Posted on 03/23/2008 11:36:40 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny
Americans finding soaring food prices hard to stomach can battle back by growing their own food. [Click image for a larger version] Dean Fosdick Dean Fosdick
Home vegetable gardens appear to be booming as a result of the twin movements to eat local and pinch pennies.
At the Southeastern Flower Show in Atlanta this winter, D. Landreth Seed Co. of New Freedom, Pa., sold three to four times more seed packets than last year, says Barb Melera, president. "This is the first time I've ever heard people say, 'I can grow this more cheaply than I can buy it in the supermarket.' That's a 180-degree turn from the norm."
Roger Doiron, a gardener and fresh-food advocate from Scarborough, Maine, said he turned $85 worth of seeds into more than six months of vegetables for his family of five.
A year later, he says, the family still had "several quarts of tomato sauce, bags of mixed vegetables and ice-cube trays of pesto in the freezer; 20 heads of garlic, a five-gallon crock of sauerkraut, more homegrown hot-pepper sauce than one family could comfortably eat in a year and three sorts of squash, which we make into soups, stews and bread."
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She compares the current period of market uncertainty with that of the early- to mid-20th century when the concept of victory gardens became popular.
"A lot of companies during the world wars and the Great Depression era encouraged vegetable gardening as a way of addressing layoffs, reduced wages and such," she says. "Some companies, like U.S. Steel, made gardens available at the workplace. Railroads provided easements they'd rent to employees and others for gardening."
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http://www.nationalterroralert.com/suspicious-activity/
Suspicious Activity
What To Do If You Spot Suspicious Terrorist ActivityIf you see suspicious behavior, do not confront the individuals involved.
Take note of the details:
S - Size (Jot down the number of people, gender, ages, and physical descriptions)
A - Activity (Describe exactly what they are doing)
L - Location (Provide exact location)
U - Uniform (Describe what they are wearing, including shoes)
T - Time (Provide date, time, and duration of activity)
E - Equipment (Describe vehicle, make, color etc., license plate, camera, guns, etc)
Suspicious activity is often recalled after an event. We must train ourselves to be on the lookout for things that are out of the ordinary and arouse suspicions.
Keep in mind, those who commit terrorist acts:
• Usually live among us without appearing suspicious while planning and
preparing for their attack. They may be your neighbor, student or friend.
• Often they will need training or equipment that will arouse suspicion.
• Need to conduct surveillance on possible targets and
gather information on the planned attcak location.
All of these things make terrorists vulnerable to detection, by those watching for certain characteristics.
earn to recognize the difference between normal and abnormal behavior. It can be a fine line. Stay alert in your daily travels and routines and get to know:
• Who your neighbors are
• What cars are normally in your neighborhood
• Who regularly makes deliveries at work and in your neighborhood
Staying alert is NOT about becoming paranoid. Staying alert is being aware of one’s surroundings. Be alert to indications of possible trouble. They may include:
• A local activity that could indicate problems in your community.
• One of the clues that led to the recent break-up of a terrorist plot was that several of the cell members were spotted celebrating in an apartment complex on the anniversary of 911.
• Previous activity or crimes.
• Controversial issues being debated.
• Suspicious thefts.
It is impossible to identify a terrorist by
• Appearance
• Nationality
• Language
You CAN only identify a terrorist threat by observing or hearing about suspicious activity that may lead to a criminal act.
Identifying suspicious activity is not a difficult science. Rely on your judgment. Your suspicion of a threat could be confirmed with only one incident or it could take a series of incidents. Your suspicions will need to be based on:
• Experience
• Judgment
• Common sense
Review some possible suspicious activity.
Here is just one example:
Unusual Interest in High Risk or Symbolic Targets
Maybe you are at a high profile location or, perhaps a National Monument and you notice a person nearby taking several photos. That’s not unusual. But then you notice that the person is only taking photos of the locations surveillance cameras, entrence crash barriers and access control procedures. Is that normal for a tourist? Not.
