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Mayan Apocalypse, 2012
ABC Science News ^ | 4-14-2008 | By Karl S. Kruszelnicki

Posted on 04/15/2008 7:22:32 PM PDT by blam

Mayan Apocalypse, 2012

If you observe the ancient Mayan calendar, then your time's running out. Dr Karl has been rummaging through ancient Mayan scribblings that are said to indicate an apocalyptic end by 2012.

By Karl S. Kruszelnicki

Villagers and tourists celebrate next to the Kukulkan pyramid at the Mayan ruins of Chichen Itza in Mexico's Yucatan peninsula(Source: Victor Ruiz/Reuters)

The driver was taking me from Melbourne airport into the city. As we chatted, it came out that he was deeply worried. He had a wife and child, and a new baby on the way - but what was the use of living, he cried, if the world would end in 2012 as predicted by the Mayan prophecies, when his new baby would be just four years old.

Prophecies about the end of the world (or at the very least, civilisation as we know it) have been around forever. There was a flurry of them around 2000 AD, and another bunch for 5 May 2005, when all the planets were supposed to line up. (By the way, they didn't line up and yep, we're still here.)

The Mayan civilisation covered the skinny bit of the Americas between North and South America, reaching from the southern states of Mexico down to western Honduras. Its Classic Period was from 250 to 900 AD, so their best years were behind them by the time of the Spanish invasion.

At their peak, the Mayans had the only mature written language ever found in the Americas, spectacular and densely populated cities, and very sophisticated systems of mathematics, astronomy and calendars.

They were marvelous astronomers, showing what could be done with the naked eye. Their measurements of the lunar month, the period of Venus and the year were more accurate than those of the Ancient Greeks.

Which brings us to the calendar that predicts the end of the world in 2012.

The Mayans had many calendars, because they saw 'time' as a meshing of sacred or spiritual cycles. So while our Gregorian calendar organises days for social, administrative and commercial purposes, the Mayan calendars added a religious element. For example, each day had a patron spirit, and so could be good for travel, but bad for business.

One of their several calendars was called the Long Count. It was set up around 355 BCE, and had as its chosen starting date 0.0.0.0.0, which corresponds to 11 August 3114 BCE. And on 21 December 2012, the Mayan Long Count calendar will read 13.0.0.0.0.

Now here's how it works. Our numbering system is based on 10. But the Mayans had a counting system based on 20, so most of the 'slots' in their calendar had 20 potential numbers (0 to 19). The calendar read a little like the odometer in your car's speedo (which run from 0 to 9). The extreme right slot (of five slots) would count through the days, and when it got to 19 days (0.0.0.0.19) would reset to zero, and the next slot across to the left would increase by one (to 0.0.0.1.0).

So 0.0.0.0.1 was one day, and 0.0.0.1.0 was 20 days. Then 0.0.1.0.0 was about one year, 0.1.0.0.0 was about 20 years and with 1.0.0.0.0, you've clocked up about 400 years. And on 21 December 2012, the Mayan Long Count calendar will read 13.0.0.0.0.

By the way, the time between 0.0.0.0.0 and 13.0.0.0.0 is about 5126 years. Now some Mayan archaeo-astronomers reckon that the calendar should reset back to zero and start again. But others disagree and say it should continue to 20, and then reset again.

We don't have enough information to know who is correct - but if it does go up to 20, then this completely destroys the End of Days Conspiracy Theory, as far as the year 2012 is concerned. But let's stick to the 13 Conspiracy for the time being.

The claims for 21 December 2012 cover a lot of ground. They range from 'nuclear holocaust' to 'Harmonic Convergence of cosmic energy flowing through the earth, cleansing it and raising it to a higher level of vibration', and along the way they include 'the death of two-thirds of humanity' and 'the north and south poles will split' - you get the picture.

But there are two problems with this.

First, when a calendar comes to the end of a cycle, it just rolls over into the next cycle. In our Western society, every year 31 December is followed, not by the End of the World, but by 1 January. So 13.0.0.0.0 in the Mayan calendar will be followed by 0.0.0.0.1 - or good-ol' 22 December 2012, with only a few shopping days left to Christmas.

