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Mary And The Moslems(The Virgin Mother Mary & Islam)
catholicculture.org ^ | John Boland

Posted on 04/06/2008 6:51:05 PM PDT by kellynla

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1 posted on 04/06/2008 6:51:07 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: Salvation; NYer; narses

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2 posted on 04/06/2008 6:51:43 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Blogging the Qur’an: Sura 19, “Mary”"

And for "fun":

Islam's not for me starring CAIR bears

3 posted on 04/06/2008 6:57:25 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: kellynla

I agree that Our Lady may be a powerful aid in converting Muslims, but the author’s idea that they are “unconvertible” is not correct. Islam is the only “religion” that has been spread entirely by violence and war and which hangs over the head of its followers like a sword ready to drop on them at any moment, and has the full power of the law and the state behind it (because it IS the law and the state). In other words, they’re afraid.

There are actually supposedly many Christian converts in Muslim countries, but they don’t dare to acknowledge it. I think the question of how we can free Muslims from that is a very difficult one. But I’m sure Our Lady can definitely help with it!


4 posted on 04/06/2008 7:09:26 PM PDT by livius
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To: kellynla
At the present time, the hatred of the Moslem countries against the West is becoming a hatred against Christianity itself.

If Jesus was sent to save human kind then Muhamed was used as a tool to eliminate the followers of christ. Until the catholic church admits this fact - that Islam was created to checkmate the existence of Jesus - we are all doomed.

5 posted on 04/06/2008 7:19:37 PM PDT by x_plus_one ("let them eat cake, drive small electric cars and take the bus")
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To: x_plus_one
Note how the muslims have already started their re-invasion of the Balkans attempting to create a Neo-Ottoman presence there. And considering it was America that enabled them it only makes it that much more sad. With regards to a painfully poor understanding of what Christians are up against, America has allowed Saudi money to drive American foreign policy.

Let America beware, Europe is being islamicized and your next.

6 posted on 04/06/2008 7:42:08 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: montyspython
"Let America beware, Europe is being islamicized and your next."

Let America beware, Europe is being islamicized and you're next.

7 posted on 04/06/2008 7:43:22 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: kellynla

http://www.zeitun-eg.org/stmaridx.htm

Muslims that saw this in Egypt will never forget it.


8 posted on 04/06/2008 7:52:15 PM PDT by badpacifist (They say your head can be a prison Then, these are just conjugal visits.)
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To: badpacifist

http://www.zeitun-eg.org/zeitun_en.rm

video of event


9 posted on 04/06/2008 7:56:13 PM PDT by badpacifist (They say your head can be a prison Then, these are just conjugal visits.)
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To: kellynla; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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10 posted on 04/06/2008 8:21:31 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: kellynla
In 1952, the late Bishop Fulton Sheen devoted a chapter in his book The World's First Love (Garden City Books, Garden City, N.Y.) — entitled "Mary and the Moslems" — to this significant query. Following are Bishop Sheen's observations; more significant now perhaps than when written 49 years ago.

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This brings us to our second point: namely, why the Blessed Mother, in the 20th century should have revealed herself in the significant little village of Fatima, so that to all future generations she would be known as "Our Lady of Fatima." Since nothing ever happens out of Heaven except with a finesse of all details, I believe that the Blessed Virgin chose to be known as "Our Lady of Fatima" as a pledge and a sign of hope to the Moslem people, and as an assurance that they, who show her so much respect, will one day accept her divine Son too.

Evidence to support these views is found in the historical fact that the Moslems occupied Portugal for centuries. At the time when they were finally driven out, the last Moslem chief had a beautiful daughter by the name of Fatima. A Catholic boy fell in love with her, and for him she not only stayed behind when the Moslems left, but even embraced the Faith. The young husband was so much in love with her that he changed the name of the town where he lived to Fatima. Thus, the very place where our Lady appeared in 1917 bears a historical connection to Fatima, the daughter of Mohammed.

The final evidence of the relationship of Fatima to the Moslems is the enthusiastic reception, which the Moslems in Africa and India and elsewhere gave to the Pilgrim statue of Our Lady of Fatima, as mentioned earlier. Moslems attended the church services in honor of Our Lady, they allowed religious processions and even prayers before their mosques; and in Mozambique the Moslems who were unconverted, began to be Christian as soon as the statue of Our Lady of Fatima was erected.

Very interesting that Bishop Sheen should have written this. Check out my 2007 post that reprints a Zenit news story in it's entirety, which reported on an Iranian television program claim that the Lady of Fatima wasn't Jesus' mother, but rather was the Prophet Mohammed's daughter.

