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Liberals Debunking Indoctrination Charge
Outside The Wire ^ | Bob Parks

Posted on 03/28/2008 7:24:59 AM PDT by bocopar

While many on the left are super-sensitive when it comes to any inference of voter disenfranchisement or coercion, their thin skins have emerged when it comes to the ongoing charge of liberal indoctrination in academia, demonstrated by the current rise of all things Obamanation.

How else to debunk a conspiracy theory on liberal indoctrination in schools? Try a survey conducted by academics.

According to the Associated Press,

“The research, to be published later this year in the journal PS: Political Science and Politics, analyzes separate surveys on the attitudes of about 6,800 students at 38 universities and how they changed between freshman and senior year. Then it examines whether those results are affected by the political attitudes of the faculty at their particular schools.”

“The short answer is no, according to researchers Gordon Hewitt of Hamilton College (an active Democrat) and Mack Mariani of Xavier University (who has worked for Republicans).”

Of course not.

(Excerpt) Read more at intelradionetwork.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aninconvenienttruth; anotherstudy; dnctalkingpoints; indoctrination; littleredschoolhouse; pc; politicalcorrectness; politicallycorrect; publicschools; reeducationcenters; taxdollarsatwork; thoughtcrime

1 posted on 03/28/2008 7:24:59 AM PDT by bocopar
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To: bocopar

Wow. Well, I’ll have to admit that this result was a suprise to me, but, well, it was a scientific study, so I guess this just answers the question once and for all.


3 posted on 03/28/2008 7:28:57 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (New tag line in progress.)
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To: bocopar
Gordon Hewitt of Hamilton College (an active Democrat) and Mack Mariani of Xavier University (who has worked for Republicans)

LOL. OK. One have one lifelong active Democrat and this other guy who once worked for someone who might have been a Republican. That sounds bi-partisan and unbiased to me.

4 posted on 03/28/2008 7:34:32 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: bocopar

In essence, what the liberals are saying is “nuh-uh uh”.


5 posted on 03/28/2008 7:37:28 AM PDT by subterfuge (Obama will NOT get the nomination.)
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To: bocopar

“The left will have students captive in school for almost all of September and October, whipping them into a political frenzy before November fourth.”

Precisely the reason Illinois is looking to lower the State voting age to 17!


6 posted on 03/28/2008 7:37:32 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: NurdlyPeon
...well, it was a scientific study, so I guess this just answers the question once and for all.

Yep, just like global cooling . . . uh, global warming . . . oops, global cooling again.

7 posted on 03/28/2008 7:37:36 AM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: NurdlyPeon

Of course, anybody who has performed any real lab studies will tell you that results can easily be preordained depending on the methodology used. Frankly, I find it hard to trust any standalone study. We usually get closer to facts when an agregate of studies are considered.


8 posted on 03/28/2008 7:38:54 AM PDT by SirFishalot
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To: bocopar

Liberal indoctrination in the social sciences is a reality. The proper way to evaluate this problem would have been to have mature, 3rd party observers secretly attending classes over a period of time.


9 posted on 03/28/2008 7:40:38 AM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: bocopar

One thing from the article that jumped out at me was the left’s swerve into the truth of “self selection”.

Yeah, it’s OK for “self selection” to put more leftists in positions to teach in academia.

But it’s NOT OK for “self selection” to provide for disparate outcomes in certain fields of study, certain professions or sports.

In those cases, we need to use government (forced) quota systems to make sure these outcomes work according to what leftists want.


10 posted on 03/28/2008 7:43:23 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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“Explanations for academia's political tilt vary. Conservatives tend to blame discrimination and indoctrination, saying academic culture purges out views it doesn't like. Others contend it's self-selection — that liberals have personality traits that make them more likely to go into academia.”

“Self-selection.” Isn’t that special.

"Self-selection". Yeah, when faced with a blacklist on promotion and hiring, the applicants do tend to dry up (or become silent about their contrary political views).

11 posted on 03/28/2008 7:46:12 AM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Obama)
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To: bocopar

Considering most of them have been indoctrinated for 13 years already before they even reach college..if they haven’t been indoctrinated out of wanting to succeed as anything other than as property of the State, and already “Turned On, Tuned In, and Dropped Out”.


12 posted on 03/28/2008 7:47:37 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Fall on your knees! Oh hear, the angels voices)
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To: navyguy

They say that the teachers may preach their politics but that liberal professors have “little effect” on swaying non-liberals to the liberal viewpoint. But what does it do to keep “searching” libs on the plantation and fed with a steady diet of misinformation?


13 posted on 03/28/2008 7:47:49 AM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Obama)
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To: Always Right

There was a Democrat who “worked for Republicans” when she sent the Bush debate rehearsal videotape to the Gore Campaign.

And there was a Rolling Stoned journalist who did research from within the Bush 2004 campaign staff.

And now the Left is concerned that Project Chaos may seat Republicans as DNC Convention delegates.


14 posted on 03/28/2008 7:54:47 AM PDT by weegee (Famous moments in history: March 18th, 2008 “I have a bridge (to sell you)...” - Barack H. Obama)
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To: weegee

“liberals have personality traits that make them more likely to go into academia.”

I wholeheartedly believe this! Heck, those that CAN, DO and those that CAN’T, TEACH.


15 posted on 03/28/2008 9:30:56 AM PDT by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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To: SirFishalot
Lab? This took place at a University by asking people their opinion. The study may have been conducted “scientifically” but any study that involves asking peoples opinion is not and never will be “Science”; let alone lab studies.
16 posted on 03/28/2008 9:33:41 AM PDT by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
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