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To: kabar
I gave you a link to an article about the gang and racial wars going on in LA.

Racial war?

Hmmm..

Here is a very simple question for ya.

If there is a racial war in LA, Cal, why is it that almost ever single major city outside of California has higher per capita violent crime than Los Angeles?

You seem to be fixated on per capita crime rates.

You failed or just avoided the question.

A war implies killing etc. You realize murder is a crime right?

One last time, if there is a racial war in LA, Cal, why is it that almost ever single major city outside of California has higher per capita violent crime than Los Angeles?

140 posted on 04/23/2008 10:32:04 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
If there is a racial war in LA, Cal, why is it that almost ever single major city outside of California has higher per capita violent crime than Los Angeles?

You have tried to turn this thread into a discussion on comparative crime rates, which is not the subject of the UK Daily Telegraph article. Instead, the real subject is that "Los Angeles is becoming a "Third World city" with immigrants making up half its workforce, says a new study. A third of immigrants have not graduated from high school and 60 per cent do not speak English fluently, the Migration Policy Institute found.

I sent you the following link, L.A. Gangs: Nine Miles and Spreading that provides a lengthy exposition of the racially linked gang wars that are spreading within LA between blacks and Mexicans. The changing demographics of the city are causing friction and conflict. Based on your comments, you didn't take the time to read the article. You would rather bloviate about comparative crime statistics rather than address what is going on in LA.

A war implies killing etc. You realize murder is a crime right?

From the article: The Bounty Hunter–Grape Street murders over that Christmas season were among the 273 gang-related homicides in Los Angeles last year. Gang-related killings have dropped to 187 so far this year. While it’s easy to see the ebb and flow in killings as just chapters in L.A.’s infamous gang wars, gang experts, police and even gang members themselves say that the truth is that something ominous is happening. Gang crime in South Los Angeles spiked 24 percent in 2006, 14 percent in the city overall and more than 60 percent in the San Fernando Valley.

"Nationwide, juvenile gang homicides have spiked 23 percent since 2000. There are six times as many gangs in L.A. as there were a quarter century ago, and twice as many gang members. But as important as the gang activity itself is what’s different about the violence. In America’s urban ganglands, and in L.A. in particular, the ferocity of the thuggery has surged; gang members, their victims and police long on the gang beat tell me the fighting has become more codeless, more arbitrary and more brutal than ever."

“Los Angeles is the epicenter of the nation’s gang crisis, and an effective assault on gang crime will require increased suppression, intervention and prevention measures,” Villaraigosa said after Rice’s report was released. “Street gangs are responsible for the majority of all the murders in Los Angeles and nearly 70 percent of all the shootings. We must work to address gang violence in a truly comprehensive way.”

"The problem is that for the most part traditional (and failed) models of gangs and gang suppression do not apply, because not only are gangs better armed and more ferocious, but they look different. The accelerating current of gang violence is colliding with a growing wave of Hispanic migration from Mexico and Central America into the United States. Hispanic gangs now dominate the hardcore narcotics business nationwide, and they are physically pushing historically entrenched black gangs out of their territories."

FYI: Here in Northern Virginia we have one of the major concentrations of MS-13. It is becoming more and more of a problem, both in terms of violence and drugs. One last time, if there is a racial war in LA, Cal, why is it that almost ever single major city outside of California has higher per capita violent crime than Los Angeles?

143 posted on 04/23/2008 11:10:54 AM PDT by kabar
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