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Muslim groups whine about McCain referring to "Islamic terrorists"
Jihad Watch ^ | 21 April 08 | Jihad Watch Staff

Posted on 04/23/2008 9:30:01 AM PDT by LSUfan

When they start calling for Al-Zawahiri and other Islamic jihadists to stop using Islamic texts and teachings to call for violence, maybe they'll have a case against McCain.

"Muslims press McCain on 'Islamic' terror label," by Rowan Scarborough for the Washington Times (thanks to all who sent this in):

A coalition of American Muslim groups is demanding that Sen. John McCain stop using the adjective "Islamic" to describe terrorists and extremist enemies of the United States.

Muneer Fareed, who heads the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), told The Washington Times that his group is beginning a campaign to persuade Mr. McCain to rephrase his descriptions of the enemy.

The Islamic Society of North America was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation jihad terror funding case last summer.

Also, in a Muslim Brotherhood memorandum outlining its strategic goals for the United States, ISNA was named as one of the groups participating in "a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions."

"We've tried to contact his office, contact his spokesperson to have them rethink word usage that is more acceptable to the Muslim community," Mr. Fareed said. "If it's not our intent to paint everyone with the same brush, then certainly we should think seriously about just characterizing them as criminals, because that is what they are."

An aide to Mr. McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee who is counting on his pro-Iraq war stance to attract conservative voters, said the senator from Arizona will not drop the word.

Steve Schmidt, a former Bush White House aide who is now a McCain media strategist, told The Times that the use of the word is appropriate and that the candidate will continue to define the enemy that way.

"Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda represent a perverted strain of Islam at odds with the great many peaceful Muslims who practice their great faith peacefully," Mr. Schmidt said. "But the reality is, the hateful ideology which underpins bin Ladenism is properly described as radical Islamic extremism. Senator McCain refers to it that way because that is what it is."

McCain in this, as inadequate and false as it is, comes closer to the truth than the present White House occupant or the other two aspirants to the throne.

Mr. McCain often uses the term "Islamic" to describe terrorist enemies. The two remaining Democrats in the presidential field, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, generally shun such word usage.

President Bush also avoids the term, prompting criticism from some conservative pundits, who say the White-House-coined phrase "war on terror" does not sufficiently identify the enemy. Mr. Bush used the term "Islamic fascists" several times in 2006 and was criticized by Muslims....

Mr. Fareed, who is ISNA's secretary-general, said such usages are wrong.

"My own take on this is that we tried and failed to stylize this particular onslaught against the United States as one that has religious connotations and regional connotations," said Mr. Fareed, a former associate professor of Islamic studies at Wayne State University.

"I think this is just criminality, fair and square. We should just call them criminals. You want to call them terrorist criminals, fine," he said. "But adding the word 'Muslim' or 'Islamic' certainly doesn't help our cause as Americans. It's counterproductive. It paints an entire community of believers, 1.2 billion in total, in a very negative way. And certainly that's not something that we want to do."...

Painting everyone with the same brush? Come on, Mr. Fareed. This is so specious it reeks. As I've said many times before, the phrase "Islamic terrorists" no more paints all Muslims as terrorists than the phrase "Italian fascists" paints all Italians as fascists or "Conservative Democrat" paints all conservatives as Democrats. Basic grammar, apparently, must go out the window for the cause of PC mau-mauing.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cair; islam; isna; mccain; terrorism
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I have to give McCain credit. He is willing to call the enemy by name. President Bush has never found his way to doing that and it has hampered the war effort in my opinion.
1 posted on 04/23/2008 9:30:01 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

If the shoe fits ................


2 posted on 04/23/2008 9:30:46 AM PDT by scooter2 (The greatest threat to the security of the United States is the Democratic Party.)
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To: LSUfan
An aide to Mr. McCain ...said the senator from Arizona will not drop the word

Stick to your guns, Mac.

3 posted on 04/23/2008 9:33:10 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: LSUfan

Christians need to demand that muslims shut up and keep their so called religion in the middle east where it belongs.


4 posted on 04/23/2008 9:34:24 AM PDT by RC2
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To: LSUfan

Well, we certainly don’t want to make the Mooselims angry. A happy Mooselim is a ...okay, there aren’t any. Never mind.


5 posted on 04/23/2008 9:36:18 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: LSUfan
The guys who slammed those hijacked planes into the World Trade Center Towers, and the Pentagon, attacked the USS Cole and Kobar Towers barracks, beheaded Daniel Pearl, killed school kids in Russia and committed about every terror act in the last decade all have one thing in common ...they were Muslims and used their Islamic ideology as the basis for doing these acts.
6 posted on 04/23/2008 9:37:01 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Mr. Mojo

PC has run amok - I’d bet money that this gets “rethought” by McCain at some point - wouldn’t want to be “divisive” or fail to “celebrate our diversity” blah blah blah.