The following should cause a heightened sense of suspicion:
• suspicious or unusual interest
• surveillance (suspicious in nature)
• inappropriate photographs or videos
• note-taking
• drawing of diagrams
• annotating maps
• using binoculars or night vision devices
Unusual or suspicious activity does not necessarily mean that terrorist activity is happening, but be aware of the following suspicious behaviors:
• Individuals acting furtively and suspiciously
• Individuals avoiding eye contact
• Individuals departing quickly when seen or approached
• Individuals in places they don’t belong
• A strong odor coming from a building or vehicle
• An overloaded vehicle
• Fluid leaking from a vehicle, other than the engine or gas tank
• Over dressed for the type of weather
Fraudulent Identification
Many of the 9/11 terrorists were in the country illegally and using fraudulent IDs. Altering or using false government identification in any way and for any purpose is against the law.
Read a recent news article we featured discussing this.
Fraudulent ID’s include:
• drivers license
• social security card
• passport
• birth certificate
• INS identification
If you believe someone is using or has altered government identification, please notify the law enforcement authrities. Do NOT request to see another person’s ID when not appropriate. Allow law enforcements to do the investigating.
Terrorists, when not acting alone, need to meet with their conspirators and often times work within a cell. Pay attention to visitors and guests that
• arrive and leave at unusual hours
• try not to be noticed
• act in a suspicious manner
• park an unusual distance from the meeting
• have an unusual number of unrelated people living together
Not all people who maintain privacy are terrorists. But people intent on doing illegal acts want to be left alone.
Some signs that may raise your suspicions.
• they only let you into the apartment or house with plenty of prior notice
• they change the locks often
• they keep certain rooms off limits
• they cover tables and other pieces of furniture
• they never allow maid service in a hotel room
• they only take hotel room service outside the door
• they only accept deliveries at the hotel’s front desk or outside a closed door
Deliveries are a common method for terrorists to carry out their attacks. Be aware of:
• a vehicle with hazardous material parked or driving in an inappropriate area
• unusual deliveries of chemicals or fertilizer
• unattended bags or boxes in a public access place
• fire extinguishers that may have been moved or tampered with
• unusual or unexpected mail
Unusual Purchases or Thefts
Terrorists need supplies to carry out their attacks and accomplish their goals.
Pay attention to purchases, rentals or thefts of:
• police, security, public utility, mail carrier, or airline uniforms and equipment
• explosives
• weapons
• ammunition
• propane bottles
• toxic chemicals
• vehicles able to contain or haul hazardous materials
Additional suspicious activity may include:
* Someone bragging or talking about plans to harm citizens in violent attacks or who claims membership in a terrorist organization that espouses killing innocent people.
* Suspicious packages, luggage, or mail that have been abandoned in a crowded place like an office building, an airport, a school, or a shopping center.
* Suspicious letter or package that arrives in your mailbox. (Stay away from the letter or package and don’t shake, bump or sniff it; wash hands thoroughly with soap and water.
* Someone suspiciously exiting a secured, non-public area near a train or bus depot, airport, tunnel, bridge, government building, or tourist attraction.
* Any type of activity or circumstance that seems frightening or unusual within the normal routines of your neighborhood, community, and workplace.
* Someone unfamiliar loitering in a parking lot, government building, or around a school or playground.
* Anyone asking a lot of questions ‹ especially concerning routes or loads or drop-off times.
* Recruiters should be alert for unusual employment applications. Don’t assume it couldn’t be an inside job.
* A trucker returning to his or her vehicle from a restaurant or truck stop should make sure no one is loitering around the truck. Watch out for walk-arounds.
Compost tea!!! Wonderful stuff. Have been making compost for forty years. Does wonders for my soil which is mostly clay. All the neighbors save their composting material for me. Daughter has two minnie horses and I live near theocean, so with the manure, seaweed and compostable materials, I have an abundunce of compost. My son calls it black gold. All transplanted items-fruit trees, ornamentals box plants etc. receive a large amount of this black gold and how they thrive!!!
I would be able to find streams or, in a pinch, dig a shallow well...<<<
Hello Uncle Ike, I am always to share my ‘opinion’, not that makes it mean anything and we all have one.
Yes to planning, that is the key, if you wait until it happens, you are not going to have a clue to the starting point.
I have not lived in the east, except for a few months in 1956.
In the late 60’s I went to Oregon and attempted to find a place to buy, as Bill was raised there and knew all about the streams full of fish [fished out] and the shallow water wells.
If I found a place, the well was contaminated, dried up, or it was too deep to the water table, which had dropped.
So much for that dream, I moved there in 68 and Bill came in 69, 2 months later he was in bed with his bad lung and could not get out of it.
We arrived in Wellton, June the 10th, 1970.
