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RUSH: DEMOCRATS CHOSE JOHN McCAIN
www.rushlimbaugh.com ^ | May 1, 2008 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 05/01/2008 11:43:06 PM PDT by Yosemitest



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; crossovervote; democrats; election; gop; mccain; rush; talkradio
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To: logician2u
I have trouble believing the Democrats are a)that numerous; b)that powerful; c)that concerned about another political party when their own is in such disarray.

I have the same trouble. I can see why people in Florida and Michigan, knowing far in advance that their votes would not count, re-registering as Republicans, in order to have some sort of say in a primary. But New Hampshire? A hot race starting in their own party, and they'd rather play games with the Republicans. Not believable.

However, I've come to a different conclusion. Personally, I think we need to face facts. This time, there wasn't any viable conservative candidate. The alternative theory, that there were no conservative voters, is even more painful.
21 posted on 05/02/2008 12:34:05 AM PDT by Mariebl
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To: Haddit
They purposely left out the names of all others that they said were not in the top three even though Hunter at one time was. While Hunter was in the top three, Fox News, kept him out of the debate.

Hunter in the top three? I think you must have imagined something, unless you're talking about a meaningless Free Republic poll. He was my favorite candidate, so I watched the polls carefully. There was never a time when he had the ghost of a chance.
22 posted on 05/02/2008 12:36:26 AM PDT by Mariebl
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To: DoughtyOne

“There needs to be a full on revolt at the convention. I wish delegates would start firming up a plan to get this goat out of the way, so we can run a real Conservative.”

I believe the day will come again for that - BUT for now, do we want to keep the White House safe from the Dems? YES. And, ironically, it’s JSM’s centrism and bi-partisanship in past instances that may well gain enough indies and cross-over dem’s to decide the race in November. Now, if only voters have awakened enough to put a significant number of Rep’s back in the Senate and Congress - THAT’s as vital as the presidential race, in order to save the country. We gotta keep our eye on the prize, people (’cause I guarantee two Dem’s and their party are).


23 posted on 05/02/2008 12:38:07 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: llandres

Citizens Against Government Waste
2008 Congressional Pig Book Member List

Clinton 296.2 million dollars in pork
Obama 97.4 million dollars in pork
McCain 0.0 NONE


24 posted on 05/02/2008 12:39:49 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Yosemitest

Draft Cheney.


25 posted on 05/02/2008 12:40:27 AM PDT by upsdriver
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To: logician2u

“According to some of the posters here on FreeRepublic, Ron Paul’s support came mostly from Democrats (or George Soros).”

I’ve thought that early, early on - that the Dem’s staged their own operation chaos via Ron Paul.


26 posted on 05/02/2008 12:41:01 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: txflake

“I’ve been studying his wife recently, and she’s just too weird to be First Lady.”

Funny, the more I’ve researched her and seen her in various situations, actually the more I think she’d be a credit to the role.

Finally, let’s look at the other choices for First Spouse - Bill Clinton, NO. Michelle (America-hating) Obama, HELL NO.


27 posted on 05/02/2008 12:46:21 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: HAL9000

“Granted, McCain isn’t the ideal candidate. But he’ll have to do in order to avoid the worst possible outcome: President Hillary Clinton or President Obama.”

Yes, yes, yes. You SO get it.


28 posted on 05/02/2008 12:50:06 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: 1035rep

Clinton 296.2 million dollars in pork
Obama 97.4 million dollars in pork
McCain 0.0 NONE

Yes, exactly, and THAT needs to be driven home again and again in the general election. It’s that kind of track record that cuts a lot of ice with millions of Americans. (PS - the only reason BHO lags HRC in those pork numbers is that he just hasn’t had as much time to catch up yet)


29 posted on 05/02/2008 12:56:50 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: DoughtyOne
Hell, the guy is going to propose or support more leftist programs over the next four years, than Kennedy has passed in his entire lifetime.

Between McCain, Hillary and Obama, I think that Hillary would be the most "successful" in pushing a legislative agenda. That effectively makes her election the worst case scenario for more leftist programs.

But my more immediate concern is for the President's role as Commander-in-Chief. Putting Hillary or Obama in that role could have disastrous long-term consequences for our country. McCain is the only realistic alternative to them.

30 posted on 05/02/2008 12:56:59 AM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: Yosemitest
I voted for Clinton to throw off the whole Dems.

Idiot.

31 posted on 05/02/2008 1:01:14 AM PDT by Rudder ("There is only one chief. Obey him." [Rush Limbaugh, April 30, 2008])
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To: DoughtyOne

“And you base that on what?”

To which post were you referring? I did many tonight :-)


32 posted on 05/02/2008 1:01:17 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: llandres
I believe the day will come again for that - BUT for now, do we want to keep the White House safe from the Dems? YES.

Why?  If the Dems are in the White House, we will rally to oppose them.  If John McCain is in the White House he will propose many of the things they would have, only nobody will oppose him.

