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CBS Has Barack's Back: Wright's Words Compared to Those of Jesus
News Busters ^ | March 17, 2008 | Mark Finkelstein |

Posted on 03/17/2008 12:47:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Early Show did its best this morning to help Barack Obama climb out of the hole he's dug for himself with his close association with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

In a set-up segment, CBS's Dean Reynolds rhetorically asked: "the question is whether the rhetoric is so remarkable, because in African-American churches pastors often seek to rouse their congregants to self-reliance by speaking harshly about the country's troubled racial past and the need to overcome it."

Nice try, but how does accusing the US government of introducing AIDS and giving black people drugs equate to a call for self-reliance?

Reynolds concluded by stating that the Obama campaign is concerned that its candidate has been "victimized" in the same way the Trinity church claims Rev. Wright has.

Then it was on to a Russ Mitchell interview of the Rev. Dr. Calvin Butts, III of Harlem's famed Abyssinian Baptist Church. The thrust of Mitchell's questions and Rev. Butts' responses was that the controversy is being blown out of proportion, that fiery rhetoric is a tradition in black churches with roots in the Bible and even in the words of Jesus. Moreover, it would be wrong to expect congregants to criticize their pastors' words.

RUSS MITCHELL: When it comes to the African-American church, how surprised should people be when they hear a pastor, from the pulpit, giving a controversial message using such strong language?

BUTTS: Well, the strength of the language of course is questionable. However, the prophetic tradition of the African-American church has been such that we have had to criticize the nation that we love so dearly in order to win our human and civil rights. We've had to speak harshly about the injustices to draw people's attention to the real problems that we've had to face. The shock value is nothing new. The Prophets used it in ancient Israel. The Disciples used it, Jesus called the Pharisees whitened sepulchres or whitened tombs. So the shock rhetoric is not unusual in pulpits, black or white, but certainly in the black community because people have to have the point driven home, and they have to have made vivid. And sometimes the language can be awfully powerful.

A bit later, Mitchell lobbed Butts some softballs clearly intended to get Obama off the hook. The Reverend didn't squander his plate appearance.

MITCHELL: When people hear Reverend Wright speaking on YouTube, on television, they hear the congregants applauding. Is it fair to assume that everyone in the congregation walks out of that church agreeing with what the pastor says?

BUTTS: Absolutely not. We have thinking people in our congregations, people who know how to discern between the very fiery and forceful rhetoric and the actual application in life. I don't know the full context of Reverend Wright's sermons, all of them, but I do know that all of us have used strong language from time to time in order to drive home a point. It's in the prophetic tradition. It's not unusual to the black church either. I mean, it's used in churches. It's used in synagogues. It's used in mosques. It is the sacred rhetoric. And it is often forceful. It is often powerful. It is often condemnnatory. In the Bible they call the great civilization of Babylon, pardon the expression, a whore.

Mitchell returned to that theme at interview's end.

MITCHELL: Black congregants are reluctant, are they not, to criticize their pastor in public, even when the pastor says something as strong, as controversial as what Reverend Wright said?

BUTTS: That's right. I'm very surprised at any congregant who would denounce his or her pastor.

MITCHELL: Why is that?

BUTTS: Well, because people love their pastors, and in the churches they understand the rhetoric. See, you shouldn't look at this as they walk into church and the pastor says something shocking and they immediately run to it. They understand what is radical rhetoric and what is the practical application of the love of God to everybody.


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Sorry, CBS, it's too little, too late...
1 posted on 03/17/2008 12:47:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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“In a set-up segment, CBS’s Dean Reynolds rhetorically asked: “the question is whether the rhetoric is so remarkable, because in African-American churches pastors often seek to rouse their congregants to self-reliance by speaking harshly about the country’s troubled racial past and the need to overcome it.””

Maybe CBS should just stop hiring people whose initials are “D.R.”


