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To: muawiyah
DNA tests show a different situation.

The author is addressing culture. There is no distinct palestinian culture or heritage, distinct from their Arab brothers. Heck, 80 years ago they were complaining about their separation from Syria, French rather than British control.

DNA aside, Iranians, aka the original Aryans, formerly Persians for a few millenia, wouldn't appreciate being referred to as Arabs.

DNA aside, I've heard I'm 93% gorilla, I think the author was addressing cultural and political traditions. And for the palestinians, those are essentially Arab traditions.

8 posted on 05/22/2008 7:14:28 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: SJackson
Whatever the author was addressing he was quoting an Arab, and the Arab was approaching it from a totally different direction ~ he, in fact, (hidden from most because of its obscurity) was making a claim that Syria, Lebanon and Israel were ALL property of the "True Arabs" ~ a distinct ethnic group found mostly in the Arabian Peninsula up to the time of Mohammad.

He delegitimized any claims by Arabicized people in the Middle East to any part of the Levant except as that might be allowed by descendants of the "True Arabs" ~ the folks who currently run Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

I thought it was interesting he was willing to cough up some legitimacy for the Palestinians ~ 'cause usually the "True Arabs" think of them as little different than any of the other Arabicized people in the region.

So, yes, genetic testing is in order if only to figure out what the differences are between the "True Arabs" and anybody else around there. Depending on "culture" and "history" will not satisfy the demands of the "True Arabs" to dominate the area (even if they did so for only a short while in the early period of the Arab Empire).

Being a Hashemite is such a burden for some of these guys you'd almost feel sorry for them if you didn't know they'd bring back slavery in an instant if the rest of the world would just disappear.

Back on the Iranians, there's a book out showing differences in 6 populations in Iran. Still, the greater part of the people are essentially the same as the Iraqi Arabs in the South. They simply speak a different language.

14 posted on 05/22/2008 7:28:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SJackson
There is no distinct palestinian culture or heritage, distinct from their Arab brothers.

Not very distinct from their fellow Shaami people, but distinct from the rest of the Arab world. This land, Jordan, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Palestine, is known as ash-Sham, land of the sun. The Palestinian culture is part of this group of cultures & dialects. Shaami culture is distinct from the other Arab cultures that can be divided into groups like khaleej, maghreb, jazeera. Gulf, North Africa, Peninsula. No one would mistake a Palestinian for a Maghrebi or a Maghrebi for a Khaleeji. The Palestinian would even have real trouble understanding the dialect of the Maghrebi. You can pick out a Palestinian from other Shaami people by their dialect, but their speech is mutually intelligible for the most part.

What this means is that Palestinians need to be expelled into one of the surrounding countries for good & Israel must force the countries to assimilate them. No more refugee camp crap. Expelling them into Kuwait or Qatar will not work as they will stick out & have lots of trouble being assimilated.

21 posted on 05/22/2008 7:48:36 PM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: SJackson
DNA aside, I've heard I'm 93% gorilla, ...

I dunno about you, but my in-laws certainly are........

26 posted on 05/22/2008 8:14:28 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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