/22/2008 7:14:28 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: girlangler

Thanks. As you know it’s not a huge interest, but I’ll probably go fishing this weekend.

9 posted on 05/22/2008 7:15:32 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: hecht
You'll need to provide a URL for that one. Last report I read was in Science News and it reported that the general, run of the mill, ordinary people in Iran were essentially the same as the Arab speaking people in immediately adjacent Iraq.

It would be difficult to believe genetic separation in that area could be maintained over the 6,000 or so years civilization has been extant there. Just the common trade in brides for cows would have mixed them up.

10 posted on 05/22/2008 7:16:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SJackson

You are correct. Jordan was created to be the Palestine state. I think the British called it Trans-jordan. Very well articulated. Especially where you state the whole world even the Israeli’s have not bought into the Myth of the Palestinians.

11 posted on 05/22/2008 7:19:49 PM PDT by ncfool (Savage said that Islam is a Peaceful religion. Your very peaceful after they slit your throat!)
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To: SJackson
thanks, for the post/thread...this post, only confirms my belief (held for >25 years) this is Arab nationalism / cloaked in religion (Radical Islam)....the Arab Governments in 1948 "encouraged" the PaliArabs' to leave ALL their possessions/property, while their *smirk* "Arab Brothers, wiped-out" the Israeli....history (so far) has prove them wrong.....

what Arabs have not achieved in war, the Socialist-Marxist Jews may achieve "in peace"....the complete destruction of the Israeli State.

12 posted on 05/22/2008 7:21:46 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid,doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you..our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: muawiyah
#2 - Thanks for the data, friend. DNA examination worldwide is showing some surprising things.

If I discuss African DNA again, I'll get banned .............. FRegards

13 posted on 05/22/2008 7:27:06 PM PDT by gonzo ( What Part Of "Shall Not Be Infringed" does anyone have a problem with? The USSC will soon wonder ..)
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To: SJackson
Whatever the author was addressing he was quoting an Arab, and the Arab was approaching it from a totally different direction ~ he, in fact, (hidden from most because of its obscurity) was making a claim that Syria, Lebanon and Israel were ALL property of the "True Arabs" ~ a distinct ethnic group found mostly in the Arabian Peninsula up to the time of Mohammad.

He delegitimized any claims by Arabicized people in the Middle East to any part of the Levant except as that might be allowed by descendants of the "True Arabs" ~ the folks who currently run Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

I thought it was interesting he was willing to cough up some legitimacy for the Palestinians ~ 'cause usually the "True Arabs" think of them as little different than any of the other Arabicized people in the region.

So, yes, genetic testing is in order if only to figure out what the differences are between the "True Arabs" and anybody else around there. Depending on "culture" and "history" will not satisfy the demands of the "True Arabs" to dominate the area (even if they did so for only a short while in the early period of the Arab Empire).

Being a Hashemite is such a burden for some of these guys you'd almost feel sorry for them if you didn't know they'd bring back slavery in an instant if the rest of the world would just disappear.

Back on the Iranians, there's a book out showing differences in 6 populations in Iran. Still, the greater part of the people are essentially the same as the Iraqi Arabs in the South. They simply speak a different language.

14 posted on 05/22/2008 7:28:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ncfool
One of the all time best books on the general subject is .....

15 posted on 05/22/2008 7:29:03 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: SJackson
The Hebrew word "Ploshtim" - means invader. The ancient Phillistines were a people from the islands - probably bronze age Greeks. They had nothing in common with the Jews and as fast as they settled in Eretz Israel, they later disappeared from history without a recorded trace. Nothing is known of their exact identity, culture and language. There never was and will be be a "Palestine" in history. The Roman Emperor Hadrian may have thwarted Jewish efforts to regain national independence but even he could only give the land the Romans occupied the name of a long extinct people. And so it is the present day Palestinians have no original, authentic identity of their own.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

16 posted on 05/22/2008 7:39:45 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: hecht
The Jews, Arabs, Kurds, Iranians and other groups in the Middle East arise out of an Eastern Mediterranean "refugia".

These "refugia" are where the Ice Age European people were driven during periods of peak glaciation. There are 3 such "refugia" in the Western Mediterranean and the people whose ancestors lived there have differences from the others.

The Ice Age was tough on the Europeans!

17 posted on 05/22/2008 7:43:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I admit the DNA aspects are fascinating, but imo irrelevant. In recent centuries the Turks have the best claim, but they picked the wrong side early last century. No more Romans, Crusaders weren't organized well enough, so we're left with who, and it's not Arabs

I admit i don't consider that claim any more legitimate than the DNA issue.

The Turks lost the war, new nations, a whole bunch not just Israel, were created. That's about it.

18 posted on 05/22/2008 7:45:47 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: gonzo
You may get banned again, but the latest deal seems to be signs of a "remigration" from Europe back to Africa some time during the Ice Age.

Haven't looked at it closely, but it definitely upsets everybody's applecart!

19 posted on 05/22/2008 7:45:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: goldstategop

I think in these desert countries the guys who live on the shorelines get to name the territory with those in the hinterlands (e.g. up in the mountains) just having to go along with it.

20 posted on 05/22/2008 7:48:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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