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Los Angeles 'is a Third World city'
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 23/04/2008 | Staffer

Posted on 04/22/2008 7:44:40 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick

Los Angeles is becoming a "Third World city" with immigrants making up half its workforce, says a new study.

A third of immigrants have not graduated from high school and 60 per cent do not speak English fluently, the Migration Policy Institute found.

It said this left immigrants ill-equipped to fill California's fastest-growing occupations, such as computer software engineering and nursing. The organisation added that as the so-called baby boomers reach retirement age, a similar pattern will spread across the US.

Ernesto Cortes Jr, of the Industrial Areas Foundation, a think-tank that specialises on social change, claimed Los Angeles was at a crossroads.

"The question is are we going to be a 21st century city with shared prosperity, or a Third World city with an elite group on top and most on near poverty wages?" he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; diversity; firstworld; immigration; losangeles; unitedstates
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Yes, and in that movie directed by Gregory Nava, the Guatemalans are treated badly by the Mexicans... so they learn to “act Mexican” as a safe camouflage.


121 posted on 04/23/2008 8:24:26 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Street slang for a gringo=huero,/i> means "foreigner" en español.

Wrong. It means light-haired or light-skinned, and is spelled 'guero.'

122 posted on 04/23/2008 8:30:51 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
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To: Ajnin
And I have been to East LA, Compton, El Monte, Lynwood, Baldwin Park, Anaheim, etc. etc.

Except for East L.A., none of these are in Los Angeles city limits, and Anaheim is in Orange County!

123 posted on 04/23/2008 8:36:29 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
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To: JLS
I have been to several third world cities and I have been to LA recently. It is just silly to claim they are alike.

The claim is not that LA is a third world city right now. The claim is that it is becoming a third world city. If you had grown up in LA and seen what has happened to it in the last 30+ years, you would probably understand the cause for cocern.

124 posted on 04/23/2008 8:42:49 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: La Enchiladita
I know, because I live here.

After I got out, I couldn't believe what I used to think of as acceptable living conditions. I'm very sad about what has become of my hometown.

125 posted on 04/23/2008 8:45:15 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: La Enchiladita

>>the Guatemalans are treated badly by the Mexicans.<<

Not all the Mexicans. The truck driver, the coyote recommended by their friend, Nacha, and Jorge (in the restaurant) were sympathetic characters. The coyote from Zacatecas was a bad guy.


126 posted on 04/23/2008 8:51:07 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: kabar
You seem to be another one that doesn't know what per capita means.

Let me spell it out for you.

It means for every 100,000 people ya got in Richmond, there are 38.8 murders. In LA there are only 12.4 for the *same* amount of people.

No matter how ya chop it up, this is mind boggling and means the degree and frequency of crime occurring in Richmond Virgina makes Los Angeles look like a church picnic.

128 posted on 04/23/2008 9:00:28 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: ReagansShinyHair
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but even places like Indianapolis, Indiana have more crime per capita than Los Angeles.

As a matter of fact, Indianapolis has substantially more crime per capita in EVERY SINGLE major crime category than LA, California.

Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:

Indianapolis, IN Los Angeles, CA National
Murder: 17.5 12.4 7
Forcible Rape: 68.54 27.3 32.2
Robbery: 405.6 370 205.8
Aggravated Assault: 468.3 377.2 336.5
Burglary: 1465 524.8 813.2
Larceny Theft: 3611.8 1539.2 2601.7
Vehicle Theft: 1115.6 654.4 501.5

129 posted on 04/23/2008 9:06:05 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
You seem to be another one that doesn't know what per capita means.

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I gave you a link to an article about the gang and racial wars going on in LA. This is more than just crime rates, which don't tell the whole story.

There is no doubt that statistically Richmond has a higher crime rate per capita than LA. Of course LA's population is 3,879,455 compared to Richmond's 195,708. If you compare LA to NYC, LA has a much higher crime rate per capita with almost twice the murder and forcible rape rates.

The bottom line is that LA is becoming a third world city due to a huge influx of immigrants, legal and illegal. The gap between rich and poor, failing schools, increased welfare rolls, corruption, and out of control gangs mark a city in decline.

130 posted on 04/23/2008 9:14:33 AM PDT by kabar
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To: La Enchiladita

I live in Nashville.

Nashville is 26% black.

Legal latino population is around 8% which trust me indicates that if you include illegals then it has to be at least 2-3 times that.

hence the white population is probably more like 50-55% these days....hardly predominate.

And if you look at who commits the crimes at what rate then you will see how the problem lies in Nashville same as elsewhere.

Did you really think Nashville is in the top ten because whites are running around pell mell committing crimes like they are in East St Louis or Camden NJ?

If so you need to read up more. There are simply no cities in the nation where whites are repsonsible for large crime rates. None. If someone knows of one please pass it on.

and drunk in Anchorage or Fairbanks or Bangor in the winter does not count.

the only exceptions to the whites and crime stats might be the occasional rural town where local crackers run the dope and gambling and vices and have corrupted law and politics....the sorta stuff you see on 60 Minutes

but that does not translate into higher random victim crime rate...just more vice and corruption....the streets might be perfectly safe.

think Tracy City Tennessee or Hot Sprngs Arkansas 50 years ago or Biloxi Mississippi


131 posted on 04/23/2008 9:16:11 AM PDT by wardaddy (I wish a real conservative had the balls to win that The Witch does)
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To: Ajnin

Actually, it’s “the” reason. If LA, or Phoenix, or Dallas had 40,000,000 (thats million) low end service jobs, or labor intensive jobs, they’d all be there.