Guantanamo, Global Warming legislation, granting amnesty to illegal aliens, John is going to support the leftist views on these items.  Who will oppose them?  Will the RNC oppose John?  Will the Republicans in the Gongress oppose him?  Will the Democrats oppose him?  Here are two examples where John will push the leftist agenda, and nobody will oppose him.  If Hillary or Barack proposed these things, the Republicans in Congress would oppose them.  Go down the line and think about what John is likely to propose, and you'll note that across the board what he proposes will be passed into law, with no opposition whatsoever.

What happens with the North American Union comes up?  Nobody will oppose John if he pushes it.  If Hillary or Barack did, we'd be up in arms over it.

And, ironically, it’s JSM’s centrism and bi-partisanship in past instances that may well gain enough indies and cross-over dem’s to decide the race in November.

Please listen to yourself.  Your hope for the future is that independents and cross-over Dems will support McCain.  It's one thing if they cross over to support a Reagan, because he's pro American.  It's altogether different if they are crossing over to support a guy who is going to push their Global Warming agenda, closing Guantanamo, ending water boarding of terrorists, and granting tens of millions of illegal alien crimmigrants citizenship.

Now, if only voters have awakened enough to put a significant number of Rep’s back in the Senate and Congress - THAT’s as vital as the presidential race, in order to save the country. We gotta keep our eye on the prize, people (’cause I guarantee two Dem’s and their party are).

Here you address the idea that you hope voters will be smart enough to put Republicans in Congress.  Well, if they are true Conservatives I think that's an admirable goal.  If they are clones of John McCain and they help him to pass leftist legislation, we would be in a very serious situation.

John McCain is a poison pill.  Swallow his agenda and Conservatism is dead.

Give me an enemy I can rally like minded people against.

33 posted on 05/02/2008 1:02:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: llandres
I truly believe (based on many past experiences), that it will be quite a bit better than we initially feared.

What timeframe are you referring to when you say "initially"? 5 weeks ago when you signed up at FR, or sometime since then?

Personally, my fears grow every day as John opens his mouth.

34 posted on 05/02/2008 1:04:05 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: txflake

Stepford syndrome... kinda creepy.


35 posted on 05/02/2008 1:04:35 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: DoughtyOne

“If the Dems are in the White House, we will rally to oppose them.”

Rally how and with what?? Have you watched many cspan House and Senate sessions? A Dem. president AND a Dem. congress? Please, God, no.


36 posted on 05/02/2008 1:05:30 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: calcowgirl

“What timeframe are you referring to when you say “initially”?”

Going back to when Mitt dropped out (prematurely, imo) and we knew JSM was the candidate we were left with. Most of us never took him seriously until close to the end - remember, just last August he seemed dead in the water and even had to take out a personal loan just to keep going. Politics have a lot of twists and turns, and maybe that’s why so many of us are addicted to it! :-)


37 posted on 05/02/2008 1:11:59 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: DoughtyOne
Your hope for the future is that independents and cross-over Dems will support McCain. It's one thing if they cross over to support a Reagan, because he's pro American. It's altogether different if they are crossing over to support a guy who is going to push their Global Warming agenda, closing Guantanamo, ending water boarding of terrorists, and granting tens of millions of illegal alien crimmigrants citizenship.

BIG BUMP! This "move to the center to win" will bring us nothing but a big-government one-party system... and the death of us all.

38 posted on 05/02/2008 1:13:36 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: HAL9000
Do you remember the Medication addition to Medicare coverage?  Who opposed that?

Do you remember when Bush doubled the budget of the Department of Education in under four years?  Who opposed that?

Do you remember when amnesty was on the line?  Who opposed that?  You may think a majority in Congress did.  I don't believe that for a moment.  If that effot hadn't taken place late last fall, we would never have stopped it.  McCain caved because he know it would doom him to never being viable as a Presidential candidate.

What you folks seem willing to sign on to, is a situation where just about anything can be passed without oppostion.  If Hillary Clinton gets in, Conservatives will oppose her with all their might.  If McCain gets in, most Republicans will join John in whatever he wants to do.

I don't understand why you can't see this.  Don't you understand that you will be signing on to a one party situation in Washington, D.C.?  Forget the party names for a minute.  Just realize that only lefitst agenda will get passed.  NOBODY AT ALL will be lofting Conservative policies.  NOBODY in public office will be supporting Conservative policies.

I guess it's futal to try to explain this.  Folks have been programed for so long to support the party no matter what.  When that party goes over into the middle left territory, folks still feel compelled to do so.

You take care.  I appreciate the note.
39 posted on 05/02/2008 1:14:10 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: HAL9000

“But my more immediate concern is for the President’s role as Commander-in-Chief. Putting Hillary or Obama in that role could have disastrous long-term consequences for our country. McCain is the only realistic alternative to them.”

I’m totally with you. Knowing the depth and extent of the deadly threat we face, our national security and defense are the ultimate deal-makers/deal-breakers to me. Without that, NONE of the rest will matter (thus, my tagline)


40 posted on 05/02/2008 1:17:26 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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