Posted on 04/25/2008 10:36:59 PM PDT by Kurt Evans
The link to audio of the speech is reproduced in post #2.
It's 22 minutes long.
Well for those who live in the past think if we just stick our heads in the sand and the problem will go away like we did in the 30’s.. Yes...
And, he is counting on all those black votes in Selma, New Orleans, and Youngstown.
Didn’t you hear?
Man!, That is an ugly ensamble he’s wearing. They did posters like tuis of Saddam and Stalin. He should try a military style unform with oversized epaulettes and a napoleon hat and wear all of the medals he got from the UN for being Ambassador to Nothing.
Amen.
Keyes has no duty to feign uncertainty where there is none. He speaks with faith, clarity and certainty. We should welcome that in a President.
If you choose to hold your nose and vote for the RINO, then you are part of the problem. As long as we allow fear to guide us, not faith, we will continue to suffer under “leaders” like McCain.
“Never take counsel of your fears.” -—Andrew Jackson
Enjoy your day!
No, It is quite beside the point, and perhaps that is why you and I are not understanding each other.
Your point is we should elect Obama over McCain because McCain would be bad. That means then, in your mind, that Obama would be better.
No, my point has always been that we should not 'elect' either one (D or R). Your vote is your endorsement.
In fact, you said Obama was your 2nd choice for president, following Hillary Clinton, and McCain trailed behind both of them, followed by Romney in as what you deemed the worst choice of all.
I believe you are referring to Post #09, quoted below for your convenience:
"I believe the most dangerous candidates for president in this cycle were (1) Romney, (2) McCain, (3) Obama and (4) Clinton. It admittedly took me some time to figure out that Giuliani wasn't a serious threat, and I didn't become convinced Romney was an egomaniacal fraud until the Reagan library debate." -Kurt Evans, Post #09
If so, you have mistakenly attributed Kurt Evans' words to me. That being said, I also believe it to be quite evident that you would deliberately misconstrue his words to use them against him (and me). Yours is not a fair reading of what he said, either here or in Post #13, where you build your false construct.
Not to put words in Kurt Evans' mouth, but it seems very clear to me that the first words in his statement deny your interpretation, and make his intentions apparent:
"I believe the most dangerous candidates for president [...]" inherently infers a lack of confidence in all of the named candidates, and finds acceptable candidates only in those he omitted from his list.
He then goes on to display a perfectly cogent reason for his statement, which you fail to address:
"The critical difference between a liberal Democrat president and a liberal Republican president is that the Democrat would face substantial congressional opposition. Congressional Republicans have already begun rolling over for McCain's liberalism." -Kurt Evans, Post #09
while I agree with Kurt Evans in spirit, I would go even farther than he, finding no solace in any candidate to the left of and including Fred Thompson. All of them represent a real and present danger to our country, and I will not endorse any of them, regardless of party affiliation, or proportion with respect to each other.
So clearly you think Obama would be a better president than McCain. So tell us then, where exactly would Obama be better?
I do not think either Obama or McCain would be better or worse. They are merely two sides of the same damnable coin.
I would say that Dr. Alan Keyes would make a fine president, embodying the patriot spirit, and the statesmanship our forefathers would require of us by the writ of their blood spilled upon the ground. In that understanding alone, no other current candidate can come close in comparison.
But one or the other will be elected. Period.
No, my point has always been that we should not 'elect' either one (D or R).
No, it really isn't.
Your vote is your endorsement.
pity.
The exception being that those that Reagan wooed, the Christian Right, and thereby, the South, are no longer Democrats. McCain is appalling to them. McCain is throwing Reagan's folks right under the bus.
A very big BUMP to that. Worth repeating often!.
In the first place, that is yet to be determined. That being said, If your statement becomes true, then I can guarantee you that neither will be elected with my vote.
Democracy is all about compromise. You make the best choice of the available options. As the options narrow, you adjust you choice to the best one remaining.
Thank God we live in a Republic and not a Democracy, and for that precise reason. In a Republic, one must vote one's conscience. And you need not believe only me. Read Washington, Adams, and Jefferson on the matter of the vote, and on the matter of parties and partisans.
Partisanship is anathema to a Republic, and the parties exist as a necessary evil, to provide the mechanics, the engine, if you would, for the ideologies they embody. That is the sole reason for their construction in the American system. It is the ideology that is of importance, not the party.
[Your vote is your endorsement.]
No, it really isn't. In a two party system such as ours, you vote against the lesser of two evils. You really do. That's not just rhetoric.
No, you really *don't*. One is supposed to vote one's conscience, as was our instruction from our fathers. Would you have their words removed?
That is how our system is set up. That is how you are meant to vote in order to make it work. [...] That is American politics, so one could say, voting 3rd party is unAmerican...
Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost. -John Quincy Adams "Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party, generally. The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty. The common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it. It serves always to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection." -George Washington "There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution." -John Adams
We cannot stomach McCain.
Therefore it’s the Constitution Party this year.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2007494/posts
Constitution Party stunner: Chuck Baldwin KOs firebrand Alan Keyes
Next..............
Keyes bump
“I wish more Conservatives would understand and stand ardently for the principles Keyes advocates.”
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Or, in other words, you wish more of those who call themselves conservatives really believed in the original concept of this nation. I find it revealing that Alan Keyes is almost the only national figure who speaks for the founding principles put forth in the Declaration and in the Constitution and he is considered a crackpot by the majority. This seems to confirm what I concluded long ago, the majority of “Americans” don’t really understand what this nation is supposed to be about.
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