The greedy employers/corporations by supporting corrupt politicians with cash, have been able to keep the borders open, to ensure their never ending conga-line of millions of illegal low wage laborers continues.

Profits regardless of consequences.

Follow da money.


132 posted on 04/23/2008 9:20:54 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: sandyeggo
That is the most depressing thing I’ve read in a long time

I think you may have meant to ping someone else. The link I posted was about dancing bears.

133 posted on 04/23/2008 9:26:11 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: kabar
I gave you a link to an article about the gang and racial wars going on in LA. This is more than just crime rates, which don't tell the whole story.

Racial war?

Hmmm..

Here is a very simple question for ya.

If there is a racial war in LA, Cal, why is it that almost ever single major city outside of California has higher per capita violent crime than Los Angeles?

134 posted on 04/23/2008 9:34:05 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: raybbr

Bush was sure a naive sumbeach in that pandering speech wasn’t he?

You’d think he’d never been anywhere...maybe he hadn’t.

All his latino pals are bourgeoisie puros.


135 posted on 04/23/2008 9:36:59 AM PDT by wardaddy (I wish a real conservative had the balls to win that The Witch does)
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To: wardaddy; dragnet2; Ajnin; Cvengr; JLS; HiJinx; Clintonfatigued; PotatoHeadMick; kabar; ...

I think the word you’re looking for is ‘predominant,’ not predominate. I understand that by asking your question initially, you were implying something. I based my answer on having watched several episodes of ‘COPS’.... lol. Most of their Nashville suspects are white and they are doozies. Sorry, I’ve never seen such lowlifes in my life, certainly not around here.

And Memphis is even worse, right?

However, it seems you are making the case that whites are proportionally responsible at a lower rate for street crime, but at a MUCH higher rate for “white collar” crime... correct?

Look at the article again. It’s very short, a sound bit really. I try to base my comments on the posted article. The claim that L.A. is a third world city, based on immigration statistics, is false.

We have had a high immigrant population ever since I can remember. Back mid-20th century, the white immigration was from the mid-West U.S. and black from the South U.S. In the late ‘70s and into the ‘80s, a huge influx from New York, mostly NYC. That started the trend to rudeness and bad traffic, IMO, plus elitist attitudes.

Mexicans have been here forever, and there are several-generation familias in East L.A. In public life, they assimilated like everyone else but had their own private life culture. No problema.

The Reagan amnesty brought the first flood of illegals, not only from Mexico but heavily from El Salvador, Nicaragua and Guatemala, many of the Central Americans being true refugees. There was, at first, resentment from the older Mexican American families towards the “pochos.”

California is the fifth largest economy in the world, and the largest food producer in the U.S. and has always needed farm labor. That’s another factor I’ll throw in.

Now the hi-tech industries need skilled workers. They come from India and Asia. I personally have an immigrant friend from Czech Republic, here 10 years and now a citizen. The 50% immigrant work force referred to in the news bite is not all Mexican or Hispanic, by any means.

Truth be told, the only growing influx to the U.S. I would truly worry about is Islamic.


136 posted on 04/23/2008 9:49:53 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you.)
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To: dragnet2

You seem to be fixated on per capita crime rates. Your focus should be on the LA gang wars and what some have deemed ethnic cleansing. I am sure you have not taken the time to read the article I linked to you. You really should read it before spouting off.


137 posted on 04/23/2008 9:52:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: La Enchiladita

Memphis is black crime.

COPS is not exactly a statistics source entertaining or not.

White collar crime has very little to do with safe streets.

One cannot deny that crime is higher in barrios than elsewhere. It is simply a fact.

I can’t argue that Northeasterners tend to be more demanding and rude...lol...you won’t get an argument from me on that.

In the case of Los Angeles th demographic that makes huge parts of the city so dangerous for everyone is black or hispanic. Plain and simple. It’s not whites or asians.

the immigration argument is a long one and has more to do with culture than race.

but being one who comes from a long line of poor white folks I don’t believe poverty is responsible for predatory crime


138 posted on 04/23/2008 10:15:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (I wish a real conservative had the balls to win that The Witch does)
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To: Kozak; Cringing Negativism Network
I savvy, and I heartily agree.
139 posted on 04/23/2008 10:17:47 AM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS [with oak leaf clusters])
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To: kabar
I gave you a link to an article about the gang and racial wars going on in LA.

Racial war?

Hmmm..

Here is a very simple question for ya.

If there is a racial war in LA, Cal, why is it that almost ever single major city outside of California has higher per capita violent crime than Los Angeles?

You seem to be fixated on per capita crime rates.

You failed or just avoided the question.

A war implies killing etc. You realize murder is a crime right?

One last time, if there is a racial war in LA, Cal, why is it that almost ever single major city outside of California has higher per capita violent crime than Los Angeles?

140 posted on 04/23/2008 10:32:04 AM PDT by dragnet2
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