Posted on 05/19/2008 5:35:51 AM PDT by Dukes Travels
Conservatives don’t love John McCain, but unless they’re considering abandoning their cause with Atlas Shrugged proportions, there’s no way in hell they’ll vote for Barack Obama.
Sometimes, things have to get worse before they get better. And with that idea in mind, the conservative movement really is America’s crutch.
The most specific example is economics, as conservatives constantly preach lower taxes and greater individual freedom. One would think that the Bush tax cuts, which have yielded continued economic growth (yes, our economy is growing, despite the lies you keep hearing), and the burgeoning economy during the Reagan Administration would provide enough proof to, at the very least, convince people that maybe, just maybe, there’s something to be said for lower taxes.
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Vehemently disagree.
McCain would be more damaging to conservatism than Obama. The next 2-4 years are going to be very, very hard. Regardless of who gets elected. However, the man in charge takes the blame.
McCain will be up against a 70 vote majority house and filibuster proof senate. Anyone who thinks a conservative judge will get through is smoking crack. And its entirely possible they’ll defund the war anyway. So what would we end up with? A global warming believing, gitmo closing-captured terrorist coddling, tax hiking (and lying), free speech suppressing, angry socialist.
VR shrugs.
“Free Trade” conservatives already shrugged, by exporting America’s factories and manufacturing to Communist China.
Atlas cannot shrug, twice. Atlas no longer holds those pillars. Those pillars are now being held up by factory owners named Wang, and Li.
Either conservatives get back to Reagan’s brand of blue-collar conservatism, or democrats will win perpetually from here on.
/rant off
Obama would be more damaging to America.
You can always smell a McCainiac a mile away. It's the smug odor that screams shut up, sit down, and grow up. Besides, this guy doesn't even look old enough to vote, much less castigate conservatives for not supporting a liberal weenie like McCain.
If I even thought about voting for Juan as the proverbial lesser of two evils, that went flying out the window after his pandering global warming speech last week.
It's third party for me, or, nobody.
Just about time to go Gulching for a few years.............
McCain does not want conservative support, he is actively courting RINOs and liberal-leftists instead. Not attracting conservative votes was his decision, not mine.
This same argument has been posted countless times in the last several weeks. The author of the article makes so many false or half truth statments that it’s hard to say where to start. Let McCain go his own way. I will take no part in voting for him.
Exactly. He has insulted me repeatedly. To go and vote for him and make nice would be acting like a battered wife.
I know that’s probably an over-the-top comparison but it’s all I can think of right now.
Agree.
woollyone will also shrug.
Woolly Gulch is prepared for the collapse.
Let the GOP get the weak, unelectable, middle of the road pseudo-moderate socialist that it wanted.
We’ll see how that works out for them.
It is NEVER a good idea to hand victory to a socialist, NEVER. McCain has considerably more wooing to do of conservatives before I will openly and full-heartedly support him, but he is far, far better than the alternative, and I happen to like Obama very much. But I will NEVER betray the conservative cause, by conceding victory to a socialist.
Obama is so far left that there is as much or more of a difference between he and McCain, as there is between McCain and most conservatives' conception of an ideal conservative candidate. As we do not have the latter, I'll take McCain. Anything less is an abandonment and betrayal of all the conservative principles on behalf of which I have been working for the past 30 years.
You are betraying the conservative cause by voting for a socialist claiming to be a conservative since February 2008.
Don’t deny it. You know it.
People who hold their nose and vote milquetoast/socialist R because its an R have caused the dilution of conservatism in the first place. You encourage the practice. Congratulations, you are responsible for the death of the conservative movement.
Indylindy also shrugs.
Face it. We all are not going to agree on this election. Some will vote for Juan, some won’t.
Get over it and quit asking folks to vote for a person they do not respect on important issues. Those issues are non negotiable for many.
Obviously Juan does not need our vote anyway. The GOP and the Rat party will be the responsible parties for enabling Obama. They have only themselves to blame.
The questions I have recently been asking myself: What will it take to regain the country if McCain is elected? What will it take if Obama is elected? The answer to the first one is “simple”: the voting booth. The answer to the second question? I just don’t know!
And the country will move to the left with McCain also, only a little slower.
Therefore, conservatives should abandon their principles and vote for McCain because slow suicide is preferable.
What convoluted, incoherent "logic."
I feel like I need Dramamine after forcing myself to read this mess twice.
One man disagreeing with many, many people is not the same as one man battering his wife or many people battering one person. It's a poor analogy, extremely flawed and not even close. Furthermore, it is a statement that belittles and shows little compassion for women who have been battered by their husbands.
CC also shrugging here. If the GOP is this desperate to lose who am I to stand in their way.
Actually voting for a McCain or a McCain like politician when the ideal conservative is not in the running, gives conservatives time to regroup and push rightward at the next available opportunity. That’s the way I’ve always and will continue to view it. One should NEVER concede victory to a socialist.
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