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Users Fight to Save Windows XP [You're gonna buy Vista whether you like it or not!]
www.physorg.com ^ | 04/13/2008 | By JESSICA MINTZ, AP Technology Writer

Posted on 04/14/2008 6:23:53 AM PDT by Red Badger

Microsoft Corp.'s operating systems run most personal computers around the globe and are a cash cow for the world's largest software maker. But you'd never confuse a Windows user with the passionate fans of Mac OS X or even the free Linux operating system. Unless it's someone running Windows XP, a version Microsoft wants to retire.

Fans of the six-year-old operating system set to be pulled off store shelves in June have papered the Internet with blog posts, cartoons and petitions recently. They trumpet its superiority to Windows Vista, Microsoft's latest PC operating system, whose consumer launch last January was greeted with lukewarm reviews.

No matter how hard Microsoft works to persuade people to embrace Vista, some just can't be wowed. They complain about Vista's hefty hardware requirements, its less-than-peppy performance, occasional incompatibility with other programs and devices and frequent, irritating security pop-up windows.

For them, the impending disappearance of XP computers from retailers, and the phased withdrawal of technical support in coming years, is causing a minor panic.

Take, for instance, Galen Gruman. A longtime technology journalist, Gruman is more accustomed to writing about trends than starting them.

But after talking to Windows users for months, he realized his distaste for Vista and strong attachment to XP were widespread.

"It sort of hit us that, wait a minute, XP will be gone as of June 30. What are we going to do?" he said. "If no one does something, it's going to be gone."

So Gruman started a Save XP Web petition, gathering since January more than 100,000 signatures and thousands of comments, mostly from die-hard XP users who want Microsoft to keep selling it until the next version of Windows is released, currently targeted for 2010.

On the petition site's comments section, some users proclaimed they will downgrade from Vista to XP - an option available in the past to businesses, but now open for the first time to consumers who buy Vista Ultimate or Business editions - if they need to buy a new computer after XP goes off the market.

Others used the comments section to rail against the very idea that Microsoft has the power to enforce the phase-out from a stable, decent product to one that many consider worse, while profiting from the move. Many threatened to leave Windows for Apple or Linux machines.

Microsoft already extended the XP deadline once, but it shows no signs it will do so again. The company has declined to meet with Gruman to consider the petition. Microsoft is aware of the petition, it said in a statement to The Associated Press, and "will continue to be guided by feedback we hear from partners and customers about what makes sense based on their needs."

Gruman said he'd keep pressing for a meeting.

"They really believe if they just close their eyes, people will have no choice," he said.

In fact, most people who get a new computer will end up with Vista. In 2008, 94 percent of new Windows machines for consumers worldwide will run Vista, forecasts industry research group IDC. For businesses, about 75 percent of new PCs will have Vista. (That figure takes into account companies that choose to downgrade to XP.)

Although Microsoft may not budge on selling new copies of XP, it may have to extend support for it.

Al Gillen, an IDC analyst, estimated that at the end of 2008 nearly 60 percent of consumer PCs and almost 70 percent of business PCs worldwide will still run XP. Microsoft plans to end full support - including warranty claims and free help with problems - in April 2009. The company will continue providing a more limited level of service until April 2014.

Gillen said efforts like Gruman's grass-roots petition may not influence the software maker, but business customers' demands should carry more clout.

"You really can't make 69 percent of your installed base unhappy with you," he said.

Some companies - such as Wells Manufacturing Co. in Woodstock, Ill. - are crossing their fingers that he's right. The company, which melts scrap steel and casts iron bars, has 200 PCs that run Windows 2000 or XP. (Windows 2000 is no longer sold on PCs. Mainstream support has ended, but limited support is available through the middle of 2010.)

Wells usually replaces 50 of its PCs every 18 months. In the most recent round of purchases, Chief Information Officer Lou Peterhans said, the company stuck with XP because several of its applications don't run well on Vista.

"There is no strong reason to go to Vista, other than eventually losing support for XP," he said. Peterhans added that the company isn't planning to bring in Vista computers for 18 months to two years. If Microsoft keeps to its current timetable, its next operating system, code-named Windows 7, will be on the market by then.