11 posted on 04/06/2008 8:27:34 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: kellynla

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12 posted on 04/06/2008 8:34:49 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: kellynla
Not too many are familiar with Lepanto -- the story of hoe Mary saved Eurpoe through prayer from the Muslims.

Lepanto, 1571: The Battle That Saved Europe

Celebrating the Battle of Lepanto

Clash of civilizations: Battle of Lepanto revisited

Lepanto, Bertone e Battesimo, Oh My!

Lepanto Sunday

Our Lady of the Rosary of La Naval (A Mini-Lepanto in the Philippines)

Swiss Guards at the Battle of Lepanto, 7 October 1571

Battle of Lepanto

LEPANTO, 7 OCTOBER 1571: The Defense of Europe

Battle of Lepanto

Remember Lepanto!

The Battle of Lepanto

On This Day In History, The Battle of Lepanto

The Battle of Lepanto

Chesterton's Lepanto

The Miracle At Lepanto...

Lepanto

The Naval Battle of Lepanto

The Battle of Lepanto

Call to Prayer 12:00 EST 17 November: This Lepanto Moment [Read only]

A Call To Prayer: This Lepanto Moment[Read only]

13 posted on 04/06/2008 8:36:46 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

OOPS!

Not too many are familiar with Lepanto — the story of how Mary saved Eurpoe through prayer from the Muslims.


14 posted on 04/06/2008 8:38:08 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: montyspython

“Let America beware, Europe is being islamicized and you’re next.”

Unfu**ing believable that a country can predict its own demise as a nation and do nothing about it. Talking about a lamb being led to slaughter and not even protest. None of the candidates for POTUS even mentions it in any way. Even blowhards like Rush, Sean or Mark are mute on the subject.

And in the meantime, our brave men and women in uniform are expected to lay down their lives to defend this country. Wow, talking about loyalty and dedication to a country that does not reciprocate their fidelity.


15 posted on 04/06/2008 8:53:20 PM PDT by 353FMG (Vote for the Candidate who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: Alex Murphy

It is a foolish effort to believe that muslims will ever accept Jesus as divine or give any credence to His death by crucifixion or His resurrection.

Muslims believe that Mohammed was the last prophet. To “correct” the writings of Mohammed is to try to establish a “false” Islam.

The TRUE reform comes when muslims leave Islam to return to the Old and/or New Testament of the Judeo-Christian Bible as Jews or Christians depending on their acceptance of Jesus Christ.

And it is also foolish to marvel at the number of muslims in this world or to boast of the number of conversions TO Islam when many muslim nations prohibit muslims from being anything BUT a muslim. The religious identity (at least tabulated on a census) is not chosen, it is imposed by Islamic tyranny.

Sort of like how many atheists lived in the USSR.


16 posted on 04/06/2008 9:37:40 PM PDT by weegee (March 18th, 2008 Obama~"I did NOT listen to the sermons of that man, Jeremiah Wright...")
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To: kellynla
Missionaries in the future will, more and more, see that their apostolate among the Moslems will be successful in the measure that they preach Our Lady of Fatima.

I don't think so. Having "Christian" missionaries preaching a deity other than the Triune God of the Bible does not sound like Christian missions to me. Marian apparitions in particular carve out zones of weirdness in popular culture. At the risk of being branded a whiner and loser, let me predict that the course of future Muslim evangelism will center around Jesus, not around a peripheral figure.

Now is a good time to be learning Turkish, Farsi, and/or Arabic. If God the Father answers our prayers made in the name of Jesus the Son (not Mary the Mother) and acts through the Person of the Spirit to discredit Islam overnight (Hey, it happened with Soviet Communism!) -- may we be ready for the great harvest.

17 posted on 04/07/2008 1:31:47 AM PDT by RJR_fan (Winners and lovers shape the future. Whiners and losers TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
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To: livius

Well what took place a few weeks ago at St. Peter’s in Rome with the Pope baptizing a former Muslim is a start.


18 posted on 04/07/2008 2:34:12 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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To: kellynla

“the Koran believes in her Immaculate Conception, and also, in her Virgin Birth”

Nothing in The Bible about that. The Scripture does mention all of Mary and Joseph’s kids, though. (Matthew 13:55)


19 posted on 04/07/2008 4:50:54 AM PDT by RoadTest ( None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies - Isaiah)
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To: RoadTest

The Perpetual Virginity of Blessed Mary
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3007.htm


20 posted on 04/07/2008 5:01:43 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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