2 posted on 03/17/2008 12:48:47 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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Sorry, CBS, it's too little, too late...

and uber lame

4 posted on 03/17/2008 12:49:55 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Slapshot68
"hey, i resemble that remark !"
5 posted on 03/17/2008 12:51:08 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So do some here at FR who have been urging that this wait until after the primaries. Does anyone really believe that we could get this out after the primaries when Hillary is no longer locked in a death match with Obama?
6 posted on 03/17/2008 12:52:45 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What sounds idiotic to us is actually soothing to those who support Obama.

Reason #760,547,987,432,009 why the democrats/collectivist/MSM etc... are insane.

7 posted on 03/17/2008 12:53:46 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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by speaking harshly about the country’s troubled racial past and the need to overcome it.””

By engaging in it themselves?

Yeah....nice plan.

8 posted on 03/17/2008 12:55:31 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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The Disciples used it, Jesus called the Pharisees whitened sepulchres or whitened tombs.

So am I to understand that Jesus calling the Pharisees whitened tombs is equivalent to The “Reverend” Wright denouncing white people?

I'm fairly certain that involves a non-orthodox interpretation of scripture.

9 posted on 03/17/2008 12:56:49 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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Is it fair to assume that everyone in the congregation walks out of that church agreeing with what the pastor says?

I would assume that those who walked out before the end did not agree with him. I would also assume that those who walked out after his racist, anti-American rants did agree with him.

Especially after 20 years of it.

10 posted on 03/17/2008 12:58:13 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hate CBS almost as much as I hate my government!


11 posted on 03/17/2008 1:00:42 PM PDT by fweingart (It doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always gets in!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I musta missed something.

I read the whole New Testament more than a few times.

I don’t remember ever reading about Jesus rejoicing in the suffering and death of anybody.

On the other hand, “Rev” Wright sure seemed to rejoice in the attacks of 911.

Oh, and “Rev” Wright is NOTHING like Jesus.


12 posted on 03/17/2008 1:00:53 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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I didn’t think people went to church to “agree” with what the pastor says....but to hear the word of the Lord and it’s interpretations.....Wright’s church seems more hate whitey cult than church....someone needs to start questioning the tax status of some of these so called “churches.”


13 posted on 03/17/2008 1:02:02 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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[IMG]http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q32/dppnerd/obama.jpg[/IMG]


14 posted on 03/17/2008 1:02:23 PM PDT by RDW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

CBS to Obama: Courage.


15 posted on 03/17/2008 1:04:40 PM PDT by wilco200
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The Rev speaks as a fullphedged memeber of the Rosie O’Donnel club.


16 posted on 03/17/2008 1:05:21 PM PDT by wolfcreek (Hank Hill's Dad, Cruella and Curious George=Loony Toons)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jesus rarely if ever criticized the Romans, even though they deserved it. He reserved his harshest criticisms for the religious hypocrites in power.


17 posted on 03/17/2008 1:05:53 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one recipe at a time http://www.youtube.com/Tamar1973)
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To: wolfcreek

Sorry, I’ll remember to use spellcheck next time.


18 posted on 03/17/2008 1:06:32 PM PDT by wolfcreek (Hank Hill's Dad, Cruella and Curious George=Loony Toons)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
However, the prophetic tradition of the African-American church has been such that we have had to criticize the nation that we love so dearly in order to win our human and civil rights. We've had to speak harshly about the injustices to draw people's attention to the real problems that we've had to face.

Horse puckey.

If you want to say that this nation has failed to live up to its ideals, because of this or that, well go ahead. It's tradition, and healthy.

If you want to say that the people in charge have failed to live up to the nation's ideals, well go ahead. It's tradition, and healthy.

But when you condemn the whole nation, and call for God's damnation on it, and paint the whole country with the KKK brush, then you are attacking something different from human fears, frailties, prejudices, and ignorance.

You're attacking the ideal, which many millions still hold dear. So don't be surprised when it comes back to bite you.

19 posted on 03/17/2008 1:06:48 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: wilco200

BUMP!


20 posted on 03/17/2008 1:07:17 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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