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To: greyfoxx39
I'm enjoying watching the cognitive dissonance of the mormons here whose creed states "We believe in the Bible as far as it is correctly translated, cite the Bible to defend the theory that Jesus was the descendant of polygamists, while they vehemently deny that Joseph Smith had ANY children with any of his 33+ polygamous wives.

By the same token, it's interesting that they deny the LDS practice polygamy, and here they are on all the polygamy threads defending it. The more they defend it, the more folks are reminded of their own polygamous history. If I were still mormon, I'd stay far away from polygamy in any form. It's entertaining, to say the least.

________________________________________________________________________________________ Yeah, entertaining indeed. You guys are so quick to judge ancient and modern (late 1800's) prophets who practiced polygamy as a horrible thing, and yet, where would you Protestants be without the Reformation and Martin Luther:

"I confess that I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture. If a man wishes to marry more than one wife he should be asked whether he is satisfied in his conscience that he may do so in accordance with the word of God. In such a case the civil authority has nothing to do in the matter." Martin Luther - (De Wette II, 459, ibid., pp. 329-330.)

964 posted on 04/07/2008 1:32:03 PM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: sevenbak
You guys are so quick to judge ancient and modern (late 1800's) prophets who practiced polygamy as a horrible thing, and yet, where would you Protestants be without the Reformation and Martin Luther:

#14???

966 posted on 04/07/2008 1:34:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
"I confess that I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict the Scripture. If a man wishes to marry more than one wife he should be asked whether he is satisfied in his conscience that he may do so in accordance with the word of God. In such a case the civil authority has nothing to do in the matter."

Martin Luther - (De Wette II, 459, ibid., pp. 329-330.)


And yet, the leaders of the LDS Organization, Inc. - in the 1890's - DID have enough POWER to stop plural marriages!

Amazing; ain't it!

967 posted on 04/07/2008 1:35:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
Yeah, entertaining indeed. You guys are so quick to judge ancient and modern (late 1800's) prophets who practiced polygamy as a horrible thing, and yet, where would you Protestants be without the Reformation and Martin Luther:

Do you see any of us on these threads DEFENDING polygamy? Do you see any of us claiming that Martin Luther is a "prophet" who was spoken to by God/God and Jesus, depending on which vision you are quoting? Where is the evidence that Martin Luther himself was a polygamist? Do you have any proof that Martin Luther claimed that polygamy was DOCTRINE as shown here:

“... if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse another, and the first give her consent, and if he espouses the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then he is justified.”
- Doctrine and Covenants, Section 132, verse 61

"And if Joseph Smith have ten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore he is justified for they are given unto him to multiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be glorified."
- Doctrine and Covenants 132:62-63

The D&C is STILL doctrine, is it not?

Lastly, let's see where Martin Luther related a comparable experience to this: "The same God that has thus far dictated me and directed me and strengthened me in this work, gave me this revelation and commandment on celestial and plural marriage, and the same God commanded me to obey it. He said to me that unless I accepted it, and introduced it, and practiced it, I, together with my people would be damned and cut off from this time henceforth. We have got to observe it. It is an eternal principle and was given by way of commandment and not by way of instruction." - Prophet Joseph Smith, Contributor, Vol. 5, p. 259

Nice attempt at a red herring, but it falls flat.

1,045 posted on 04/07/2008 3:29:15 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (An "Inconvenient Truth".....Save the Earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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