By the same token, it's interesting that they deny the LDS practice polygamy, and here they are on all the polygamy threads defending it. The more they defend it, the more folks are reminded of their own polygamous history. If I were still mormon, I'd stay far away from polygamy in any form.
It's entertaining, to say the least.
You say you were LDS once but many time I read your replies and wondered what you really understood in those days!
You make such leaps that we don't like the Bible when it to is another witness to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Seven care to add to this?
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By the same token, it's interesting that they deny the LDS practice polygamy, and here they are on all the polygamy threads defending it. The more they defend it, the more folks are reminded of their own polygamous history. If I were still mormon, I'd stay far away from polygamy in any form.
greyfoxx39 this is what is annoying you and many others like to speak for us or put words in our mouths.
I have said many times that plural marriage in many ways was a beautiful things.
Because of the caliber of souls who have entered the earth.
Personally I understood Plural marriage would not be with drawn until all of God purpose was completed.
These two ordinance plural marriage and the priesthood being open to all worthy males are most likely the two most dificult and misunderstood manifesto.
Many non members like to blame the LDS as though they had the say, when it was the Lord call and only the Lord knew when mission was completed.
I fine when one is sincere and study the scriptures as well as ponder that many times in the mind's eye will come pure understanding not only that but appreciation in thing work in the scheme of things.
God knows all our hearts and minds and when we as a people are ready to take on more of what he has in store for us.
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DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS SECTION 132
51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
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-—”I’m enjoying watching the cognitive dissonance of the mormons here whose creed states “We believe in the Bible as far as it is correctly translated...”
Very VERY good point.
-—”By the same token, it’s interesting that they deny the LDS practice polygamy, and here they are on all the polygamy threads defending it.”
Yes. It would be very amusing if it were not so sad.
By the same token, it's interesting that they deny the LDS practice polygamy, and here they are on all the polygamy threads defending it. The more they defend it, the more folks are reminded of their own polygamous history. If I were still mormon, I'd stay far away from polygamy in any form. It's entertaining, to say the least.
________________________________________________________________________________________ Yeah, entertaining indeed. You guys are so quick to judge ancient and modern (late 1800's) prophets who practiced polygamy as a horrible thing, and yet, where would you Protestants be without the Reformation and Martin Luther:
"I confess that I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture. If a man wishes to marry more than one wife he should be asked whether he is satisfied in his conscience that he may do so in accordance with the word of God. In such a case the civil authority has nothing to do in the matter." Martin Luther - (De Wette II, 459, ibid., pp. 329-330.)
Well, I think one reason why is there's a "love-hate" relationship by LDS with polygamy. The "hate" part is...
...the reputation it emits;
...the reminder that their ancestors were part of an overt law-breaking sub-culture--often using intentional deception in the 1880s, 1890s, and 1900s to continue its practice;
...the overt linkage it establishes with the fLDS;
...and the eternal light it shines on a part of their "Scripture" (D&C 132)-- a part's neon light which was supposed to have been turned off & rendered moot in 1890--but hasn't been.
Contemporary Mormons' "love" affair with polygamy is that they believe most or all of those 19th century & early 20th century LDS polygamists are still alive & are still practicing polygamy in the celestial kingdom...plus any contemporary LDS who were serially married to women & who were sealed to each in the temple "for eternity" would likewise, under this belief, be eternal polygamists!!! [There's just no escaping polygamy for the mainstream Mormon church!!!]
Look at how Mitt Romney was "Poster Boy" for exemplifying this "love-hate" relationship with polygamy. On the one hand, his great-grandfather (not great-great grandfather as he was quoted below), was a polygamous man who married his fifth wife 7 years after the LDS "prophet" publicly said, "No more new plural marriages." So how did Mitt respond to CBS last year on the campaign trail? (He said polygamy was "awful"):
"I have a great-great grandfather. They were trying to build a generation out there in the desert and so he took additional wives as he was told to do," Romney...said..."And I must admit I can't imagine anything more awful than polygamy."
The "love" part, of course, comes, in that who can fail to stop loving their family & relatives?
But the "love-hate" relationship of polygamy is inherent in the very core of the practice. Joseph Smith's 14-year-old plural wife, Helen Mar Kimball, said at first she "hated" polygamy. It was often the case that the earlier wives would resent the add-on wives. It locked the ugly reality of jealousy into the very nature of the relationship!
Take a look at Romney's great-grandfather, Miles Park Romney, who took his 5th wife, Millie Eyring Snow, in 1897 at the age of 54. According to an author whose ancestors were polygamists, "Millie Snow was a widow of Erastus Snow, had considerable monehy, and was resented by first four wives because of husband's attention of her." (Solemn Covenant, B. Carmon Hardy, appendix)
Imagine being the women marrying Miles Park Romney...Hannah, who is his same age, 19...but then 5 years later comes Caroline, age 21...then 6 years later comes Cathrine--she's 18, Miles is 30...then 4 years later is Annie--she's 18 or 19, Miles is 34. Then they all get established as a clan for 20 years--each of the 4 wives bearing Miles babies--only for yet a fifth (wealthy)wife to enter the scene & capture all this attention from the household patriarch.
BTW, like father, like son...one of Romney's sons was Miles Archibald Romney, who married all 3 of his plural wives after the manifesto which supposedly "halted" polygamy (1898, 1902, 1909). These were the "add-on" wives to his first wife, who Miles Archibald Romney married when she was 16 (maybe 15).