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Father Denied Dying Daughter's Wish (VERY SAD UPDATE FROM O'REILLY FACTOR TONIGHT)
Conservative Vermont Vet | March 27, 2008 | Conservative Vermont Vet

Posted on 03/27/2008 6:14:07 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet

Update: Despite efforts from Fox News to facilitate this dying girl's wish to have her father at her bedise when she passes, the imovable, cold-hearted, beauraucratic, red tape of the Jucidiary, Bureau Of Prisons and U.S. Attorney are intransigent in their unwillingness to bend the "rules" to allow this to happen.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bop; bureaucracy; compassion; corrections; inmates; jayciyaeger; meth; searchworks; yaeger
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but it seems to me that most of the folks who are taking a hard line on this are doing so because they see the furlough request as something whose primary purpose is to benefit the father.

Everything I've read about this case has indicated that his presence at her bedside was requested as a dying wish of the girl.

I see nothing wrong with granting this accommodation under what is clearly an extraordinary circumstance. In fact, if there is a charity out there that raises money to cover the costs of these sorts of things I'd be the first to offer my own contribution.

61 posted on 03/27/2008 8:29:46 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

I will also say a prayer for them.


62 posted on 03/27/2008 8:30:40 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Marysecretary
Compassion? Hardly anyone knows that word anymore. I see people all the time who would rather see another person hurt or disappointed rather than seeing that person happy, even if the favor that is asked for costs nothing. It seems like government employees are some of the worst....
63 posted on 03/27/2008 8:33:33 PM PDT by Quickgun
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To: Marysecretary
Compassion? Hardly anyone knows that word anymore. I see people all the time who would rather see another person hurt or disappointed rather than seeing that person happy, even if the favor that is asked for costs nothing. It seems like government employees are some of the worst....
64 posted on 03/27/2008 8:33:45 PM PDT by Quickgun
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To: caseinpoint

Very good post.


65 posted on 03/27/2008 8:41:49 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Marysecretary
Sometimes I would like to pummel some of these people.

Planning on beating your version of morality into the rest of us? Don't the Muslims do this?

Besides this has already been decided.

Dad allowed to vist dying child.

66 posted on 03/27/2008 8:55:07 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: mimaw
Yeah, I can’t believe the heartless remarks. This child is dying she doesn’t understand what’s going on with her daddy. I sure hope no one here has to rely on the decency of others in a heartbreaking situation like this.

So, any inmate who has a dying child, or spouse, or parent, or sibling should be granted a leave to go visit? Who grants these leaves, and will this require a doctor's note or something? Who's going to verify the millions of inmate requests for these visits? Who is going to supervise all these inmates visiting sick relatives? Are we going to trust hardened criminals to go visit a sick cousin and come back to prison on his own?

67 posted on 03/27/2008 9:07:08 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: SmithL

Well....there goes Death Row, unless you are childless.


68 posted on 03/27/2008 9:26:44 PM PDT by TNdandelion ("I have no doubt that Sen. Clinton would make a good President"--John McCain)
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To: Cementjungle
A dying 10 yr. old child is the subject of this thread. The father is in a minimum security prison and is due to be released in August. He could be given a furlough to spend the last days comforting this little girl as she passes on. I can't be as heartless and sanctimonious as some have been about this case. This man has not only been punished by the law and now he will receive the greatest heartbreak a human being can endure, the lose of a child. If you have never experienced it or had someone close to you endure it I can assure you it is a pain greater than anything that could be administered by the state.
69 posted on 03/27/2008 9:27:11 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: perez24

Was he making meth in the same house that this little girl was living? Children of meth makers suffer many ill effects on their health. :(


70 posted on 03/27/2008 9:31:57 PM PDT by TNdandelion ("I have no doubt that Sen. Clinton would make a good President"--John McCain)
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To: mimaw
A dying 10 yr. old child is the subject of this thread. The father is in a minimum security prison and is due to be released in August. He could be given a furlough to spend the last days comforting this little girl as she passes on. I can't be as heartless and sanctimonious as some have been about this case. This man has not only been punished by the law and now he will receive the greatest heartbreak a human being can endure, the lose of a child. If you have never experienced it or had someone close to you endure it I can assure you it is a pain greater than anything that could be administered by the state.