Water there is one foot above ground, on the Gila River channel and was then 300 to 500 foot deep depending on how far you were from it, so much for the 45’ the realtor quoted to sell me the land.
Here, we are in the 1,500 to 2,000 foot deep range.
So I have no faith in digging a shallow well.
most streams are not safe to drink now, wait for a disaster and the debris that will enter the water ways and add to that the fools, who will use it to bathe in and as a bathroom.
And a handy owner with a shot gun, who will chase you off.
Dr. Bill does say that you should go to the sporting goods store and buy the bottle with the attached charcoal filter, that back packers use and that it will work to clean the water.
LOL, he talks a lot of big names for how it works, but I can tell by the taste of my water in the Pur water pitcher, when its charcoal filter is full .......
Dr. Bill says that the studies he has worked on, indicate that 25 million Americans are going to jump in their cars and go like a bat out of hell, to some wonderous spot, that does not exist.
More than one liberal has taken him on, on that one and withers out of the conversation, after a few questions:
Have you ever slept on the ground?
Do you have food, water, a sleeping bag and walking shoes in your car, office and home.......?
Do you know where you are going?
Do you know how to live off the land?
Do you have a gun to protect yourself with?
Where is your next tank of gas coming from?
He says that there will be many cars hijacked, simply due to the fact that they still have gas in them.
That the fools who do not have a destination, will be parked in the middle of the freeway and all travel will halt.
That if you did find a gas station, you could not get gas, if there is no electric, nor will the ATM machine or credit card reader work......so no services.
If you think it is safe to do so, and choose to stay home, then you will need guns to protect yourself with.
I was glad to move to Wellton, then met a lady who had been on the school board there, during the high danger years and found out also just how many military were in the area, easier to say “every direction”.
Catherine said that the Military came several times and talked to them.
We were the place the San Diego people would run out of gas in, 175 miles from San Diego and they were not going to get gas or shelter in a town of 200 people.
Catherine said she told him “I have a food supply and live out of town on a farm, I am a Mormon and am ready for what comes”.
He looked at her, said “yes, you do look rather well fed, so I will expect to find a supply of food at your place and am willing to kill to get it.”
So expect them to kill you and take yours.
In 1955, my aunt and I took her son to Yuma, and left him, started back to San Diego, about dark and couldn’t get up the mountain in the snow, the cops pushed her car around and sent her back down the hill to a tiny town of Ocotillo Wells, then maybe 30 people, we went to the tiny cafe on the highway and were lucky to be some of the first to come in and they stayed open to feed us......
And more came and more.....so we went out to the car to sleep.
The next morning, when the sun came up, there were hundreds of cars parked in the desert, it was a sea of cars.
There was not a bite of food or coffee for sale in the town.
We had to go east 30 miles to el Centro, to find a cup of coffee.
And that was just a little snow storm at the top of the mountain, not in the desert, no rush, no problems.
In the fire threads of the California fires of about 2005, in the Big Bear area of Calif. There are photos of the evacuation of Big Bear.
Every lane of the freeway, going both ways, is bumper to bumper cars, all fleeing the fires.....for miles.
Imagine the added panic of a bomb.
Now imagine the added fact that there have been 5 bombs in 5 U.S. cities.
That is the al-qaeda plan.
Kingman is the evuacation point for Phoenix [175 miles] and for Tucson [235 miles], add Las vegas [110 miles] and you have a town with deep water wells, all food is trucked in and none grown here, I doubt you could find a vegetable growing in the area, not out here for sure.
I am not up on size, but would expect there to be 3 to 5 million people headed here, to find nothing......our electric comes from Hoover Dam and the Dam at Laughlin.....not hard to take it out.
I will stay put, as I can’t survive without the oxygen machine, unless I sit very quietly and do not get excited. I already see the end of my road, so I will sit here and try to protect what is here, for those that need it, brother, step-son and nephews and nieces and their kids, also a friend and her daughter from Las Vegas and a pen pal of 10 years, who knows that he and his wife can ride his motorcycle here from calif. They are well stocked, so won’t come unless it is the right thing to do.
There are springs, within 15 miles of me, in an old mining area, the water has high mineral, lead and maybe arsenic. And wildlife.
My truck has not been started in 3 years.....so no going for me.
Where I am, is lower than the water storage tank for the area, so if I am lucky, I can fill containers, before it is dry.