7 posted on 04/23/2008 9:37:06 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: RC2
Keep their so called religion in the middle east where it belongs.

Islam belongs to the place where it originated from... Hell. The Middle East is a wonderful and rich region which ought to be freed from this scourge.

8 posted on 04/23/2008 9:37:41 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: LSUfan
Muneer Fareed


9 posted on 04/23/2008 9:37:57 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Stop By The FReepathon, Help Keep The Lights On.)
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To: LSUfan

Calling these folks “Islamic terrorists” is accurate not because they are Moslems (in which case the protestors would be right), but because they are executing their terror in the name of Islam. If someone who was Christian commited terrorism because they wanted to secede from the U.S., then it would be improper to call them a Christian terrorist. But if they committed their acts because they thought that the U.S. should be governed by a Christian theocracy, then the label “Christian terrorist” would be accurate.


10 posted on 04/23/2008 9:40:40 AM PDT by RonF
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> Mr. Fareed, a former associate professor of Islamic
> studies at Wayne State University

How many professors of Christian studies are there at Wayne State University?

I have a strong hunch that it’s *ZERO*


11 posted on 04/23/2008 9:42:42 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: LSUfan
When they start calling for Al-Zawahiri and other Islamic jihadists to stop using Islamic texts and teachings to call for violence, maybe they'll have a case against McCain.

It is forbidden for a muslim to criticize the faith of another muslim...

13 posted on 04/23/2008 9:46:15 AM PDT by weegee (Vote Obama 2008 for a bitter America.)
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To: RC2
The middle east was comprised of lands of other faiths before Mohammed conquered them.
14 posted on 04/23/2008 9:48:06 AM PDT by weegee (Vote Obama 2008 for a bitter America.)
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What the h*ll? They call themselves Islamic and revel in their terroristic tactics. That, by definition, makes them Islamic Terrorists.

Calling them something else won't change the fact that they are committing violent, terroristic acts in the name of Islam. Sure, it is a problem for real Muslims, but changing a name won't help. You want to help? Then do something to stop them from twisting and perverting your religion in the name of some sick power grab by sociopathic Imams. I believe Islamic law strictly forbids making war on innocents, non-combatants, particularly women and children. So tell me how their indiscriminate bombings in Iraq are justified? Short version, they aren't and cannot be squared away with real Islam. These people are perverting and hijacking your religion to the point the rest of the world may soon decide to outlaw it. You had better do something fast to reclaim it and salvage it, if you can.

Stick to your guns Mr. McCain, call it like you see it.

15 posted on 04/23/2008 9:48:33 AM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: LSUfan

> Mr. McCain often uses the term “Islamic” to describe terrorist enemies. The two remaining Democrats in the presidential field, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, generally shun such word usage.

And there you have, in stark contrast, the difference between a Wartime Presidential Candidate, and War Wimps. Barney the Purple Dinosaur is a Democrat.

> “I think this is just criminality, fair and square. We should just call them criminals. You want to call them terrorist criminals, fine,” he said. “But adding the word ‘Muslim’ or ‘Islamic’ certainly doesn’t help our cause as Americans. It’s counterproductive. It paints an entire community of believers, 1.2 billion in total, in a very negative way. And certainly that’s not something that we want to do.”...

All 1.2 billion Muslims are complicit in the war crimes of the Muslim Terrorists because they refuse to denounce their activities and clean their own house. It is the Muslims that are giving aid and comfort to Osama bin Laden, it is the Muslims that are propping up the government in Iran, and it is the Muslims who are causing problems in Iraq. Muslims. Islamic Muslims. All of that could stop in an instant if 1.2 Billion Muslims decided “enough!”

Until then, all Muslims are Terrorist sympathizers.


16 posted on 04/23/2008 9:52:17 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: scooter2

If there were Irish terrorists, or Mennonite terrorists, or “typical white person” terrorists that were trying to destroy our country,

I’d expect them to be called such in conversations about them.


17 posted on 04/23/2008 9:54:14 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: RonF

Excellent post!


18 posted on 04/23/2008 9:54:16 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: weegee

“forbidden” as in “you’ll lose your head if you do”.


19 posted on 04/23/2008 9:55:17 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Deb
Well, we certainly don’t want to make the Mooselims angry. A happy Mooselim is a ...okay, there aren’t any. Never mind.

A happy Mooselim is a DEAD mooselim in paradise.

Is that what you meant to say?
20 posted on 04/23/2008 9:56:59 AM PDT by GoldMan (Never try to rationalize an irrational mind............)
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