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14 Years Later, Mystery Still Remains in the Death of Vince Foster
The New Media Journal ^ | 7/21/2007 | Kathy Miller

Posted on 03/01/2008 12:25:11 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature

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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Keep in mind that the FBI 302 forms are written after the agents return to the office. At best, they are based on memory and whatever notes the agents take during an interview. There are numerous accounts of the 302 forms containing just the opposite of what the person interviewed says he/she said.
81 posted on 03/01/2008 3:28:38 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: backhoe

“An oldie of mine”

Unrelated but notable—this thread was ongoing at the same time Lori Klausutis’ body was found in the office of Joe Scarborough on July 20, 2001.


82 posted on 03/01/2008 3:33:03 PM PST by reasonisfaith (The only way for honorable people to be liberal is to have no idea what conservatism is.)
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To: devere

FBI files.


83 posted on 03/01/2008 3:35:33 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: Non-Sequitur; DoughtyOne
But regardless, gun powder residue was found on both his hands.

Yes, a very unusual pattern consistent with Foster struggling to stop the gun barrel from entering his mouth, according to one story - if I remember correctly. A pattern very difficult to reproduce by suicide.

84 posted on 03/01/2008 3:36:07 PM PST by secretagent (When cooking frogs - don't bring to a boil too rapidly.)
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To: surrey
The involvement of Craig Livingston makes this whole thing stink. Why was some low-life,low-level flunkie given the job of identifying the body? He had an awful lot of access.

I knew Livingston from his days when he was working as an advance guy for Sen. Paul Simon during the 1988 Presidential race, this was back when I was a liberal. He and a number of other low life's came over from the Biden campaign after Joe had dropped out of the race due to the Kinnock plagiarism BS.

The fact that Craig ended up working in the Clinton WH, tells me everything I needed to know about the Clinton's ethics. Livingston in 1988 was probably the most overtly unethical person I'd ever met in politics. Couple that with his drug and alcohol issues and the guy was a complete train wreck.

I'll never forget my shock when I was thumbing through a Time or Newsweek magazine shortly after Clinton was elected and they had a two page color picture of "Clinton at work" or some such nonsense, and who's there in the background of the photo but Livingston and another lowlife that I'd met back in 1987-88 in Iowa.

The fact that Livingston was IDing the body and working in the Clinton White House stinks to high heaven with me.

85 posted on 03/01/2008 3:41:07 PM PST by G-Bob
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Move along - there’s nothing to see (or remember) here.

Everything is going to be O.K. and be sure to vote for her thighness.

When I snap my fingers, you will remember nothing.


86 posted on 03/01/2008 3:46:13 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Don't cheer for Obama too hard - the krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“FBI files”

Personally I don’t believe you could blackmail men like Ken Starr or Ross Perot with disclosure of FBI files. If you threatened to kill their children and/or grandchildren, that would impress them. I’m just speculating of course; I really know nothing.


87 posted on 03/01/2008 3:52:21 PM PST by devere
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Old but informative.

Yes, the article is about nine months old, but it can't be too informative since Ms. Miller can't present some of the basic and critical facts of the case correctly.

Right in the second sentence, she claims that Foster died from "a small caliber gunshot wound to the head." The truth is that he died from a small-caliber gunshot wound to the right side of his neck. That is the description of at least four eyewitnesses in the Park, and that was the wound seen by prosecutor Rodriguez on original photographs of the deceased, which were unfortunately touched up and never released to the public. An original photo of the wound was shown by Rodriguez to British reporter Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, who describes the neck wound in his book, "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton."

It is important to distinguish a neck wound from a head wound, because a gunshot to the neck rules out suicide to high degree of probability, in and of itself.

And that surely isn't the only error of fact in Ms. Miller's article.

88 posted on 03/01/2008 3:53:44 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: secretagent
Yes, a very unusual pattern consistent with Foster struggling to stop the gun barrel from entering his mouth, according to one story - if I remember correctly. A pattern very difficult to reproduce by suicide.

There is very little to believe in the official reports.

FBI Report to the Director


Then the Autopsy Report


89 posted on 03/01/2008 3:54:31 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: backhoe

Thanks Backhoe. Ive bookemarked it to read it all.


90 posted on 03/01/2008 3:58:21 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Hillary Clinton - It's OBAMAS Party and She'll Cry if She Wants to?)
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To: bert
There is not now and never has been a mystery. Hillary had him snuffed.

True, but she was only one of an entire cast of characters that had a role in this drama. Surely, her "husband" had to give the advance OK, or else this massive cover-up would not have happened.

91 posted on 03/01/2008 3:58:40 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: devere
MI

Another question is if he was killed, who actually was the trigger person.

He likely did not die in Fort Marcy Park. Even if he killed himself elsewhere, why was his body moved?

92 posted on 03/01/2008 3:59:51 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: devere
MI

Another question is if he was killed, who actually was the trigger person.

He likely did not die in Fort Marcy Park. Even if he killed himself elsewhere, why was his body moved?

93 posted on 03/01/2008 3:59:54 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: kjo
The author of Ron Brown's Body is Jack Cashill.
94 posted on 03/01/2008 4:00:13 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: labette

You are welcome labette.


95 posted on 03/01/2008 4:01:41 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Hillary Clinton - It's OBAMAS Party and She'll Cry if She Wants to?)
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To: justiceseeker93

.....she was only one of an entire cast of characters ....

You are correct in that statement. In my mind, Hillary managed the chicanery while Bill ran the enterprise. To keep the enterprise humming, she watched his back.


96 posted on 03/01/2008 4:03:02 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
... Now, if the suicide note was written by a righty???

Great, I just found my next search....thank you.

97 posted on 03/01/2008 4:04:57 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Hillary Clinton - It's OBAMAS Party and She'll Cry if She Wants to?)
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To: devere
“The masters of the Democrats and Republicans are one and the same.”

And who picks up the phone to order a man like Ken Starr to cover up a murder?. Even after reading “Tragedy and Hope”, I find this implied fact mind-boggling. It would seem that a credible threat of deadly force would have been needed, so who are the hired guns of the super-establishment? Did the same people get Ross Perot to drop out of the Presidential race in 1992? My tin foil hat is too small.

In eight years Bill Clinton made $50 million giving speeches. The rich gangsters have donated $100 million to his library. What could he possibly say that would be worth that much? Nothing. Who cares about his library? The only interesting stuff about him is not written down; it was whispered into cronies' ears. The money flowing his way is simply a pure demonstration by the financial masters to the politicians now in power to do their bidding or else they won't get rewarded after office. Ever see a political loser get paid off? Maybe your tinfoil hat making you see high school civics 101 played out in real life is covering your whole head

98 posted on 03/01/2008 4:06:11 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (<I>)
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To: Non-Sequitur
See post #89. The report indicates that residue was only found on one hand. (The line right after the one in red)

If you have a link to a document with a statement that there was residue found on both hands i would like to see it.

Thanks if you find it.

INBN

99 posted on 03/01/2008 4:11:17 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Hillary Clinton - It's OBAMAS Party and She'll Cry if She Wants to?)
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To: bjs1779; Non-Sequitur

First report says no exit wound, and the second report finds an exit wound in the back of the head.

First document says gun powder found on only one hand, contradicting what I thought I read somewhere.


100 posted on 03/01/2008 4:14:07 PM PST by secretagent (When cooking frogs - don't bring to a boil too rapidly.)
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