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On the Net:

Save XP Petition: http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/

Microsoft's Windows support timeline: http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: computer; microsoft; mswindows; vista; xp
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Neat policy. Make you product obsolete on a schedule.............
1 posted on 04/14/2008 6:23:54 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: ShadowAce

Ping!...............


2 posted on 04/14/2008 6:24:18 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

Not this boy. I’m just itching to give a mac a try.


3 posted on 04/14/2008 6:25:48 AM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Red Badger

“”It sort of hit us that, wait a minute, XP will be gone as of June 30. What are we going to do?” he said. “If no one does something, it’s going to be gone.””

Question, is the 6/30 deadline for the sale of XP or sale AND support?


4 posted on 04/14/2008 6:25:55 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Red Badger

“Neat policy. Make you product obsolete on a schedule.............”

The American auto industry was doing it before the Japanese came along. ;)


5 posted on 04/14/2008 6:26:33 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Red Badger

Microsoft’s next OS will be called “Ctrlaltdelete”


6 posted on 04/14/2008 6:27:08 AM PDT by Perdogg (Reagan would have never said "She's my girl")
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To: Red Badger

I have Vista, and must admit that XP is better. Microsoft seems to have a penchant for making things complicated.


7 posted on 04/14/2008 6:28:12 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Perdogg

Heh...hey I saw where Microsoft has already announced Windows 7 and Gates has said it will be ready in 12 months “or so.”

Is this admission that Vista sucks?


8 posted on 04/14/2008 6:28:36 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Slapshot68

No, support end July 1st...................No just kidding, support will continue (for a while, until MS decides they need another OS).............


9 posted on 04/14/2008 6:29:17 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: TheWasteLand
Not this boy. I’m just itching to give a mac a try.

My next computer will be a Mac......probably a laptop.

10 posted on 04/14/2008 6:30:00 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: Red Badger

lol...man my heart just stopped. Thanks a lot. ;)


11 posted on 04/14/2008 6:30:04 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Red Badger

I’ve been using Windows XP ever since it came out. I’m happy with it, and I don’t want to change.

I’ve worked with Vista - it’s a bloated piece of crap. Microsoft can have it. I don’t want it.


12 posted on 04/14/2008 6:30:37 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (feh)
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To: TheWasteLand

I, for one, am just about fed up with MS shoving a “new” and “improved” OS on me every couple of years, then pulling the rug out from under me when I buy it. I am seriously considering a MAC..................


13 posted on 04/14/2008 6:31:28 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Slapshot68

No, it’s an admission that once a product is released a new one will follow.

On a related note, I was shocked to find that my local BMW dealer refuses to sell me a 2001 3-series!


14 posted on 04/14/2008 6:33:41 AM PDT by Doohickey ("We cannot insure victory, but we can deserve it" - John Adams)
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To: Red Badger

There is no difference between Gates and the blood-suckers who run the Petroleum industry. They are cut from the same mold.


15 posted on 04/14/2008 6:33:53 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Red Badger

Hey, isn’t that the philosophy that worked so well for the Detroit Big 3 (now the Small 3) auto makers back in the 50s and 60s.

GM, Ford and Chrysler STILL get love notes from Toyota and Nissan. (I’m driving MY second Sienna mini and LOVE it.)

If the ARROGANT Bill Gates follows through with this, I’ll also be adding to Steve Jobs’ fortunes.


16 posted on 04/14/2008 6:34:17 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Brilliant

Yep, I just purchased a new laptop five days ago and Vista stinks! Oh what I’d give to have XP again!


17 posted on 04/14/2008 6:34:39 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Vote Obama! And we'll be picking shrapnel out of our butts for decades!)
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To: Red Badger

There were five years between XP and Vista. Care to re-think that comment?


18 posted on 04/14/2008 6:34:40 AM PDT by Doohickey ("We cannot insure victory, but we can deserve it" - John Adams)
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To: Red Badger

To late. Already starting to convert to Apples.: )
See ya MS.


19 posted on 04/14/2008 6:34:43 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (All my bullets are dipped in PIG fat. How about yours?)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

What’s stinky about it?


20 posted on 04/14/2008 6:35:04 AM PDT by Doohickey ("We cannot insure victory, but we can deserve it" - John Adams)
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