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more popcorn.....
1 posted on 02/16/2008 2:11:12 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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Wow. The word hubris don't even come close to covering this....
2 posted on 02/16/2008 2:13:15 PM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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You go, girl!

The first Clinton, Inc. Presidency nearly destroyed the Demagogue Party.

With any luck, a second would finish the job.

3 posted on 02/16/2008 2:14:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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If this happens, it may finally convince blacks that the Dims are not their friends.


4 posted on 02/16/2008 2:14:37 PM PST by KevinB
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putting another log on the fire.


6 posted on 02/16/2008 2:15:31 PM PST by mware (Americans in arm chairs doing the job that the media refuses to do.)
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The Obama supporters will riot in Denver if this happens!


7 posted on 02/16/2008 2:17:22 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Change.....that's what we will have left in our pockets if a Democrat gets elected president!)
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But...but...but the will of the people is being thwarted. The voters are being disenfranchised!

On the good side, this ain’t gonna sit well with the rank and file RATs. Maybe the RATs are going to bleed out a significant portion of their base like Pubbies are doing now.


8 posted on 02/16/2008 2:17:46 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Get yer red meat, tobaccy and ammo, now. The krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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OK...


9 posted on 02/16/2008 2:18:06 PM PST by quark
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Yeah...pass the popcorn... You know, you couldn't make this stuff up. What fabulous entertainment. Problem is, no matter who gets the Dem nomination, our choice will still be between two Dems.
10 posted on 02/16/2008 2:18:36 PM PST by kjo
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Wow! The Dims are going to disenfranchise blacks and alienate the base.

Way to go!!!


11 posted on 02/16/2008 2:18:55 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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1) FBI files are very useful for keeping recalcitrant party members in line. The collective knows about all your little secrets. (What sort of investigation was able to bring forth an Obama essay that he did IN FIRST GRADE? The Clintons must have 200 or 300 investigators on their “research staff.”

2) Ickes is his name.

12 posted on 02/16/2008 2:19:42 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission (Your cat is dead....)
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13 posted on 02/16/2008 2:19:45 PM PST by BGHater ($2300 is the limit of your Free Speech.)
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Her inside polling numbers must be a disaster.Tell the the orchestra to assemble, she's getting ready to sing.


16 posted on 02/16/2008 2:22:07 PM PST by COUNTrecount
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Arrogance is her mantra, but if indeed, the superdelegates throw the race to Hillary in contravention of the popular votes or elected electors, then I am all for it. I want to see the ads (527 ads from amused Republicans and I am one) that reflect a picture of Hillary cackling as some Uncle Tom whips chained blacks as they shuffle back through a gate with a big Democrat Plantation sign over it. Some voice overs might include Obama touting change, crying and someone sarcastically shouting “and you thought you were free, Ha.” The blacks will at least sit out or maybe even re-assess who has really done what for whom since the civil rights acts.


17 posted on 02/16/2008 2:24:17 PM PST by MarkT
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Harold Ickes is not so widely known as some of clinton’s other spinmeisters, but he is one of the worst. A real mobster.


18 posted on 02/16/2008 2:24:20 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Was there ever any doubt? Should be fun to watch. I hope the rioting stay away from here.


19 posted on 02/16/2008 2:24:25 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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a few days back, some Freeper did a nice analysis...and determined that neither candidate could get to the 2200 + delegates needed for the nomination.

This thing is going to at least a 2nd vote and if it does, Obama probably gets more delegaes. If goes past 2 votes, look for Al Gore to be the compromise, if he wants it.

20 posted on 02/16/2008 2:24:39 PM PST by stylin19a
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Well, you know what the good old constitution says, the President of the United States should be chosen by highly paid, bribed, “super delegates.” The ‘RAT party is so enlightened and progressive that it scares me.


21 posted on 02/16/2008 2:26:03 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Join in the spirit of "hope!" Change is good! Embrace climate change!)
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Harold Ickes

Co-founder and unofficial director of the Democrat Shadow Party

Sought chairmanship of the Democratic Party in February 2005

Ran Hillary Clinton’s successful Senate campaign in 1999-2000

Former Deputy Chief of Staff for the Clinton White House

In his law practice, he represented Mob-run labor unions with ties to the Lucchese, Colombo, Genovese, Gambino and other major crime families.