And the second problem is that it is always remarkably difficult to make predictions, especially about the future, and things that haven't happened yet.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; apocalypse; godsgravesglyphs; mayan; onntsa; terencemckenna
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To: blam
I've been hearing about the 2012 TEOTWAWKI date since I was a kid in the 70s... but what I find more interesting is the question of why the Mayans chose the year 3114 BC as the first year of their Long Count calendar.
21 posted on 04/15/2008 7:53:37 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (NerdGod)
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To: blam

Thank God I’m not a Mayan!


22 posted on 04/15/2008 7:53:49 PM PDT by Palladin (Pennsylvania: guns, religion, and liberty.)
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To: tokenatheist

Common use?! Nope. Individual exceptions...none of which are codified into law.

Write “CE” into your house contract instead of “AD” and the other party will have grounds to nullify a sale after the fact.


23 posted on 04/15/2008 7:57:08 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

CE=Christian era. BCE=Before Christ even!

These profs seem to be bitter,clinging to their atheism and delusions of grandeur.


24 posted on 04/15/2008 7:57:34 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
"I've been hearing about the 2012 TEOTWAWKI date since I was a kid in the 70s... but what I find more interesting is the question of why the Mayans chose the year 3114 BC as the first year of their Long Count calendar. "

I've been trying to read this book but it's tough going.


25 posted on 04/15/2008 8:00:47 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Southack

It’s been used in history departments since the 1970s when I was a history major.


26 posted on 04/15/2008 8:01:59 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: All
I just read A book on this subject by Roxanne St.Claire ‘First you run ‘ load of rubbish.IMHO. It was a Sexy,sizzling heart-stopping romantic suspense.. I think that about covers it? There words NOT mine
27 posted on 04/15/2008 8:02:47 PM PDT by Milly (An Aggie Mom.)
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To: Palladin
Does this mean all the illegals from south of the border will go home in four years?
28 posted on 04/15/2008 8:02:50 PM PDT by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: huldah1776
Interesting, actually, since 2013 will be 40 years of legalized human sacrifice in the USA. The One True God of the Bible loves the number 40.

13 posted on April 15, 2008 8:47:01 PM MDT by huldah1776

Page 266 of the book "Number in Scripture" by E W Bullinger

Forty Years of Probation by Trial

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua
29 posted on 04/15/2008 8:08:23 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: blam

As my mom used to say, people have been predicting the end of the World forever.


30 posted on 04/15/2008 8:09:36 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Unapologetically European)
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To: blam
Fascinating... just from reading the summary on Wiki, I can see repetitions of the Flood myth and the Babel myth.
31 posted on 04/15/2008 8:13:52 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (NerdGod)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
"The human sacrifice schedule will be thrown into chaos!"

That's okay wid me. We've killed enough people anyway.

32 posted on 04/15/2008 8:14:23 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: blam
Skynet goes on line on April 19, 2012. it becomes self aware on Judgment Day, April 21, 2012 in this time line. The I Ching ends on the exact same date as the Myan Calendar, in any case we a screwed.
33 posted on 04/15/2008 8:14:27 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: huldah1776

A blink in the universe.


34 posted on 04/15/2008 8:15:39 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: blam

I think that I read it will be in August 2012 when the 28,000 year Mayan calender is completed.

We shall see what happens.


35 posted on 04/15/2008 8:22:40 PM PDT by Radix (How come they call people "Morons" when they do not know as much? Shouldn't they be called "Lessons?)
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To: Radix

It can’t be true if Nostradamus didn’t predict it.


36 posted on 04/15/2008 8:25:22 PM PDT by xJones (/sarcasm)
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To: blam
I always thought there might be something to this because weren't these the same people who correctly identified, to the day, the landing of the first European conqueror on their shores, who they thought was their god?
37 posted on 04/15/2008 8:29:06 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: blam

Too many anti-Catholic threads.


38 posted on 04/15/2008 8:39:09 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

“Y2K12

All stone calendars will cease to function!

The human sacrifice schedule will be thrown into chaos!

Stock up NOW on freeze dried human hearts.”

Just what we need; a bunch of bitter Mayans.
What will they turn to?


39 posted on 04/15/2008 8:41:28 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: OeOeO
These profs seem to be bitter,clinging to their atheism and delusions of grandeur.

Only the profs from Pitt, Penn State, Carnegie Mellon...

40 posted on 04/15/2008 8:47:45 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (PaMom--a broken glass DINO til 4/23/08)
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