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Noah’s Ark nestled on Mount Ararat
The Peninsula ^ | January 19, 2008 | Satish Kanady

Posted on 02/17/2008 5:05:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Dogubayazit (Turkey’s Iran-Armenian Border) • For the first time in the seven decade-long history of the search for the legendary Noah’s Ark, a Turkish-Hong Kong exploration team on Tuesday came out with “material evidence”, to prove that the Ark was nestled on Mount Ararat, Turkey’s highest mountain peak bordering Iran and Armenia.

A panel of experts, comprising Turkish authorities, veteran mountaineers, archaeologists, geologists and members of Hong Kong-based Noah’s Ark Ministries International, also displayed an almost one-metre-long peice of petrified wood before the media and specially invited international experts.

The experts claimed it to be a part of a long structure they had unearthed during their February-August 2007 exploration. “It is for the first time in the history of the Ark search that an exploration team is getting a material evidence and graphic documentation. This makes it not only a the significant breakthrough in the Ark-search, but one that is supported with the most substantial evidence in recent history,” the panel said.

The revelation is expected to open up a fresh chapter in the ongoing debates in the scientific community on the search for Noah’s Ark.

Narrating the genesis of their exploration on Mount Ararat, the mount which has a direct reference in Holy Quran (Mount Judi) and Bible, the panel said the search team had made several foiled attempts before unearthing the evidence at an altitude of 4,500-metres of the estimated 5,165 metre volcanic mountain.

“The structure was discovered in the interiors of an unusual cave. The 11.5m wide and 2.6m high white wooden texture was revealed after removing thick layers of volcanic ash on the cave wall,” panel members said at a press conference.

One of the underlying issues in the search for the Ark is the proper identification of its wood fragments. A petrographic examination carried out by the Applied Geoscience Centre of the Department of Earth Sciences, University of Hong Kong, identified the object as a petrified wooden structure, the panel said.

“Some of the big holes found on the structure indicate the locations where branches used to grow on tree. In places, original holes are partly or completely replaced by individual minerals and crystalline materials that can be found in rock materials,” said Dr Ahmet Ozbek, a panel member, who is also a faculty of Geology Engineering Kahramanmara Suctcu Imam University.

Dismissing the possibilities of the structure being wood that could appear naturally around the discovery site, Professor Oktay Belli, director, Eurasian Archaeology Institute, University of Istanbul, said researches have proved that there was no vegetation on Mount Ararat ever since 2000BC, because of the asperities of Ararat’s climate.

Talking to The Peninsula, Cemalettin Demircioglu, Dogubayazit City Governor, under whose jurisdiction the mount is located, said the civic body will invite more international experts to conduct further scientific studies on Mount Ararat.

“History has more than one times corroborated the legendary evidence that the ark was nestled on Mount Ararat. We will introduce the latest findings to the world and continue the scientific study. All interested scientists and NGOs can join our missions” he said. However, he said, those who are involved in the project must ensure the findings are not used politically, religiously, or for any vested interest.

Located in the Far Eastern Turkey, Ararat is great prize for mountain collectors. Ark sighting has often been reported from this mountain. The observation of Vessel-shaped features in aerial photograph of Ararat had caused a stir in the late 1950’s. However, this is the first time an exploration team is coming out with “material evidence”.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: ararat; bible; catastrophism; christianity; genesis; godsgravesglyphs; judaism; noah; noahsark; proof; turkey
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To: Sudetenland

LOL at least it’s a starting point. Of course that’s assuming a cubit has always been even in that range. I have no idea.
susie


161 posted on 02/18/2008 9:27:17 AM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Hiddigeigei

Water twenty-two and a half feet above Mount Everest. Wow! How did they know how deep it was? I reckon old Noah must have paddled over there and dropped a plumb line.

+++++++++++++++

Or God told us.


162 posted on 02/18/2008 9:30:54 AM PST by fproy2222
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To: MrPiper
Ah, how many millions of years does it take to petrify wood?

I would suppose that depends on the process. Since Arafat is described here as a volcano, the process might be quite rapid. After all, they did find petrified people when they dug up Pompeii. That gives an upper bound on the least time needed to petrify organic remains of about 2000 years.

163 posted on 02/18/2008 10:51:01 AM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: slowhandluke

Argh.... Ararat, not Arafat.


164 posted on 02/18/2008 10:52:19 AM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If I had a dollar for everytime this was reported, I’d have more money than the Vatican.


165 posted on 02/18/2008 10:53:24 AM PST by toddlintown (Ronald Reagan would vote for McCain, just like he sucked it up and supported Gerry Ford.)
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To: Tax-chick
It’s amazing that, in the 21st Century, a place could be so remote that it’s resistant to archaeological study.

It is not just the remoteness of that region of Turkey, but the nature of the local inhabitants which has caused difficulties in any possible search.

