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Limbaugh and Hannity can no longer be trusted.
ChristianPatriot.com ^ | Feb 13, 08 | Rev Bob Celeste

Posted on 02/14/2008 4:44:19 AM PST by SLB

John 15:18-25 Wednesday, February 13th, in the year of our Lord 2008 First let me say that I am not happy that I have been put in a position where I have to interrupt the series on the Gospel of John. But, what Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and other talking head pundits have done this year is not only beneath contempt and disgust but requires a Scriptural response as well. They have, in my humble opinion, proven who it is that they serve, and it is not the God of truth, but the father of all liars.

There was a time when one could turn the dial to Rush Limbaugh and/or Sean Hannity and expect to hear the truth. There was a time when listening to either got you an honest evaluation of individuals and especially candidates. That has changed, as both have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that they can and will lie to prevent a true servant of Christ from occupying the oval office.

While I am disappointed in both of these legends in their own minds, I am especially upset at and disappointed in Rush Limbaugh. I would not have believed that he would sink to the level of vicious lies coming out of his mouth, making Romney (one of the most liberal governors in the history of the most liberal state of Massachusetts) a conservative, while at the same time doing everything in his power to paint Conservative Christian Pastor Mike Huckabee as a liberal. From Sean Hannity and others, I am disappointed, but not all that surprised. But in Rush, it goes past just disappointment. It goes to having to re-evaluate my thinking about his honesty over the years. With Rush it is more than simple disappointment, it borders on disgust. I always expected more of him, and I have been proven, by him, to be wrong in my high estimation of him and his honesty.

If I were talking to Pastor Mike Huckabee this morning, I would remind him of what Jesus warned us about in John 15:

If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you.

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, ‘The servant is not greater than his Lord.’ Since they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they had kept My saying, they would keep yours also.

But all these things will they do unto you for My name's sake, because they know not Him that sent Me. If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no covering for their sin. He that hates Me hates My Father also.

If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both Me and My Father. But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, THEY HATED ME WITHOUT A CAUSE. (John 15:18-25 ACP/KJV)

Those who serve satan hate Pastor Huckabee because they hate Christ. Had they never read or even claimed to read the word of God, they would be blameless, but since they claim to be pro-life Christian conservatives who have read the word of God, their sin lies at their door and within their hearts.

But, I would continue and remind Pastor Huckabee of this passage as well:

And He (God) said, I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and, lo, Sarah thy wife shall have a son.

And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which was behind him. Now Abraham (age 99) and Sarah (age 89) were old and well stricken in age; and it ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women. Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, “After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?”

And the LORD said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, ‘Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old?’

Is any thing too hard for the LORD?

At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son! (Genesis 18:10-14 ACP/KJV)

Then I would ask Pastor Mike; “Reverend Mike, which do you think it would be harder for God to do, make you President or cause an 89 year old woman to not only give birth to a perfectly happy, healthy baby boy, but breast feed him and cause her to live till he was 37 years old?”

To all of you who are getting a bit disappointed and down at the mouth, let me remind you of how God likes to fight political wars.

Then Jerubbaal, who is Gideon, and all the people that were with him, rose up early, and pitched beside the well of Harod: so that the host of the Midianites were on the north side of them, by the hill of Moreh, in the valley. And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people that are with thee are too many for Me to give the Midianites into their hands, lest Israel vaunt themselves against Me, saying, “Mine own hand hath saved me.” Now therefore go to, proclaim in the ears of the people, saying, “Whosoever is fearful and afraid, let him return and depart early from mount Gilead.”

And there returned of the people twenty and two thousand; and there remained ten thousand. And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people are yet too many; bring them down unto the water, and I will try them for thee there: and it shall be, that of whom I say unto thee, This shall go with thee, the same shall go with thee; and of whomsoever I say unto thee, This shall not go with thee, the same shall not go.

So he(Gideon) brought down the people unto the water: and the LORD said unto Gideon, Every one that lappeth of the water with his tongue, as a dog lappeth, him shalt thou set by himself; likewise every one that boweth down upon his knees to drink. And the number of them that lapped, putting their hand to their mouth, were three hundred men: but all the rest of the people bowed down upon their knees to drink water. And the LORD said unto Gideon, By the three hundred men that lapped will I save you, and deliver the Midianites into thine hand: and let all the other people go every man unto his place.

