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1 posted on 05/22/2008 3:07:09 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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One great thing about the USA is the opportunity for upward mobility. There are many, many examples of families where the grandparents may not have finished high school, the parents were blue-collar high school graduates and the children graduated from college.


35 posted on 05/22/2008 3:37:24 PM PDT by bluegirl
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INTREP - L’Chaim


37 posted on 05/22/2008 3:38:20 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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This puke is full of dung.


39 posted on 05/22/2008 3:39:59 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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I guess he also needs to define “working class” ... isn’t anyone who works for a living considered working class people? From a million dollar a year CEO to say a fast food worker is working for a living hence “working class”. Maybe people like him live off (parasite comes to mind) the working class so he can do his idiotic studies .....


40 posted on 05/22/2008 3:40:13 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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My collar is brown, but then I wash my shirt.


41 posted on 05/22/2008 3:40:24 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (I'll pray for celebrities as soon as they start praying for me!)
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IF he's going to make such a statement, he must include the lower classes of the negro persuasion or else the study is racist. However, limiting it to whites, he may gain acceptance from liberals who despise the working class.
45 posted on 05/22/2008 3:42:53 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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Ah...subjective advocacy science for us, to teach us to better respect our most honorable business and political leaders.

BTW, oil prices continue to generally rise, while the dollar falls. May the revenues—and consequently, the seeds—of our henpecked, enemy-appeasing, sexually confused masters dry up for ever and ever. May their preferred communist slaves in east Asia someday rule over them and do whatever is necessary to crush their vanities into humilities. LOL!

[Nonpolitical politics is not pretty, but that’s what is needed to correct the situation.]


49 posted on 05/22/2008 3:43:50 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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Everybody is an “idiot” and “elitist” who doesn’t subscribe to the insane American religion of egalitarianism. Yeah, sure, “all people are the same the world over”, Dr. Maslow.


52 posted on 05/22/2008 3:48:02 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (I'll pray for celebrities as soon as they start praying for me!)
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I’m glad I’m not an Alpha. Alphas have to work soooo hard thinking all day.

I’m glad that I’m a Beta. I’m better than a Delta, and better than a Gamma.

I’m glad to be a Beta.


53 posted on 05/22/2008 3:48:49 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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WORKING-CLASS students have lower IQs than those from wealthier backgrounds and should not be expected to win places at top universities, an academic has claimed. Bruce Charlton, an evolutionary psychiatrist at Newcastle University, has written a paper asserting the reason why fewer students from poor families are admitted to Oxford or Cambridge is not because of social prejudice, but lack of ability.

Well . . . as long as they're "crackers," anyway.

54 posted on 05/22/2008 3:50:05 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Im-bechuqqotay telekhu; ve'et-mitzvotay tishmeru, va`asiytem 'otam.)
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Working class - stupid
People who don’t work - smart
Huh?


58 posted on 05/22/2008 3:53:37 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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This is an old article or a rehash.


59 posted on 05/22/2008 3:56:53 PM PDT by RightWhale (You are reading this now)
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Working classes are less intelligent, says evolution expert

That must be the case, our "working class" supporting The Beast.

60 posted on 05/22/2008 3:58:44 PM PDT by Anticommie
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Horse feathers! I work with PhDs from China, Bangladesh, and other 3rd world places who grew up in mud huts and they are the brightest of the brightest and went to top U.S. schools.
63 posted on 05/22/2008 4:05:02 PM PDT by avacado
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since Democrats market themselves as “The Party Of The Working Class®,” doesn’t this study mean that they’re the party of dumb people?

That is precisely what liberals think, which is why they want to set up a system where they, as the intellectual superiors, will make all the decisions.

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67 posted on 05/22/2008 4:09:43 PM PDT by ETL
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Bunk
I’ve met more than one child of the wealthy who wasn’t to bright but managed to do quite well for themselves and I worked for a guy that became a millionaire from pure hard work an innate ability to delegate and complete lack of ethics and morals


68 posted on 05/22/2008 4:09:47 PM PDT by grjr21
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If there were a single gene, or a relatively small set of genes that determined overall intelligence, this theory might make sense. However, that does not appear to be the case and, as a result, smart people sometimes have stupid kids and stupid people some times have smart kids. Children of smart parents will have an edge in terms of environmental factors, because they will most likely be exposed to more intellectually stimulating things than the kids of stupid people, not to mention they probably receive better physical and nutritional care (although not guaranteed), and they will have greater expectations put on them, but it is no guarantee that they will actually be smart.

Most likely, those smart kids who are born into poverty end up succeeding in one way or another, and thus move out of the "working class" category.

One ironic thing about the term "working class": it is used in the US quite often as a substitute for "poor", but an unhealthy percentage of our poor people do not actually work.
74 posted on 05/22/2008 4:23:39 PM PDT by fr_freak (So foul a sky clears not without a storm.)
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IQ makes for a great discussion topic but the measure of a man is his character and whether or not he’ll do the right thing.

Of course, it’s a given that working class people have a lower IQ and will give birth to lower IQ’d children.

As long as some lefty (or American Democrat) doesn’t start advocating for forced sterilization, I’m okay with anything the academics have to say on the subject.

If you understood the concept of private property and if our laws protected private property with the tenacity and integrity the Founding Fathers intended, the lower IQ’d citizens would have nothing to fear.

America is still a meritocracy. The low IQ’d citizen can still achieve his goals in life. In Britain, if you score low on the state administered IQ tests, you won’t be admitted into higher education at all, much less Oxford.

Yours truly,
The Woim


84 posted on 05/22/2008 4:40:52 PM PDT by The Woim (Respect private property. Abolish 40% of the govt and encourage tax consumers to stop.)
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Obviously an elitist, liberal position. He might even think some of us are bitter.


95 posted on 05/22/2008 5:34:21 PM PDT by libbylu
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This has liberalism painted all over it.... group think and group protection. What good are their IQ tests anyway? IQ tests do NOT measure character or integrity as I have read that old Bill Clinton has a particularly high IQ, not company I would personally find a desire to be numbered. I am also reading those of upper IQ ratings are Obama supporters. Old Hillary also famed to be the smartest woman on this earth is connecting with the old people, and uneducated worker class.

Lord McCain who is second to none in his personal presentation of himself on this planet, does NOT indicate any elements of having higher than average IQ. And he got to his present position with the votes of liberals and supposed independents also known as the moderate elites....

So what is the literal point of IQ measurements when the results seem to indicate it is more about bragging rights than any self accomplished achievement?

I have found it is cheaper to hire a lawyer than a plumber, so who is the ‘smarter’ of the two professions. What about all those unionized workers, I have been told to hope that any thing I purchase was not made on a Friday or a Monday by unionized workers.

Given what places like Harvard and Yale etc., produce, Obamas and Clintons what good is their reputation anymore anyway.

97 posted on 05/22/2008 5:41:19 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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