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The Face of a Prophet [George Soros re economy and US Dollar]
New York Times ^ | Aprill 11, 2008 | Louise STory

Posted on 04/11/2008 5:31:47 AM PDT by AndyJackson

...Mr. Soros, one the world’s most successful investors and richest men, leapt out of retirement last summer to safeguard his fortune and legacy. Alarmed by the unfolding crisis in the financial markets, he once again began trading for his giant hedge fund — and won big while so many others lost.

Mr. Soros has always been a controversial figure. But he is becoming more so with a new, dire forecast for the world economy. .... “I consider this the biggest financial crisis of my lifetime,” Mr. Soros said during an interview Monday in his office overlooking Central Park. A “superbubble” that has been swelling for a quarter of a century is finally bursting, he said.

.... Mr. Soros, a fierce critic of the Bush administration, faults regulators for allowing the buildup of the housing and mortgage bubbles. He envisions a time, not so distant, when the dollar is no longer the world’s main currency and people will have a harder time borrowing money.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: economy; soros
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To: live+let_live

Yeah, if I had no moral scruples, or any loyalty to anyone but myself, I could probably make a lot of money.


21 posted on 04/11/2008 6:20:16 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: popdonnelly

“The difference is that Soros gives them money.”
You got that right.
Greed begets greed... those on the Soros payroll don’t care what they do to get rich, hopefully they will devour/destroy themselves...honest folk MUST discern and be shrewd...
Psalm 18:26 NKJV “With the pure you will show yourself pure; and the the devious you will show yourself shrewd.”


22 posted on 04/11/2008 6:34:09 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: AndyJackson; All

Actually, I agree with Soros on one point here. There is a superbubble that will be bursting soon in the USA. Perhaps a better word for it than burst is boom. Baby Boom, that is.

I suggest for your reading a couple of books by investor Harry S. Dent. The first one was written back in the early 90s and is called the Great Boom Ahead. The second was written in 04 or 05 and is called The Next Great Bubble Boom. Both detail his predictions for the economy long-term. One of the things he focuses on in both books is the effects of demographics connected with different sectors of the economy. He especially focuses on spending patterns related to the Baby Boom generation. This generation essentially came in 3 waves with the last of the 3 being the largest. That last wave has just now gone past its peak spending age. Demographically, we are set for an economic slowdown.

I really hate that I am in agreement with him on this particular issue, but I do believe that he is correct. There are other forces at work that he does not see, but the demographics do back up his superbubble remark.


23 posted on 04/11/2008 6:52:37 AM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: live+let_live
In the financial game the score is kept with money....
Correction: In the game of life the score is kept with money, and/or with those things obtained with money, e.g. Lenin had a real taste for Rolls-Royace automobiles.

..Soros made a lot so by definition he was right.
Life is a gamble and money -- in whatever form-- is the reward for having taken chances, not for being right.

24 posted on 04/11/2008 6:52:40 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: AndyJackson
The market will decide what is the best currency to use, not George Soros.

One factor that weighs against the Dollar is that all dollar account in non-US banks really reside in that bank's account of in their correspondent US bank. All it takes is the signature of a single federal judge to seize that account. At order could come because of civil litigation or because the accountholder ran afoul of US law even though he never set foot in the US, only his money did.

The seizure factor alone is, IMO, responsible for Iran (a nation documented to fund terrorist groups) to selling its oil in Euros. Hugo Chavez had millions seized in a civil dispute with a US oil firm.

Euros are harder to seize because of jurisdiction issues among the many banks that operate correspondent accounts for non-Euro banks.

25 posted on 04/11/2008 6:54:15 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: live+let_live

Exactly. He’s king of the dirtbags, but he’s also a very smart trader.

Now, if there’s manipulation and other assorted illegalities going on, hang him high.


26 posted on 04/11/2008 6:57:41 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, weÂ’re still retarded.)
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To: yankeedame

“In the game of life the score is kept with money”

I have to disagree with you here. There are so many things that make a life valuable besides money.


27 posted on 04/11/2008 7:02:11 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: stefanbatory
“That last wave has just now gone past its peak spending age. Demographically, we are set for an economic slowdown.”

That is a fascinating thought. I'm going to have to pick up that book.

Thanks for the tip.

28 posted on 04/11/2008 7:04:40 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: live+let_live
"This is a story about money, not morality."

Amen, Brother. The plain and simple fact is, I think this A$$hole is right, no matter his political or philosophical underpinnings. I do not think it wise to kill the Messenger for things unrelated to the message.

29 posted on 04/11/2008 7:06:56 AM PDT by Doneit
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To: AndyJackson

30 posted on 04/11/2008 7:12:08 AM PDT by april15Bendovr (Free Republic & Ron Paul Cult = oxymoron)
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To: live+let_live
I have to disagree with your post here. I DO agree about your sentiments re: Money and it's role in life. However, I am a believer that, after all is said and done, in many aspects of life, profit or loss is an indicator of the correctness of the choice.

Should it be the only measure? NO! Does it provide a basis for distilling out the emotion and irrationality of the Human decision making process? YES!

We could have a multi-hour discussion on this topic but this is the Cliff Notes version from this writer.

31 posted on 04/11/2008 7:13:04 AM PDT by Doneit
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To: nyconse
...we will prevail.

Not necessarily. And we are in very serious trouble.

32 posted on 04/11/2008 7:40:15 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Ann Archy
George Soros is EVIL INCARNATE!! He destests AMERICA and he and Warren Buffet wwere shorting the dollar years ago!!

And they were correct to do so. Our dollar's problem and indeed the country's, is our absolutely irresponsible government. The root of which is our people. The general voting majority of which are ignorant, foolish children. Soros is a brilliant opportunist and Buffet has become a guilty rich guy. They are just taking advantage of a situation of our governments making.

33 posted on 04/11/2008 7:55:10 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Nuc1

must be nice when you get get the whisper numbers...


34 posted on 04/11/2008 8:03:24 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SolidWood

The sooner Soros assumes room temperature the better.


35 posted on 04/11/2008 8:04:02 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: longtermmemmory
must be nice when you get get the whisper numbers...

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36 posted on 04/11/2008 8:12:15 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: AndyJackson

Translation: I envsion a time when it will be harder for people to be like me.


37 posted on 04/11/2008 8:12:18 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: stefanbatory
Certainly there are demographic issues, not just for us, but for all of the European and/or advanced countries. This is something that must be---but can be---dealt with. First, the subsidies for just living to 65 must stop. People are not "old" at 65 any more. Second, everything must be privatized, from health care to flood insurance. The only alternative is to out-grow the "crisis," because you certainly cannot "contain" it by redistributing wealth.

It's not a question of if this can or will be done, but when, and how bad things will get before 95% of the "youts" join with the 30% of the "old coots" who have common sense and end this nonsense.

SOME of it could be handled by reasonable, legal immigration---but whatever the solutions, I do not see people suddenly having more children.

38 posted on 04/11/2008 8:18:15 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Nuc1

the unpublished information you obtain by talking to the upper echelon right people.


39 posted on 04/11/2008 8:24:55 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: live+let_live

downturn was a bit of an understatement. There is essentially an 80 year economic cycle according to Mr. Dent...I’ll let you do the subtraction.


40 posted on 04/11/2008 8:30:09 AM PDT by stefanbatory
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