The area is rugged, and populated with fierce folk who answer only to themselves, and not Turkish law. These folks are extremely suspicious of outsiders, and have been known to kill them on sight. Thus, the Turkish government issues few permits for archaeological expeditions to the Ararat region, as they don't wish to deal with the ramifications of a slaughtered archaeological team.

the infowarrior

166 posted on 02/18/2008 11:02:55 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: Sudetenland

Well, Jesus believed in Adam and Eve. And so did Paul. Good enough for them, good enough for me.

Just remembered to tell you that Noah lived for six hundred years. Lost of propagating going on then.


167 posted on 02/18/2008 11:05:48 AM PST by IreneE (Live for nothing or die for something.)
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To: fproy2222
Noah an' Jonah an' Cap'n John Smith,
Mariners, travelers, magazines of myth,
Settin' up in Heaven, chewin' and
a-chawin'
Eatin' their terbaccy, talkin' and a-jawin';
Settin' by a crick, spittin' in the worter,
Talkin' tall an' tactless, as saints hadn't orter,
Lollin' in the shade, baitin' hooks and anglin',
Occasionally friendly, occasionally wranglin'.

Noah took his halo from his old bald head
An' swatted of a hoppergrass an' knocked it dead,
An' he baited of his hook, an' he spoke an' said:
"When I was the Skipper of the tight leetle Ark
I useter fish fer porpus, useter fish fer shark,
Often I have ketched in a single hour on Monday
Sharks enough to feed the fambly till Sunday—
To feed all the sarpints, the tigers an' donkeys,
To feed all the zebras, the insects an' monkeys,
To feed all the varmints, bears an' gorillars,
To feed all the camels, cats an' armadillers,
To give all the pelicans stews for their gizzards,
To feed all the owls an' catamounts an' lizards,
To feed all the humans, their babies an' their
nusses,
To feed all the houn' dawgs an' hippopotamusses,
To feed all the oxens, feed all the asses,
Feed all the bison an' leetle hoppergrasses—
Always I ketched, in half a hour on Monday
All that the fambly could gormandize till Sunday!"

Jonah took his harp, to strum and to string her,
An' Cap'n John Smith teched his nose with his
Finger.
Cap'n John Smith, he hemmed some an' hawed
some,
An' he bit off a chaw, an' he chewed some and
chawed some:—
168 posted on 02/18/2008 11:10:33 AM PST by Hiddigeigei (Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder. [Arnold Toynbee])
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To: IreneE

Yep, incest at its best.


169 posted on 02/18/2008 11:42:06 AM PST by Sudetenland (McQueeg or Obama? McQueeg or Obama? Emotionally Unstable or Socialist? Decisions decisions!)
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To: Salvavida

Ping to that link.

Thanks for posting that! Thats absolutely facinating!


170 posted on 02/18/2008 11:44:47 AM PST by Danae (Remember: Obama = Pull out from Iraq. PLAN on voting, or accept responsibility for the consequences.)
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To: ForGod'sSake
Nah, that's your tin-hat rattling moonbat. Atlantis is a pagan legend related by Plato...not much there concerning Judeo-Christian beliefs. Plato also believed in Zeus and Hera. Does that mean I should believe that we learned of fire because Prometheus stole it from Zeus?

Have fun in your alternate universe...you haven't taking your meds lately have you?
171 posted on 02/18/2008 11:48:51 AM PST by Sudetenland (McQueeg or Obama? McQueeg or Obama? Emotionally Unstable or Socialist? Decisions decisions!)
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To: toddlintown

Impossible! The Vatican is richer than the Vatican. :)


172 posted on 02/18/2008 11:50:38 AM PST by Sudetenland (McQueeg or Obama? McQueeg or Obama? Emotionally Unstable or Socialist? Decisions decisions!)
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To: Hiddigeigei
Just a guess, I heard an opinion, that after God had His animals enter the Ark, He had them sleep a deep sleep, so they would be little trouble for His human caretakers.
173 posted on 02/18/2008 12:03:30 PM PST by fproy2222
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
So how do we exactly do a gopher wood test?

Put it in a box of dirt. See if it tries to dig a hole.

Or maybe that's the the dogwood test....

174 posted on 02/18/2008 12:06:00 PM PST by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: Cvengr
Ah, how many millions of years does it take to petrify wood? Depends how frequently Janet Reno, Hillary Clinton, or Helen Thomas had been in proximity.

In their case, I don't think it would be possible to petrify wood without pharmaceuticals (taken in unhealthy quantities).

175 posted on 02/18/2008 12:09:53 PM PST by r9etb
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To: tillacum

Thanks! I agree with yours too.


176 posted on 02/18/2008 12:19:42 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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Uh-oh, global warming has exposed Noah's Ark. ;')
 
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177 posted on 02/18/2008 12:20:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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178 posted on 02/18/2008 12:21:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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bookmark!


179 posted on 02/18/2008 12:23:01 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Tax-chick
On the other hand, that thrill-seeking pilot Mr. Fossett was just declared dead

They lost no time in declaring him legally dead. Only 5 months. With a man of his wealth, they were in a hurry to divvy up his money!

180 posted on 02/18/2008 12:26:06 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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