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Top Clinton Adviser Says Superdelegates Will Decide Election, Obama's Victories 'Irrelevant'
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Posted on 02/16/2008 2:11:10 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Top Clinton Adviser Says Superdelegates Will Decide Election, Obama's Victories 'Irrelevant'

Saturday , February 16, 2008

A top Hillary Clinton adviser on Saturday boldly predicted his candidate would lock down the nomination before the August convention by definitively winning over party insiders and officials known as superdelegates, claiming the number of state elections won by rival Barack Obama would be "irrelevant" to their decision.

The claims no doubt will escalate the war of words between the campaigns, as Obama continues to argue superdelegates should vote the way of their districts. But the special class of delegates, which make up about 20 percent of the total delegate haul, are not bound to vote the way of their states and districts, as pledged delegates are.

Obama leads handily in the pledged delegate count and has won more states but trails Clinton in superdelegates, making them potential and controversial deadlock-breakers if the race ends up a dead heat come convention time.

Harold Ickes, a 40-year party operative charged with winning over superdelegates for the Clinton campaign, made no apologies on Saturday for the campaign's convention strategy.

"We're going to win this nomination," Ickes said, adding that they would do so soon after the last contest on June 7 in Puerto Rico. "You're not going to see this go to the convention floor."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; clintonistas; criminalenterprise; democrats; election; hillary; ickes; superdelegates
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, you know what the good old constitution says, the President of the United States should be chosen by highly paid, bribed, “super delegates.” The ‘RAT party is so enlightened and progressive that it scares me.


21 posted on 02/16/2008 2:26:03 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Join in the spirit of "hope!" Change is good! Embrace climate change!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Harold Ickes

Co-founder and unofficial director of the Democrat Shadow Party

Sought chairmanship of the Democratic Party in February 2005

Ran Hillary Clinton’s successful Senate campaign in 1999-2000

Former Deputy Chief of Staff for the Clinton White House

In his law practice, he represented Mob-run labor unions with ties to the Lucchese, Colombo, Genovese, Gambino and other major crime families.

Ickes met Bill Clinton while both were working on Operation Pursestrings, a grassroots lobbying effort aimed at pushing through the 1970 Hatfield-McGovern Amendment to cut off all military aid to South Vietnam. (Hatfield-McGovern was defeated, but subsequent measures promoted by Senator Ted Kennedy succeeded in slashing U.S. aid to South Vietnam by 80 percent in the next three years. By 1975, South Vietnam and Cambodia could no longer afford to defend themselves. They fell to the Communists, who promptly slaughtered 2-3 million people in Indochina.)

In 1977 Ickes joined the Mineola, New York law firm Meyer, Suozzi, English & Klein, taking charge of its labor practice. Among the crooked unions Ickes represented for the firm were Local 100 of HERE — the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees International Union — which was jointly controlled by the Colombo and Gambino crime families; the New York City District Council of Carpenters, then controlled by the Genovese crime family; and Teamsters Local 851, which ran the air freight rackets at JFK airport for the Lucchese crime family.

Ickes would later surface at the center of the so-called “Teamstergate” scandal — a complex money-laundering scheme in which several high-level Democrat leaders and union bosses who were directly implicated in the case mysteriously escaped prosecution. Among those major players were Service Employees International Union (SEIU) head Andrew Stern; American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) chief Gerald McEntee; Terry McAuliffe, who then headed the Clinton-Gore reelection campaign; and Harold Ickes himself.

Insiders have long noted Ickes’ special loyalty toward Hillary Clinton. The Boston Globe called him “a special favorite of the president’s wife.” In the Clinton White House, Ickes quickly gravitated to Hillary’s end of the operation. He served initially as “health care czar,” charged with rescuing the First Lady’s floundering Health Security Act. Mrs. Clinton later placed Ickes in charge of a special unit within the White House Counsel’s office, dedicated to suppressing Clinton scandals. It operated, in effect, as a Counsel’s office within the Counsel’s office. In his book The Seduction of Hillary Rodham, David Brock refers to Ickes’ special unit as the “Shadow Counsel’s Office.” Its operatives included Mark Fabiani, Chris Lehane and Jane Sherburne. Ickes reported directly to Hillary Clinton on all matters related to the work of this special unit.

