Posted on 02/29/2008 5:32:07 AM PST by OKSooner
A safety alert put out by the Atlanta Police Department's homeland security unit, warns officers to be extra careful because of the ammunition.
Brian Hill with Tulsa's U.S. Shooting Academy agreed to help test the ammunition.
The ad for the ammunition says it shoots dozens of steel darts that cause unbelievable trauma.
Police are facing a deadly new threat. It's a new type of ammunition that can penetrate a bullet-proof vest. News On 6 crime reporter Lori Fullbright found anyone can buy it.
A safety alert put out by the Atlanta Police Department's homeland security unit, warns officers to be extra careful because of the ammunition.
Brian Hill with Tulsa's U.S. Shooting Academy agreed to help test the ammunition.
The academy teaches everything from basic self-defense to highly specialized weapons training to citizens, police officers and the military.
A police vest was put on a dummy and Hill took a couple of shots.
It could be seen that the vest was penetrated all the way through.
The ad for the ammunition says it shoots dozens of steel darts that cause unbelievable trauma.
Hill says NATO would not allow the military to use something like this, because although it can kill, it's intended to maim. He says to get self-protection, there are much better choices.
"If stopping an intruder in your home is your goal, this isn't the first or second ammo you should choose, its way down the list," said Hill.
The results were shown to tactical expert Sergeant Luke Sherman with the Tulsa Police Department.
Sergeant Sherman says officers worry more about seeing a gun than what ammunition is inside, but it's still hard to understand, marketing something that penetrates a vest.
"Millions of Americans have firearms and are always experimenting with new things. Maybe it was somebody's idea to market something that will be neat down the road, but, to me, it's not," said Sergeant Sherman.
One of the shells contains a dozen steel darts, just as advertised.
Hill shot the vest with a .40-caliber firearm. The bullet did not penetrate the 15-year-old vest.
The ammunition is legal, it's just a reminder the dangerous new threats police officers constantly face.
One sergeant recently briefed his squad on this new ammunition, just to make them aware it exists.
It depends where you live. It was legal in one state I lived it, but not in another that I moved to. Of course, it was legal for the military and police to have it. Big fear was that it might penetrate a protective vest. Not sure if it was ever tested...
And during the 1992 LA riots you had Korean convenience store owners on top of their businesses with rifles holding off the mobs, after the cops were seen on TV running away like frightened schoolgirls
We could have used a few of those storeowners in NYC during the Crown Heights riots, when the NYC police dutifully obeyed Mayor Dinkins desire for them to show "restraint" towards the rioters
I think I'm gonna cry...as a citizen of the un-vested masses...
The flechette is a hard, sharp steel dart, imparting its penetrating energy into a very tiny area.
Yep, cops follow orders as does the military. That doesn’t mean they liked it.
“No doubt a victim of the Imperial Federal Schools System.”
(sounds like a line from Clockwork Orange).
Don’t you just love the anti New York bias in here.
A little off subject but I hate the term “Homeland”. It make me think of apartheid and Nazi’s.
When you start seeing cities like Atlanta naming departments “Homeland Security” you know it’s just pure BS. Orwell would love Bush.
After reading your post I believe there may be hope for FR yet, as someone else said “I like the way you think”.
LOL Yes I do! But for the most liberal state in the union is the bias unreasonable?
Thanks. Sometimes I feel like I’m about to be overrun by the enemy even on this forum.
Yes remember it well. There were no police (or roofers) killed so what is your point?
I know the feeling, some times I shake my head in despair.
Please read the article. It is not about shotgun shells. It mentions .40 caliber handgun rounds, but no shotgun-pistols or anything of the sort.
I don't doubt it's effective but I shudder to think what it does to the inside of the barrel.
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Somebody who went to 12 funerals, was there in the 93 bombing and who, as more than a few non-nutcase freepers know, worked SAR at GZ while it was still burning.
A number of Americans from Georgia and Alabama drove all night on the 11th and found their way to the pit at GZ. You're a tough talker. What did you do when your country was attacked, I mean besides sit on the couch with one hand on the remote and the other on your best friend?
What’s idiotic about it?
Looks pretty accurate to me.
“I mean besides sit on the couch with one hand on the remote and the other on your best friend?”
I started phoning and writing my congress critter to go after the country responsible. I am completely disabled. I am on oxygen and heavy medications form wounds and other injuries I received in Vietnam as our LZ was overrun. I also stumble along with a cane and the aid of my wife.
My wife and I also help two mothers who have a husband in Iraq with their finances. That’s what we do.
make it sharp and pointy and it’ll cut better, but it’ll lose the blunt trauma impact.
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