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NYT: McCain's Birthplace in Canal Zone Raises Eligibility Questions...
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Posted on 02/27/2008 6:12:38 PM PST by Kay Ludlow

NYT: MCCAIN'S BIRTHPLACE IN CANAL ZONE RAISES ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONS...


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To: the invisib1e hand
I thought it was "the medium is the message". Or another way to say it is that the way you dress says a lot about you. Or people do judge a book by its cover. Or birds of a feather flock together.
441 posted on 02/27/2008 10:58:39 PM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: BushCountry

I just looked it up because of curiosity in knowing that the current King of Thailand was born in the USA. Because his parents were here and were part of the royal family, they did not fall under the jurisdiction of the US government, thus, the King of Thailand is not a USA citizen even though he was born here.

Someone should mention to the NYT that the King of Thailand could run for USA presidency. If they can get one thing wrong without bothering to check, I would imagine they would gladly run a story about a foriegn monarch being eligible to run for US President. Plus, there is the whole other thing about residing for a certain amount of time in the USA to be eligible to be President.


442 posted on 02/27/2008 11:03:26 PM PST by dirtman
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To: dirtman; BushCountry
I just looked it up because of curiosity in knowing that the current King of Thailand was born in the USA. Because his parents were here and were part of the royal family, they did not fall under the jurisdiction of the US government, thus, the King of Thailand is not a USA citizen even though he was born here.

You are absolutely correct. Also, the children of foreign diplomats born in the US are not US citizens.

443 posted on 02/27/2008 11:15:30 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Kay Ludlow

If you parents are citizens of the US, it doesn’t matter where you are born.


444 posted on 02/27/2008 11:34:37 PM PST by LukeL
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To: CJ Wolf
Do you honestly believe that children of US military or diplomatic personnel born overseas are not born US citizens?
445 posted on 02/27/2008 11:44:32 PM PST by iowamark
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To: BushCountry

My son was born overseas on a US Military Base. When we applied for his birth certificate and citizenship paperwork, we asked this very question. They explained to us that he has dual citizenship, could be anything he wanted to be, do anything he wanted to do as an American Citzien EXCEPT be POTUS. The Military Base did NOT qualify as American soil.


446 posted on 02/27/2008 11:45:54 PM PST by publana (Jeff Sessions -- VP for conservatism!)
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To: factmart

Just curious.

Where were you born?

You don’t speak like a natural born American.


447 posted on 02/27/2008 11:51:06 PM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Brilliant
Not to me. His parents were American. What could be more clear than that?

Not only that, he was born on a U.S. military base, in the Panama Canal Zone, a territory ruled by the United States of America, because his father was active duty military serving his country, America.

There isn't a more "American" birthplace than that.


448 posted on 02/28/2008 12:04:03 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Lokibob
The Canal Zone was leased for 99 years from the country of Panama.

Not quite. The Canal Zone was established "in perpetuity" by the 1903 Hay-Bunau Varilla Treaty and ceased to exist in 1979 as a result of the Carter-Torrijos Treaty of 1977.

449 posted on 02/28/2008 12:05:29 AM PST by iowamark
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To: Kay Ludlow

Wish that were true, then the Republicans can pick someone else from their convention.


450 posted on 02/28/2008 12:07:42 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: publana; BushCountry
My son was born overseas on a US Military Base. When we applied for his birth certificate and citizenship paperwork, we asked this very question. They explained to us that he has dual citizenship, could be anything he wanted to be, do anything he wanted to do as an American Citzien EXCEPT be POTUS. The Military Base did NOT qualify as American soil.

Tell your son to start raising money now for his Presidential race.

When you have a legal question, check what the law says and not the opinions of Gubbmint clerks chewing gum and shuffling papers.

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Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution: No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President

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Naturalization Act of 1790 ---- "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens".

451 posted on 02/28/2008 12:36:41 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius

I wouldn’t dare tell my son that he can run for POTUS. He’s a little too left for my tastes. Granted, he’s much more conservative than McQueeg, but still too liberal.


452 posted on 02/28/2008 1:11:45 AM PST by publana (Jeff Sessions -- VP for conservatism!)
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To: publana
My son was born overseas on a US Military Base. When we applied for his birth certificate and citizenship paperwork, we asked this very question. They explained to us that he has dual citizenship, could be anything he wanted to be, do anything he wanted to do as an American Citzien EXCEPT be POTUS. The Military Base did NOT qualify as American soil.

You may have been told that but it is almost certainly incorrect.

US Citizenship and Immigration Services: Naturalization Eligibility
...the United States recognizes the U.S. citizenship of individuals according to two fundamental principles: jus soli, or right of birthplace, and jus sanguinis, or right of blood....

Certain individuals born outside of the United States are born citizens because of their parents, according to the principle of jus sanguinis (which holds that the country of citizenship of a child is the same as that of his / her parents). The U.S. Congress is responsible for enacting laws that determine how citizenship is conveyed by a U.S. citizen parent or parents according to the principle of jus sanguinis. These laws are contained in the Immigration and Nationality Act.

Information on who is a citizen or national at birth can be found in the following sections of the INA: § 301, § 302, § 303, § 304, § 305, § 306, § 307, § 308, and § 309.

453 posted on 02/28/2008 1:21:16 AM PST by iowamark
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To: Kay Ludlow
Does the man have an American Birth Certificate?

If so.. END GAME...

454 posted on 02/28/2008 2:16:59 AM PST by cdnerds (Voting for McCain in 2008 - and bringing people with me to make up for your vote.)
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To: apocalypto

Your teacher was wrong.


455 posted on 02/28/2008 2:38:21 AM PST by austinrepub
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To: Kay Ludlow
FredHeads Rejoice!

But seriously, folks, this is BS.

The New York Times is proving, in case anyone yet had any doubts, that they are complete hacks, who are willing to say or do anything to monkeywrench the Republican's electoral machinery.

456 posted on 02/28/2008 2:59:42 AM PST by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 7, 2008.)
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To: ChocChipCookie

oh my god they are desparate!


457 posted on 02/28/2008 3:02:01 AM PST by TinaJeannes
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To: Brilliant

His dad was an admiral in us navy and they were stationed there. and at that time panama canal was us terrotory anyways they are losing thier minds


458 posted on 02/28/2008 3:03:24 AM PST by TinaJeannes
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To: Brilliant

I believe his Dad, the Navy Admiral, was stationed in the Canal Zone when John was born. End of discussion.


459 posted on 02/28/2008 3:36:54 AM PST by societygirl
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To: Kay Ludlow
Hmmmm....Only "natural born". Hope someone's researching to see Barack Hussien might have been born by Ceasarian section.
460 posted on 02/28/2008 3:39:42 AM PST by Reo
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