Because so many of his duties involved damage control during Clinton scandals, Ickes wryly referred to his role as “Director of Sanitation.” “Whenever there was something that [Bill Clinton] thought required ruthlessness or vengeance or sharp elbows and sharp knees or, frankly, skulduggery, he would give it to Harold,” former Clinton advisor Dick Morris told Vanity Fair in September 1997.

By 1996, federal investigators had begun zeroing in on Ickes’ involvement in numerous Clinton scandals, including Filegate (the illegal commandeering of more than a thousand secret FBI background files on potential Clinton foes) and Chinagate (the selling of military secrets to Red China in exchange for campaign contributions). Thus Ickes was becoming a liability to the Clinton White House; two months after Bill Clinton’s November 1996 reelection, the President fired him.

In 1999, Ickes was appointed Hillary Clinton’s chief campaign advisor in her 2000 run for the U.S. Senate. According to Ickes, he accepted the job after a four-hour meeting with Mrs. Clinton on February 12, 1999 — the same day that the U.S. Senate voted on Bill Clinton’s impeachment. “I’m really doing this out of my friendship for Hillary, pure and simple,” Ickes told the Associated Press on June 17, 1999. “She called and there was no way I was going to say no to Hillary.”

Following Mrs. Clinton’s successful election, Ickes played a central role in creating the Democrat Shadow Party. After passage of the McCain-Feingold Act of March 27, 2002, Ickes helped put Shadow Party architect George Soros together with activists Andrew Stern, Ellen R. Malcolm, Steven Rosenthal, Gina Glantz, Cecile Richards, and other leftwing Democrats who were seeking ways to circumvent McCain-Feingold’s soft-money ban. Working closely with Soros, Ickes personally helped launch six of the seven organizations that formed the Shadow Party’s core during the 2004 election, including America Coming Together, America Votes, the Center for American Progress, Joint Victory Campaign 2004, the Media Fund, and the Thunder Road Group.

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22 posted on 02/16/2008 2:26:26 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama will be President, it may not be 2008 election, but i think it will happen sadly


23 posted on 02/16/2008 2:26:41 PM PST by mel
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To: Cicero

The apple did not fall far from the tree. Ickes dad was a real piece of work also.


24 posted on 02/16/2008 2:28:10 PM PST by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: Sub-Driver

If this happens, I hope Denver has well trained riot police, and maybe some crowd control training for the Colorado National Guard would be wise.


25 posted on 02/16/2008 2:31:04 PM PST by Will88 ( The Worst Case Scenario: McCain with a Dhimm majority in the House and Senate)
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To: mewzilla

To those in the know, Harock Ickes is not just named as the derivative of icky but he is in fact a scumbag for all seasons. He is the perfect Clintonite out of New York City with a heavy resume of scumbagness and corruption.

That this message comes from him and he is NAMED in the article makes it perfect.

The journalist should get a reward for this. It’s not an unnamed source or anonymous Clinton advisor, he’s actually named.

Now let’s see what the media does with it. If that was a Republican this would be leading the news for days!


26 posted on 02/16/2008 2:31:18 PM PST by romanesq
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To: mewzilla
I guess the gay-sex-and-drugs-in-the limo thing must be just fer starters...

If there is no stained blue dress with DNA "evidence", then it didn't happen.

27 posted on 02/16/2008 2:32:02 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Sub-Driver
Photobucket "Resistance is futile. I will be nominated."
28 posted on 02/16/2008 2:32:22 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Sub-Driver

Harold McEwen Ickes—”technically a volunteer for the campaign known as Hillary for President”—is “Adviser to the Campaign Manager” for Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.)’s 2008 presidential campaign, The Politico reported April 18, 2007.

Ickes’ firm—Ickes and Enright Group—is part of Washington D.C.-based lobbying firm Griffin Johnson Dover & Stewart. Ickes’ “lobbying clients have included a nursing home association, the insurance company Equitas, the Service Employees International Union and a subsidiary of Verizon communications.”