Ickes met Bill Clinton while both were working on Operation Pursestrings, a grassroots lobbying effort aimed at pushing through the 1970 Hatfield-McGovern Amendment to cut off all military aid to South Vietnam. (Hatfield-McGovern was defeated, but subsequent measures promoted by Senator Ted Kennedy succeeded in slashing U.S. aid to South Vietnam by 80 percent in the next three years. By 1975, South Vietnam and Cambodia could no longer afford to defend themselves. They fell to the Communists, who promptly slaughtered 2-3 million people in Indochina.)

In 1977 Ickes joined the Mineola, New York law firm Meyer, Suozzi, English & Klein, taking charge of its labor practice. Among the crooked unions Ickes represented for the firm were Local 100 of HERE — the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees International Union — which was jointly controlled by the Colombo and Gambino crime families; the New York City District Council of Carpenters, then controlled by the Genovese crime family; and Teamsters Local 851, which ran the air freight rackets at JFK airport for the Lucchese crime family.

Ickes would later surface at the center of the so-called “Teamstergate” scandal — a complex money-laundering scheme in which several high-level Democrat leaders and union bosses who were directly implicated in the case mysteriously escaped prosecution. Among those major players were Service Employees International Union (SEIU) head Andrew Stern; American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) chief Gerald McEntee; Terry McAuliffe, who then headed the Clinton-Gore reelection campaign; and Harold Ickes himself.

Insiders have long noted Ickes’ special loyalty toward Hillary Clinton. The Boston Globe called him “a special favorite of the president’s wife.” In the Clinton White House, Ickes quickly gravitated to Hillary’s end of the operation. He served initially as “health care czar,” charged with rescuing the First Lady’s floundering Health Security Act. Mrs. Clinton later placed Ickes in charge of a special unit within the White House Counsel’s office, dedicated to suppressing Clinton scandals. It operated, in effect, as a Counsel’s office within the Counsel’s office. In his book The Seduction of Hillary Rodham, David Brock refers to Ickes’ special unit as the “Shadow Counsel’s Office.” Its operatives included Mark Fabiani, Chris Lehane and Jane Sherburne. Ickes reported directly to Hillary Clinton on all matters related to the work of this special unit.

Because so many of his duties involved damage control during Clinton scandals, Ickes wryly referred to his role as “Director of Sanitation.” “Whenever there was something that [Bill Clinton] thought required ruthlessness or vengeance or sharp elbows and sharp knees or, frankly, skulduggery, he would give it to Harold,” former Clinton advisor Dick Morris told Vanity Fair in September 1997.

By 1996, federal investigators had begun zeroing in on Ickes’ involvement in numerous Clinton scandals, including Filegate (the illegal commandeering of more than a thousand secret FBI background files on potential Clinton foes) and Chinagate (the selling of military secrets to Red China in exchange for campaign contributions). Thus Ickes was becoming a liability to the Clinton White House; two months after Bill Clinton’s November 1996 reelection, the President fired him.

In 1999, Ickes was appointed Hillary Clinton’s chief campaign advisor in her 2000 run for the U.S. Senate. According to Ickes, he accepted the job after a four-hour meeting with Mrs. Clinton on February 12, 1999 — the same day that the U.S. Senate voted on Bill Clinton’s impeachment. “I’m really doing this out of my friendship for Hillary, pure and simple,” Ickes told the Associated Press on June 17, 1999. “She called and there was no way I was going to say no to Hillary.”

Following Mrs. Clinton’s successful election, Ickes played a central role in creating the Democrat Shadow Party. After passage of the McCain-Feingold Act of March 27, 2002, Ickes helped put Shadow Party architect George Soros together with activists Andrew Stern, Ellen R. Malcolm, Steven Rosenthal, Gina Glantz, Cecile Richards, and other leftwing Democrats who were seeking ways to circumvent McCain-Feingold’s soft-money ban. Working closely with Soros, Ickes personally helped launch six of the seven organizations that formed the Shadow Party’s core during the 2004 election, including America Coming Together, America Votes, the Center for American Progress, Joint Victory Campaign 2004, the Media Fund, and the Thunder Road Group.

http://tinyurl.com/2lhj5r


22 posted on 02/16/2008 2:26:26 PM PST by kcvl
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Obama will be President, it may not be 2008 election, but i think it will happen sadly


23 posted on 02/16/2008 2:26:41 PM PST by mel
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If this happens, I hope Denver has well trained riot police, and maybe some crowd control training for the Colorado National Guard would be wise.


25 posted on 02/16/2008 2:31:04 PM PST by Will88 ( The Worst Case Scenario: McCain with a Dhimm majority in the House and Senate)
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