I understand all this, but am pointing out that if prisons make it a rule to do this it could get out of hand. A lot of prisoners could be wanting to go visit their child (and why should this be limited to their children?). How long do we let them go visit for? How many times do they get to go? What's the cost in providing escorts? We have millions in prison at any given time, how would we manage such a program on a large scale?

71 posted on 03/27/2008 9:38:44 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle
In an ideal world I think we would provide some compassionate services, but this is not an ideal world and obviously impossible to do. However in cases like this a dying child and a man who is very close to his release date I think a furlough is not out of the question. We as conservatives are by nature law and order types but we are also pro life and family orientated, we honor the birth of this child so I think we have to be concerned for her death.
72 posted on 03/27/2008 9:52:34 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: mimaw
I would be more sympathetic if the facts of this case were different.

This poor child has been battling this cancer for the last 7 years. Three years into her illness is when he got caught and convicted of meth distribution.

So we have a father with a child suffering from brain cancer out selling drugs while she's undergoing treatment.

Additionally, it has been reported that this child is unable to speak and has suffered a major stroke. Aside from a heartrate increase while he and several guards/escorts were in her room, there is no evidence that this child even knows that he is there or is "asking" to see him as has been suggested by reports. She was able to see him before her condition deteriorated.

This father has proven himself to be less than dedicated to his seriously ill child before...I can't help but wonder if he is using her illness now. :(

73 posted on 03/27/2008 10:02:31 PM PDT by TNdandelion ("I have no doubt that Sen. Clinton would make a good President"--John McCain)
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To: TNdandelion

Some people do really dumb and bad things but if retribution for you is the most important aspect of this case than you can rest assured this man is getting it in spades.


74 posted on 03/27/2008 10:14:20 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: TornadoAlley3

Thanks for posting that! Under such sad circumstances, it is a little bit of wonderful news.


75 posted on 03/28/2008 3:27:20 AM PDT by Mila
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To: USF
This picture just breaks my heart, poor little angel. May God hold this little child and her family very close. Prayers for all of them.


76 posted on 03/28/2008 3:38:37 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Hoodlum91

He’s had 4 visits now, 3 in the last month.


77 posted on 03/28/2008 5:40:20 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: microgood
Yes, I have some friends that almost died from it. It really is the worst drug out there. That does not mean, however, that the Feds should be involved or that the girl, who is going to die, should have to pay for the sins of her father. The other thing I do not buy is that the "dealer" is this evil monster and the "user" is some exploited innocent victim, especially at the lower levels. It takes two to tango, and "users" often transition to "dealers" to pay for their habit. I was growing up when the drugs really hit this country and there wasn't alot of armtwisting going on. It was pretty much a consensual situation. Parents like to think their children are victims but that is rarely the case.

I am also of Libertarian slant when it comes to most drug use. Meth and heroin would be notable exceptions. Meth has a devastating addiction sechedule, as you know, and is spectacularly unhealthy. I'd go as far to say that adults responsible for introducing meth to a child should be incarcerated for life , or worse.

Again: the user always has culpability. However, that culpability becomes quite minor when it comes to drugs that truly take near instant possesion of the user's life, and then end it.

78 posted on 03/28/2008 5:58:39 AM PDT by Shryke
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

You confuse the judgment of God - who knows what lies in the heart of man - with the judgment of man. God deals with justice. Man deals with laws, which is as close as we can come.

Someone who makes/sells meth is evil. He deserves all of his sentence. I’m sorry the daughter has a rotten dad, but that isn’t the law’s fault. The prison has allowed him to see his daughter, but won’t allow him to live there.

I’m sure there are lots of sob stories in prison. This has been one of them.


79 posted on 03/28/2008 5:58:46 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Let's win Congress - the Presidency is lost!)
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To: Mila; Conservative Vermont Vet; Don W; adopt4Christ; BCR #226
Sadly, AP reports Jayci Yaeger has now passed away:

Cancer-stricken daughter of inmate dies

80 posted on 03/28/2008 7:52:22 AM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade)
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