And he(Gideon) divided the three hundred men into three companies, and he put a trumpet in every man's hand, with pitchers, and lamps within the pitchers. And he said unto them, “Look on me, and do likewise: and, behold, when I come to the outside of the camp, it shall be that, as I do, so shall ye do. When I blow with a trumpet, I and all that are with me, then blow ye the trumpets also on every side of all the camp, and say, The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.”

So Gideon, and the hundred men that were with him, came unto the outside of the camp in the beginning of the middle watch; and they had but newly set the watch: and they blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers that were in their hands. And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, “The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.”

And they stood every man in his place round about the camp: and all the host ran, and cried, and fled. And the three hundred blew the trumpets, and the LORD set every man's sword against his fellow, even throughout all the host: and the host fled to Bethshittah in Zererath, and to the border of Abelmeholah, unto Tabbath. (Judges 7:1-7 and 16-22 ACP/KJV)

Mike, If I’m right, you still have too many working for you and not enough against you for God to deliver the presidency into your hands. You still have to many Bob Celestes and not enough Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys. For I do still believe that God is going to cause this election in November to be between you, a servant of the most High God and whichever of the two servants of satan that the democrats choose to run against you. I believe that this fight between you and McCain is nothing more than a warm up for the big fight of good against pure evil in November.

The Lord be with you my brother and may He give courage and strength to the men around you, let they, you, and I obey the command of the Lord in Job 40:7a. “Gird up thy loins now like a man”

And now, God willing I can get back to the Gospel of John.

And Lord, please let it be with those who attack our brother Mike as they try to make it be to our brother Mike. In the name of the Lord Christ Jesus I pray. Amen.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2008; apostasy; dominionism; election; hannity; huckabee; rush; socialgospel; talkradio
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To: driftdiver
By getting conservatives to fight amongst ourselves they will destroy our ability to have an impact on the coming election.

And Rush and Hannity didn't spread any discord themselves?

What I find ironic is that their strategy blew up in their faces.

201 posted on 02/14/2008 6:32:48 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dixie Yooper

No it’s not. Wait til the primaries are over and see where the Dems stand. They won’t need to move so far to the left to appease their moonbat supporters. They will move more to the center.

Secondly, I will not vote to put another RINO in office. We will never have a conservative Republican party if we do so.


202 posted on 02/14/2008 6:33:13 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: SLB

This is silly I will vote the way I want to vote not because of Rush or anyone..I will not vote for Mike Huckabee..I do not like anyone running in this race the only one I ever did like and trust to be my next president is Duncan Hunter..I listen to Rush when I can and I will listen to him again when I can..I do not let anyone tell me who are what to vote for..Rush is a good conservative man and he is very intelligent..As for anyone to get mad at it should be Ann Coulter..Telling good conservatives to vote for Hillary Clinton..People run your own lives donot depend on anyone to tell you who to vote for..I admire and respect Rush and until he gives me good reason not to I will continue to admire him..


203 posted on 02/14/2008 6:35:44 AM PST by PLD
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To: Dane

What strategy was that?


204 posted on 02/14/2008 6:38:55 AM PST by listenhillary (They should have hung the first person that said "there ought to be a law...")
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To: imahawk
LOL om

Buddhism, anyone ?

205 posted on 02/14/2008 6:39:06 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: WildcatClan; Titan Magroyne
I just have an extreme dislike for phobe or phobia as suffix.

So, you're like a phobe-phobe? What a concept!


206 posted on 02/14/2008 6:39:48 AM PST by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Jubal Harshaw (Robert A. Heinlein))
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To: SLB
I think God abhors liars, and by portraying himself as a "conservative," that makes "pastor" Huckabee a liar.

And THIS pastor is also bearing false witness, because on numerous occasions, Rush especially said, and I quote, "NONE of the candidates out there is a conservative." He never, ever said Romney was a conservative. He said that McCain and Huck were liberals. To say anything else, is itself bearing false witness.

I suggest the pastor repent.