“Perhaps Ickes’ largest-scale project is Catalist, a private company born out of his open distrust in the ability of Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean to build a voter database to rival that of the Republicans. Ickes is president of the company. ...

“Catalist had 19 clients last electoral cycle, many of them union-backed political operations and advocacy groups, such as the Sierra Club and the AFL-CIO, Ickes said. ... Adding a bit of delicacy to his position, Catalist is in talks with the Clinton campaign as well as rival Democratic primary campaigns.”

Data Warehouse (set up in the White House with taxpayer’s money)

CATALIST “(formerly known as Data Warehouse, LLC) offers your progressive organization low-cost, subscription-based access to a unique, comprehensive database of voting-age Americans. Combining standard demographic and high-quality political information with commercial data will allow you to get your message, ideas and requests to either large groups or targeted individuals with unprecedented precision and effectiveness. We also offer the software tools and in-house expertise your organization will need to use this data effectively.”

Has received funding from the Democracy Alliance.

Board of Managers

Patricia Bauman - President and Co-Director of the Bauman Foundation
Albert Dwoskin - President and CEO of A.J. Dwoskin & Associates
Harold Ickes - President, Catalist
Tom Novick - Executive Vice President, M+R
Michael Podhorzer - Deputy Political Director, AFL-CIO
Laura Quinn - CEO, Catalist
Vijay Ravindran - CTO, Catalist
Sheldon Seevak - Partner, Goldman Sachs (ret.)
Juan Marcos Vilar - Political Director, Service Employees International Union
Michael Warren - Chief Operating Officer & Managing Director, Stonebridge International


29 posted on 02/16/2008 2:32:32 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Sub-Driver

If the dems screw Obamma many if not most of his voters will refuse to support Mrs. Clinton. As well they should. It would be an empty victory for the Clinton crime syndicate.


30 posted on 02/16/2008 2:32:42 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: MarkT
Harold Ickes

Is the name Satan uses when he goes out at night, I'm pretty sure. I'm also pretty sure Satan is more trustworthy.

The blacks will at least sit out or maybe even re-assess who has really done what for whom since the civil rights acts.

IF the MSM reports on what really happens at the DNC. You can pretty much bet your sweet @$$ that they won't. The MSM and the Demons will conspire to spin this as Republican interference in the process (and they may be right, who knows - there are threads on here today advocating voting in the Dem primary, a suggestion I've already acted on).

31 posted on 02/16/2008 2:33:14 PM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“selected not elected” ...


32 posted on 02/16/2008 2:34:50 PM PST by ikka
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To: KevinB

Yeah, and if the Dems give Israel to the Mooselimbs the Jews would finally change to the Republican party too?
Crappola on both counts. Blacks will vote democrat even if hillary is a K.K.K. grand dragon like Byrd. And Jews will vote Dem.


33 posted on 02/16/2008 2:35:10 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Cicero
"A real mobster"

Nor does the acorn fall far from the tree; his daddy was hatchet man for FDR.

34 posted on 02/16/2008 2:35:38 PM PST by Proud_texan (Stop global whining)
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To: Sub-Driver
Tell the boss:

THE FIX IS IN

.

35 posted on 02/16/2008 2:35:50 PM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
1) FBI files and the DNC control of the IRS
are very useful for keeping recalcitrant party members in line.
36 posted on 02/16/2008 2:36:17 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Sub-Driver
Say what?




37 posted on 02/16/2008 2:36:47 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is hilarious. You could not write a better script.


38 posted on 02/16/2008 2:37:31 PM PST by jsh3180
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To: BGHater

Ya think blacks might riot if the
Cclintons steel the nomination?
I thought white woman were his big supporters.


39 posted on 02/16/2008 2:38:18 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: mewzilla

I’ve been saying this for so many months now that I’ve lost count. People greatly misunderstand the way the Demodogs choose their candidate, as I’ve said. They greatly underestimate the power of the “superdelegates” - if they even know about their existence. This week is the first week I’ve seen anybody else even acknowledge them.


40 posted on 02/16/2008 2:38:47 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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