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Editorial: Voter ID ruling will rank among court's worst
Sacramento Bee ^ | 5/1/8 | Editor

Posted on 05/01/2008 8:00:19 AM PDT by SmithL

The U.S. Supreme Court's 6-3 ruling on Indiana's voter ID law will rank as among the court's worst – up there with Plessy v. Ferguson, the 1896 ruling allowing forced separation of the races. It wasn't overturned until 1954. Here's hoping it doesn't take 58 years to overturn Monday's misguided decision.

The Indiana law is aimed at a phantasm: in-person voter fraud at the polls. In the words of the court's majority, "The record contains no evidence of any such fraud actually occurring in Indiana at any time in its history." To find fraud, the justices went back to New York City in 1868. They also noted one possible case of fraud out of 2.8 million ballots cast in Washington's 2004 election. Yet they upheld the strictest voter ID law in the nation, one that disproportionately hits citizens who are old or young or urban or poor.

Indiana requires voters to show a government-issued photo ID (such as a driver's license) with a current address. This may not sound onerous, but it can be to large groups of people.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bluestatewhine; id; immigrantlist; scotus; votefraud; voterid; whodoesnothavepicid
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To: dead
...She returned to the BMV, only to be told that her birth certificate had her maiden name, not her married name. She had to get a certified copy of her marriage certificate and return a fourth time....

Believe it. A friend of mine who is blind, wanted to get a non-driver photo id, in 2002 or 2003, I don't remember exactly. She couldn't open a checking account, never mind vote, in the state she had moved to.

The MV told her to bring 2 forms of id, soc sec card and birth cert.

They didn't match. Her parents had never put her name on her bc, which just referred to her as Baby [Surname].

It took a year and several expensive trips across America to get Vital Statistics to accept the change, and only then would MV grant her application for an id.

You want id from the MV, better not go there with any unusual circumstances. They do not think, they just follow their rules.

Not that there's anything wrong with that! :)

61 posted on 05/01/2008 9:03:53 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: Eva

Well there you have it, in Washington, if you don’t like the results of an election you just keep recounting them until the Democrat is elected and then you stop.


62 posted on 05/01/2008 9:05:15 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: SmithL

It’s all racist, sexist, homophobia!

(/sarcasm)

Well libs are admitting who their base is: illegals.


63 posted on 05/01/2008 9:06:30 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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To: SmithL

It’s all about defining the issue. We’re talking about photo ID’s, while the liberals want it to be about Driver’s licenses. The old lady is all about having DMV problems (surprise, surprise). Getting State issued ID is an entirely different matter.


64 posted on 05/01/2008 9:09:35 AM PDT by pyrless
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To: purpleraine

I’ve been a CA pollworker several times also. Two problems as I see it. Other States might not have our fairly good system; each one sets it’s own rults. The fraud potential is not at the polls but in getting on the voting register in the first place; registering for voting is much too easy for a non-citizen or for someone wanting to multiple-register.


65 posted on 05/01/2008 9:09:36 AM PDT by pyrless
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To: SmithL
Indiana requires voters to show a government-issued photo ID (such as a driver's license) with a current address. This may not sound onerous, but it can be to large groups of people.

Especially non-citizens and dead people.

66 posted on 05/01/2008 9:11:44 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: SmithL

God forbid that a US citizen should have to show any sort of ID to vote in critical elections. We should assume that everyone is honest, and provide them with Spanish ballots on request. This is clearly an unconstitutional tax on the undocumented! What have we become, a fascist state? How will millions of dead or fictitious shill voters now be able to exercise their rights as Democrats? This is an outrage and cannot stand! /crap


67 posted on 05/01/2008 9:11:46 AM PDT by Sender ("Why is it that I can't just eat my waffle?" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: pyrless

I hadn’t thought of that part of it. If the registration was tight and the ID shown at the poll, that would set up a good two-point check.


68 posted on 05/01/2008 9:15:26 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: dead

Betcha she was told in advance what the supporting documents had to be and whether certified or not. Her process was planned from the start by lawyers itching to build a case.


69 posted on 05/01/2008 9:22:01 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SmithL
OMG. This is just awful. This now means that the illegal aliens have been disenfranchised and they no longer have the same right to vote that legal citizens have. How are the RATs going to run roughshod over the nation now?
70 posted on 05/01/2008 9:26:04 AM PDT by fella (Is he al-taquiya or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
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To: rednesss

Someone on this forum told me that his nephew is a police officer in Indiana and that the nephew told him that every illegal alien that he encountered, as an officer, was carrying a Washington State drivers’ license.

My question is what address is on those drivers’ licenses and what address are their ballots sent to, the local ACORN office?


71 posted on 05/01/2008 9:30:53 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE - the new euphemism for Marxist revolution)
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To: SmithL
As the author of one of the briefs urging the Supreme Court to uphold the Indiana law, I say this: The Bee's editorial is factually false, and demonstrates a profound ignorance of the relation between the states and the federal courts. The Constitution was written to favor different choices by different states.

As Justice Brandeis put it in a decision almost a century ago, the states are "legislative laboratories" in which some laws will succeed and spread, others will fail, and not spread. Voter ID laws will spread. That has already begun. The Bee, being Democratic, is simply trying to protect voter fraud in California, nothing more.

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72 posted on 05/01/2008 9:31:55 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: fella

As said before, illegal aliens get driver licenses very easily, and with the motor voter laws they get signed up to vote at the same time. This just keeps dead people and dogs from voting.


73 posted on 05/01/2008 9:46:45 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: SmithL
The buzzybee is a sniveling little communist rag. It's nice to see them lose one. They've had their way in California for too long.
74 posted on 05/01/2008 10:21:07 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: mbynack

And 6 of those 7 are current residents of the city’s cemeteries. :)


75 posted on 05/01/2008 10:21:14 AM PDT by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: SmithL

Explain to me how hard it is to get a photo ID. If you’re not smart enough in this day & age with all the resources availible to anyone young, old, poor whatever, this country is better off if you don’t vote.

Just be glad you don’t have to produce some evidence of taxes paid to vote.


76 posted on 05/01/2008 11:05:54 AM PDT by wordsofearnest ("That government is best which governs least" & Zachary Taylor s/h finished the job.)
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To: SmithL
To find fraud, the justices went back to New York City in 1868

....ACORN, paging ACORN...a little help here for the law clerks please.
77 posted on 05/01/2008 11:26:14 AM PDT by ljco (Privatizing profits and socializing losses is no way to run an economy)
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To: xzins

The Bee is a liberal rag. Of course, the staff wants no ID’s when voting. Illegal vote without any stoppage. Felons vote out here in Ca. The Dems will never give a bill or ruling a chance to stop fraud. They thrive on fraud ala NJ, Ill., Wash. state, Fla. et al. That the in the tank media will never expose this double dealing is just another reason why the alternative media must prevail.


78 posted on 05/01/2008 12:22:57 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: rocksblues
New York State it's $30.

Around here it's $12.

79 posted on 05/01/2008 12:55:30 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SmithL

As bad as Plessy? Oh, the drama!


80 posted on 05/02/2008 12:25:03 PM PDT by NinoFan
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