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Sorry, CBS, it's too little, too late...
1 posted on 03/17/2008 12:47:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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“In a set-up segment, CBS’s Dean Reynolds rhetorically asked: “the question is whether the rhetoric is so remarkable, because in African-American churches pastors often seek to rouse their congregants to self-reliance by speaking harshly about the country’s troubled racial past and the need to overcome it.””

Maybe CBS should just stop hiring people whose initials are “D.R.”


2 posted on 03/17/2008 12:48:47 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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Sorry, CBS, it's too little, too late...

and uber lame

4 posted on 03/17/2008 12:49:55 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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So do some here at FR who have been urging that this wait until after the primaries. Does anyone really believe that we could get this out after the primaries when Hillary is no longer locked in a death match with Obama?
6 posted on 03/17/2008 12:52:45 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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What sounds idiotic to us is actually soothing to those who support Obama.

Reason #760,547,987,432,009 why the democrats/collectivist/MSM etc... are insane.

7 posted on 03/17/2008 12:53:46 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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The Disciples used it, Jesus called the Pharisees whitened sepulchres or whitened tombs.

So am I to understand that Jesus calling the Pharisees whitened tombs is equivalent to The “Reverend” Wright denouncing white people?

I'm fairly certain that involves a non-orthodox interpretation of scripture.

9 posted on 03/17/2008 12:56:49 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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Is it fair to assume that everyone in the congregation walks out of that church agreeing with what the pastor says?

I would assume that those who walked out before the end did not agree with him. I would also assume that those who walked out after his racist, anti-American rants did agree with him.

Especially after 20 years of it.

10 posted on 03/17/2008 12:58:13 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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I hate CBS almost as much as I hate my government!


11 posted on 03/17/2008 1:00:42 PM PDT by fweingart (It doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always gets in!)
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I musta missed something.

I read the whole New Testament more than a few times.

I don’t remember ever reading about Jesus rejoicing in the suffering and death of anybody.

On the other hand, “Rev” Wright sure seemed to rejoice in the attacks of 911.

Oh, and “Rev” Wright is NOTHING like Jesus.


12 posted on 03/17/2008 1:00:53 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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I didn’t think people went to church to “agree” with what the pastor says....but to hear the word of the Lord and it’s interpretations.....Wright’s church seems more hate whitey cult than church....someone needs to start questioning the tax status of some of these so called “churches.”


13 posted on 03/17/2008 1:02:02 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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CBS to Obama: Courage.


15 posted on 03/17/2008 1:04:40 PM PDT by wilco200
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The Rev speaks as a fullphedged memeber of the Rosie O’Donnel club.


16 posted on 03/17/2008 1:05:21 PM PDT by wolfcreek (Hank Hill's Dad, Cruella and Curious George=Loony Toons)
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Jesus rarely if ever criticized the Romans, even though they deserved it. He reserved his harshest criticisms for the religious hypocrites in power.


17 posted on 03/17/2008 1:05:53 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one recipe at a time http://www.youtube.com/Tamar1973)
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However, the prophetic tradition of the African-American church has been such that we have had to criticize the nation that we love so dearly in order to win our human and civil rights. We've had to speak harshly about the injustices to draw people's attention to the real problems that we've had to face.

Horse puckey.

If you want to say that this nation has failed to live up to its ideals, because of this or that, well go ahead. It's tradition, and healthy.

If you want to say that the people in charge have failed to live up to the nation's ideals, well go ahead. It's tradition, and healthy.

But when you condemn the whole nation, and call for God's damnation on it, and paint the whole country with the KKK brush, then you are attacking something different from human fears, frailties, prejudices, and ignorance.

You're attacking the ideal, which many millions still hold dear. So don't be surprised when it comes back to bite you.

19 posted on 03/17/2008 1:06:48 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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HA HA

Victimized? Wright has a Presidential candidate attending his church, Oprah Winfrey comes around every now and then, and I didn’t see any emaciated cardboard-box dwellers in those video clips either.


22 posted on 03/17/2008 1:09:22 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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".....to rouse their congregants to self-reliance".

The idiot who wrote this poor excuse for "journalism" -- conveniently neglects to point out which racist screeds were intended to "rouse their congregantes to self-reliance"...

Sound to me like the screeds were intended to rouse their congregations into a hate whitey frenzy and hate America....to explain their own poor condition.

Unexplained - is how this could be true with so many black millionaires in the "church" -- including Obama, his wife and Ophra -- before she left.

Blacks in America who are this angry and dissatisfied -- should refuse all federal/state/county/city welfare payments, set asides, affirmative action and go where they will be treated with more respect.....

23 posted on 03/17/2008 1:10:37 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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how surprised should people be when they hear a pastor, from the pulpit, giving a controversial message using such strong language?

Some of my coworkers were appalled. One woman could hardly believe that Obama doesn't think his church is particularly controversial and that Al Gore's (black) 2004 campaign manager, Donna Brazile, says that Jeremiah Wright is one of the more moderate black preachers.
24 posted on 03/17/2008 1:11:24 PM PDT by flowerplough ( Hillary: "The harder she works, the worse it gets for the Dems." R. Cohen, WaPost (paraphrase)
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Mr Butts, was Jesus a Jew or was Jesus black?


25 posted on 03/17/2008 1:13:08 PM PDT by DManA
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We could open the Gospels to just about any page and find statements that either the Gospel writers made or quotes of Jesus that stand in stark contradistinction to the beliefs and policies expressed by Obama.

We could start by pointing out that Jesus condemned lies, coveting and theft. These are the three foundation points of the socialist agenda that Obama wants to advance.

In fact we can see in the Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard in Matthew 20 that Jesus understands and supports the essential points of free market capitalism. This parable ends with the rhetorical question that strikes directly at the heart of today's collectivist ideology: “Don't I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?”

This ties directly back to the elaboration of free market principles within a supportive legal framework and consideration for the needs of the poor expressed in Leviticus 19. In that chapter, the Eternal directed Moses
to state that a farmer had to reserve the corner of his field during the harvest to allow the poor to glean their food. (verse 9-10).

There are essential points here that directly contrast with the socialist welfare state of today.

In Lev 19:9, the farmer still owned the field. His obligation to allow gleaning of a corner did not destroy his property rights to the land. Moreover, he did not have to worry that the corner would be ever-elastic and expand every year to “fill urgent unmet needs”.

Today, by making “charity” a function of government funded through taxation, the instant the tax obligation is incurred, government takes title to the money even if it has not yet been paid to the citizen. This destroys the property right. It also disconnects the giver from the recipient. It foments political power brokering by allowing a candidate for office to tell recipient voters how much money he is going to loot from people who pay taxes. The very nature of the system destroys any human willingness to see that the poor person's real needs are actually taken care of. The taxpayer instead focuses on complying with the law, and an army of professional accountants is available to make sure he doesn't pay a penny more than the law requires.

The simply human need to have the recipient thank the giver is not a part of the present system. The two are placed in a tug of war, zero sum game, over the assets of the more productive members of society.

It is shameful how low this system has taken all of us. It is even more shameful how some politicians want to exploit and advance this system even more.

30 posted on 03/17/2008 1:28:37 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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That has nothing to do with self-reliance, and they know it. They favor black separatism, self-loathing and hate for Whitey. They would love it if there were racial strife. They would cheer it on. They would fuel it


31 posted on 03/17/2008 1:29:13 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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Just rhetoric. Will the same kind, loving forgiveness be given to Republicans? How about the guy who said Macaca?


32 posted on 03/17/2008 1:30:39 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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