That is how I see it, not a lot of help to you, but still it may give you a hint or two.
You are allowed to share your thoughts here any time, as you are right, if you have what it takes to survive, someone is going to hit you in the head and take it.
I will see if I can find the group that i joined by accident, they turned out to be re-enactors and one of the things we did was put our ideas to gather for a survival kit that fits in one of those mint candy containers, that is about 3 x 4 inches.
They let me set in and I don’t know if I dropped the group or not, after 9-11.
LOL, they even had classes to make the arrows and lots of info on how to chip the arrows from stone.
Not as easy as one thinks, we had a weekend place in an old area, that had once had indians in it and found many arrows that were half chipped and you could see where the flaw in the stone, caused it to break, when half done.
Stay safe and get out of the city.
Welcome, we are glad that you found us.
Would you like to tell us how to make compost?
Knowing all the different ways that people use, would be a help.
It is not a project that I have had good luck with in the desert, other than in small amounts.
Brewing your own beer is a good idea. Back in the days before microbreweries took off, I used to brew my own because the beer that was available in my area was just awful, flavorless crud. If you use a kit, it’ll cost you about half of what you pay in the supermarket. You’ll also avoid paying those beer taxes.
Another way to make sure you have plenty of yeast is to brew beer. You’ll have yeast coming out of your proverbial ears. I used to dump quarts of it when I was brewing.
I realized that I needed to base my planning around getting as far away from the city, as quickly as possible.. That meant that *portability* needs to be a primary consideration in my stockpiles — shooting for the most nutritional value per pound/cubic foot (within some pretty severe budget restraints)....<<<
On the Threat Matrix thread, several years ago, we looked at how you would escape the big cities.
We found that the main escape routes could be closed, easy, with a big truck.
Some of us still follow the “suspicious incidents”, as it was clear by 2002, that they were happening.....buses that hit the bridge in Texas, I restudied those photos a few months ago, it went down a grassy area, on the outside of the guard rail to hit the bridge abutment, killing many of the church group youths, and yes he was one with an arab name.
You will find many trucks hit bridges.
There was even a barge that closed the truckers main route in Oklahoma, about 2003 or 2004, most people stopped reading after a day or so, but we did not.
Barge had hit another bridge, down the river, and lots of odd info, as the details came out.
Freeway was closed for months.
It was a muslim truck driver who cased the Brooklyn bridge with the plan to destroy it, by cutting the cables, this from memory, named Faris as I recall, could be wrong, he is in jail.
There is a long bridge in Florida, goes to the Keys or an island, beautiful miles long over the bay.
About 3 years ago, a black suv attacked a gas tanker, causing him to crash and burn, the suv escaped.
As we followed the story, we found that the utilities to the island were built into the bridge.
The bridge had to be closed, but the utilities were ok, this time.
The bridge about a year ago in northern California, on the truck route, several trucks and cars, horrible accident, most did not stick with that story to the end, of some drivers were not American and there is still one or two that have never been found, one left and went home......that is where they found him.
It is things like that, that have me staying put.
I won’t be bombed and it would be a waste to spray us, as we are on 1 acre or larger lots, with many still vacant.
Milford421 has a Yahoo Group called “Under Investigation”, we send him news and he posts them to the group.
“My grandmother freezes her milk - anyone know how long that lasts in the freezer? Does it taste good?”
I used to freeze milk back when I was in college. It seemed to last pretty much indefinitely, but I wouldn’t freeze it for more than say 6 months to a year. It tasted OK. Not as good as fresh and you needed to shake it up as the water would would separate from the milk solids. These days, I’d just buy UHT milk boxed if I were looking to store it.
Thanks for your response, Granny — you raised a number of issues that I have had to think through — always with an eye towards flexibility and ability to improvise....
As I’ve said a couple of times, I learned a lot from watching the Katrina debacle — and that’s colored a lot of my thinking....
Clogged evac routes are, as you correctly point out, a serious consideration, and I’ve spent a good bit of time poring over maps to plan a number of bug-out routes that keep me well away from the ‘official’ roads, and all of them end in state and national parks/forests (yes, I did consider the ‘farmer with shotgun’ scenario ;~)) within the full-tank range of my vehicle, with running streams for drinking water and, hopefully, some fish....
