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1 posted on 03/28/2008 2:49:09 AM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

The former officials are Colin Powell, Henry Kissinger, James Baker, Warren Christopher and Madeleine Albright, and worked for Democratic and Republican administrations.

There’s the names of the people I won’t be looking for advice from, from here on out.

Baker, I thought you had more sense than that. Yikes.


2 posted on 03/28/2008 2:52:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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All five of them are members in good standing of the dementia wing of the Autocratic Party. Negotiate with Iran. Me things Mahamood subscribes to the delay whilst I enrich enouh gas to deliver my negotiation directly to Tel Aviv.
“The former officials are Colin Powell, Henry Kissinger, James Baker, Warren Christopher and Madeleine Albright, and worked for Democratic and Republican administrations.”


3 posted on 03/28/2008 2:52:43 AM PDT by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: Flavius

James Baker and Hank Kissenger.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Reagan and Nixon would not be proud.


4 posted on 03/28/2008 2:53:07 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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Each says closing the facility in Cuba would bolster America's image abroad.

How, why, with whom, for what, seriously?

More likely they will (rightly) take it as an admission of error and guilt, and attacks will intensify on other "fronts". "Ugly is only skin-deep, but stupidity is to the bone"...

6 posted on 03/28/2008 2:56:05 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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Sounds like some major arm twisting and favor call ins to me.


10 posted on 03/28/2008 3:07:39 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Once you give up your integrity, the rest is downhill)
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A Look at Iran:

http://www.truthusa.com/IRAN.html


11 posted on 03/28/2008 3:10:06 AM PDT by Cindy
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Each says closing the facility in Cuba would bolster America's image abroad

ah well first I don't care who likes us and who doesn't right now.

Second, if we suddenly opened a carbon market , signed kyoto, raised gas prices to mirror europe ( just to fit in ) , socialized medicine and adopted the old French work week.......they would still hate us.

12 posted on 03/28/2008 3:10:22 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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Senator Joseph McCarthy sent this telegram to President Truman two days after claiming that he had identified "205 card-carrying" members of the Communist party working in the U.S. State Department.

A draft of President Harry Truman's unsent 1950 response to Senator Joseph McCarthy (R-WI), who had sent Truman a breathless six-page telegram vowing to bring down the careers of 57 "communist" State Department employees.

Too bad for the State Dept that the de-classifed Verona cables that emerged from the collapsed Soviet Union proved that the State Dept was infested with Communists - including Alger Hiss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alger_Hiss

How much should we trust the State Dept?

14 posted on 03/28/2008 3:17:03 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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“Colin Powell, Henry Kissinger, James Baker, Warren Christopher and Madeleine Albright”

I see Alexander Haig aint in there. Ha!

20 posted on 03/28/2008 4:01:51 AM PDT by ryan71
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Why do you think they're "ex" secretaries of state?
23 posted on 03/28/2008 4:15:06 AM PDT by shekkian
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ch says closing the facility in Cuba would bolster America's image abroad.

I am so tired of that old saw. Countries hate America out of jealousy. The only way to 'please' them is for our country to be destroyed.

24 posted on 03/28/2008 4:24:21 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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Each says closing the facility in Cuba would bolster America's image abroad.

Why is this important?

25 posted on 03/28/2008 4:24:46 AM PDT by Spirochete
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GoPM to 5 Ex-Secretaries:

FU

28 posted on 03/28/2008 4:35:42 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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I used to think that Baker was a fairly sensible and straight individual.

Not any longer.


31 posted on 03/28/2008 4:47:52 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (feh)
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Improving America's image abroad, making us feel good, etc., these are not valid reasons to close Guantanamo. If improving our image abroad is a motivation for domestic policy changes, why not institute socialized medicine, raise taxes, give more money to the U.N.?

Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention our image abroad. Nowhere in the oath of office of any elected or appointed official does it mention our image abroad. These oaths do say support and defend the Constitution.

This is about defending America, plain and simple. Perhaps Guantanamo has outlived its usefulness. If so, send the prisoners back to their third world governments for disposal in the prison systems of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other countries. If it improves our image to send some Saudi jihadist to chop-chop square in Riyadh, I'll support it.

32 posted on 03/28/2008 4:56:07 AM PDT by magellan
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I’m afraid that no matter who wins this election, the terrorist in Gitmo will be released & our world will be a less safe place. l the candidates seem to want to aid our enemies, just so we’ll “look good” to the rest of the world. (Which will continue to hate us for what we are anyway)


33 posted on 03/28/2008 5:10:44 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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Gee, what a shock! All flaming Pinko Commie Libs!


34 posted on 03/28/2008 5:25:14 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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Each says closing the facility in Cuba would bolster America's image abroad.

The American image should be the 900 pound gorilla who is nice to his friends and deadly to his enemies.

38 posted on 03/28/2008 6:23:54 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Energy plan: Build refineries and nuke plants, drill for our oil, mine our coal.)
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Colin Powell = P.O.S. in my eyes.


46 posted on 03/28/2008 10:55:15 AM PDT by McGruff (Support Rush's Operation CHAOS - Crush Hillary And Obama Simultaneously)
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.......Each says closing the facility in Cuba would bolster America's image abroad.......

Of courrrrrrrrse it would. (+Sarc) Mmm Hmmm, So now that we've opened it, used it, let's just close it down because we're never going to find another Al-Qaeda Representative, Ever, are we. What type of thinking is this?

It ISN"T as if all the countries of the world are going to FORGET that we had a Prison in Guantanamo Bay. It isn't as if it hasn't done ALOT of good, prevented multiple future crimes against America and Travelling Americans in general, because it has. Anyone who thinks otherwise can choose to keep their blinders on about the threat to our country. Just don't come to my house for food and safety when the next Holocaust occurs, O.K.? Learn to defend yourself and don't think the gov't is going to do it for you. Well, you can think that, but you're 100% dead if you believe you can rely on someone else to save your life. (oops, Rant Off)

53 posted on 03/28/2008 2:57:28 PM PDT by Pagey (Horrible Hillary Clinton is Bad For America, Bad For Business and Bad For MY Stomach!)
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