207 posted on 02/14/2008 6:40:26 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: SLB
Pastor Bob, please get your voting machine off of my Lord’s cross. I would say that you are Pharisaical but since politics seems to be your true religion perhaps your more like the Sadducee's or the Herodians.
208 posted on 02/14/2008 6:45:08 AM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Sloth
My Bible says that liars, thieves and extortioners will not inherit the kingdom of God (I Cor. 6:10, Rev. 21:8). Huckabee does all these, and gives hearty approval to criminal aliens (Rom 1:32).

See my post #117. The later, Rev Emanuel Cleaver was probably the most corrupt mayor of Kansas City since the old Pendergast days!

Mark

209 posted on 02/14/2008 6:45:39 AM PST by MarkL
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To: Broker

Why do you think Rush should be a leader of anything ? Why do you default on your own responsibility to process information and think for yourself ?

You are looking for a leader to tell you what to do. I say that’s what’s wrong in this country - too many people are looking for a leader instead of thinking for themselves.

It wasn’t Rush’s responsibility to do your thinking for you and tell you for whom to vote. All he was doing is giving listeners the information from a conservative point of view.

He said very explicitly that he won’t endorse anyone because then people will try to make him “responsible” for every position that candidate takes. It seems like people such as yourself are now trying to make him “responsible” for certain candidates losing.

Stand on your own feet and think for yourself. Rush and others would expect you to do no less.


210 posted on 02/14/2008 6:47:09 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: kindred

Wow. You’re right on target there. He even fought against the Conservatives in the SBC...on record.


211 posted on 02/14/2008 6:49:20 AM PST by bperiwinkle7 ( In the beginning was the WORD................)
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To: Crawdad

Free ? I doubt it. I believe those are called commercials for which the EIB network makes “obscene profits”.


212 posted on 02/14/2008 6:49:57 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: SLB
They paint Huckabee as a liberal using Huckabee's record, because Huckabee is a libera.

Pastor Bob calls them liars, but ignores the lies that Huckabee has told about his record and repeated even when confronted on them.

Pastor Bob appears to make the same mistake many other people of faith are making regarding Huckabee. Huckabee claims to be a man of faith, and says a number of things they want to hear, and then they take it on faith that he represents what they want him to represent. They don't look at his record, or they work extra hard to explain his record away.

Huckabee's approach to issues has been more liberal, big government intervention. Now that he's running for President he's doing a lot of pandering and trying to make himself look far more conservative than his record indicates.

He is not the strongly conservative, righteous, man that people want him to be. Quoting scripture, ignoring his record, and calling others liars doesn't change that.

It only makes the person doing so less righteous.

213 posted on 02/14/2008 6:52:27 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: SLB

Huckabee is a modern medicine show salesman.


214 posted on 02/14/2008 6:53:04 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: SLB

Pastor Bob would make a great Imam.


215 posted on 02/14/2008 6:54:01 AM PST by DOGEY
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To: Just mythoughts
Interesting.

Huckabee is a big government Republican (i.e., an anti-federalist) and Rev. Bob is ticked off at Rush for saying so?

But, then of course, Rush isn't a member of Bob and Mike's "Baptist preachers club" either...

216 posted on 02/14/2008 6:55:00 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Birds of feather flock together.)
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To: SLB

Pastor Bob doesn’t sound very CHRISTIAN.....he sounds like a NUT. Hey Bob, still with saving souls, OK?


217 posted on 02/14/2008 6:55:16 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SLB

The babble of a Theocrat. They want to rule like the “pick any religious group that rules a country” and ignore the Constitution.


218 posted on 02/14/2008 6:56:00 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: DOGEY

Trying to stir up the pews is he not.

I suggest that the good pastor look to the failed big government policies of Huckabee and not to his religion. The leftward lurch of big government evangelicals continues.

Am I the only social, economic, national security conservative left and do the Huckabiites want to redefine conservativsm to include only social conservtives, or is it a finer distinction of only Protestant Christians?


219 posted on 02/14/2008 7:00:00 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Big Government Evangelicals.....leading conservatives to Landslide 2012)
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To: SLB
I’v never trusted Rush or Sean to make my political decisions. I do depend on Rush to entertain me. I seldom listen to Sean.

If they wern’t in it for the money, they wouldn’t be in the business.

220 posted on 02/14/2008 7:00:54 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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