Water purification is something I’ve thought a lot about, and, not being able to afford, or easily transport, any of the commercially available systems, I’m going with simplicity and improvisation — paper filters (stacked coffee filters - cheap, readily available, easily stored and transported) to filter out turbidity and large contaminants, and boiling to take care of the biotic contaminants... (And, yes, just having to trust to luck that I’ll find something relatively free of industrial/chemical contaminants)
As to ‘living rough’ — yes, I have done it, and I have very few illusions about it being easy.. Survival is full-time, hard work, and the only way I’d even attempt it would be if it became the best option out of a number of extremely poor choices..
LOL, I will pass on the beer, my dad made enough for both of us.
If you are having live yeast left over, mix it with flour and let it ferment, you will then have sour dough starter.
If you have dogs, they love it, as will the hogs and chickens.
We get weevils in our flour and that gets used for sour dough starter, for the animals, gives them a shot of vitamin b.
Don’t be surprised at how many ask you how to make it.
I do use it in cooking.
Water purification is something I’ve thought a lot about, and, not being able to afford, or easily transport, any of the commercially available systems, I’m going with simplicity and improvisation — paper filters (stacked coffee filters - cheap, readily available, easily stored and transported) to filter out turbidity and large contaminants, and boiling to take care of the biotic contaminants... (And, yes, just having to trust to luck that I’ll find something relatively free of industrial/chemical contaminants)<<<
Ahhh, but as soon as I spot the smoke or fire, I will be over to take your food.
So no fires.
A cave maybe. When I have been in the old indian areas for prospecting, we would find caves that showed more than one fire had been in them, or even hollows in the mountain side.
Yes, there was other proof, than the knowledge of the area history, as the indians loved to peck in the rocks to leave their story for those behind him.
I was attempting to learn how to read them, and like so many things, they were all articles/books that had no basis in fact, were that writers opinions.
The day Papago Indian friends came to visit and found my books and notes spread out, and would not stop laughing, cured me.
When Cindy could keep a straight face, she told me that there were, as I recall 10 kids in her family, they lived at Sells, Az on the Papago reservation.
On Sunday’s, the mother insisted that dad babysit the kids and she had a day off.
Most sundays, they went to the hill near the house and the kids spent the day, yes pecking stick figures in the rocks, and called it story telling.......LOL
**I need to know everything.**
My favorite word is WHY? If I was a cat, I’d have long been dead! LOLOLOL
You write murder mysteries? Cool!
” Ahhh, but as soon as I spot the smoke or fire, I will be over to take your food.
So no fires. “
I’m enough of a realist to understand that, if things come to the state where any of this becomes necessary, my odds of survival are, at best, poor.
The best I will be able to do is to give myself the best chance to beat the odds, being fully aware that I can’t know and have detailed planning for every eventuality — it’s going to be mostly luck that determines my fate.
It’s better to be a mouse than to be a lion, in this situation — I will try very hard to get away from the crowds, and then to keep an extremely low profile... And to fight only when absolutely necessary....
Having said that, I know that, within limits, there is strength in numbers, and I’m more likely to combine resources and cooperate with those I encounter, rather than fight for dominance.
Any Bailey’s in your family tree? I have the white streak on my right and was always told it was the Bailey white streak. My mother was Cherokee NC>Tenn then family split with some forced to OK and mother’s branch went to Missouri and hid thier Cherokee roots.
I had an Aunt with the dark hair and the white streak that only a professional dye job could cover up. My hair is more dishwater blond so the streak wasn’t obvious until it really whitened out in the past several years. My middle daughter is paranoid that she has it; she is 23 and when she lightens her hair the front right gets much lighter than the rest. I just laugh, it has never bothered me- just part of family history.
“You need to find a Costco. Look here for locations in VA”
I have to respectfully disagree with your advice. Costco, while having good prices on certain items, is not all that great of a deal on everything. My observation is that they have good prices on gasoline, paper products, vitamins, and some food items. I’ve also heard that their prices on non generic prescriptions are very good, and I don’t think you need to be a member to use their pharmacy. Frankly, I’m not sure that the cost of my annual membership is justified. When I’ve compared prices, I’ve often found that I can get the same or similar item for a similar price at WalMart. So why pay to be a member?
Food prices at Costco are fair, assuming that you use large quantities of the item in question. Otherwise, it’s false economy to buy something just to end up throwing it out.
For food shopping, my strategy is to shop the supermarket circulars every week and adapt our menu accordingly. There are always meat and vegetable items on sale.
I don’t do many coupons, but I do some. My observation is that they’re usually a false economy. Buying a brand name product with the coupon is usually more expensive than the comparable generic. I’ve found that coupons for other than grocery/cleaning items are usually the best deal.
Also, the sales at the large drugstores such as CVS, Walgreens, and Rite Aid are often good, but only for the items that are on the sale circular. Otherwise, the drugstore chains are almost always higher priced.
Don’t forget the dollar stores such dollar general, dollar tree, family dollar etc. You have to watch the prices, but there are often some very good deals to be found. Especially when purchasing manufacturer closeouts.
Finally, Trader Joe is great for high end, organic items at a good price. I also hear that Aldi is a good deal, but there isn’t one near enough to justify the gas.
To summarize my shopping strategy:
1. Know the prices for the items you normally buy.
2. Make a list of sale items and shop the list.
3. Staple items that aren’t on sale elsewhere are usually cheapest at WalMart.
Don’t forget canned milk; it is very good to cook with. Powdered milk also works great for storage. I froze a lot of milk when my grandson was little- works fine if you let it thaw completely and then shake it to mix it well before using. If things do get desperate though to really keep going we will get another cow. I love fresh butter and cream but haven’t had a milk cow since my kids were little. We just don’t use enough milk and butter now to justify a cow.
You write murder mysteries? Cool!<<<
If I tell the truth, it would fit my efforts better, to say that I plot murder mysteries. Never finished a manuscript.
I have had articles on Orchids published, years ago and had earned the small right to call my self historian, from the local museums, with my articles on mining history in Mohave County.
Then my world tilted and I have been away from writing too long.
It is easier to read yours.
30 years ago, I knew it all, then found out that I did not really know a thing about the viet Nam war veterans.
That gave knowledge a new meaning.
before, I had learned about all kinds of things to make and do, so I started all over learning “it all”.
At times, I wish that I had picked one subject and stuck with it, until I knew enough to know it, instead of the piece of this and that, that I do know.
Keep learning, we are not dead as yet.
It’s better to be a mouse than to be a lion, in this situation — I will try very hard to get away from the crowds, and then to keep an extremely low profile... And to fight only when absolutely necessary....
Having said that, I know that, within limits, there is strength in numbers, and I’m more likely to combine resources and cooperate with those I encounter, rather than fight for dominance.<<<
Wise thinking, can’t argue with that.
The simple fact is, there is not a perfect answer to survival, one does what is needed to survive, be it stealing your food for my family or killing me for my food.
It is not the experienced woodsmen like you that worry me.
It is the fool that thinks like the clintons and etc, they will be the real danger, as they will not be prepared, after all this is all the fault of President Bush and they do not even listen to Dr. Bill when he warns them of what will happen, if an attack comes.
On the terror thread, I just posted a link for the new tests that N. Korea did last night.
and will have more on there later.
But the left will tell you there is no war, we do not need to know who is spying on us, etc.
They are the danger to you and I, if they are in the area.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Your compost pile is awesome, it did not work for me in the desert, I have used a barrell without a bottom and had good luck.
And Yes, been there, and made the needed decisions to keep food on the table.
Unless you have lived with your own fresh milk, many do not have a clue as to how much you can use, gravy, deserts of course, in the cakes, bread and never used water for cooking if I had milk.
Then there was always cheese, I made a hard cheese, took up to 5 gallons, with any over going to the hogs, poultry, cats and dogs.
A friend gave me some of her poultry feed that they had made for years, black as your compost.
They put a large [2 x4 by about a foot deep] pan under the mesquite bushes when the beans were ripe and let the seeds and pots, plus leaves fall in the pan, where they put the extra milk and more or less composted the beans with milk.
The chickens did well on it, as a food additive.
I would take a quart of milk to work with me, flavored with strawberry jello powder and save the money for soft drinks, used other flavors, but still think of the strawberry.
Thank you for sharing your memories, do stay and join in, there is so much we need to think about.
I can agree on your shopping thoughts and for years we did not have the larger stores here, so have always used the ads to base the shopping on, until now, when else has to do it for me and does it when he has the time and not always my way...
But I am blessed to have someone who will do it.
Welcome Tammy, hope you will return and join in our learning experience.
My family has always used canned milk.
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